Re: The family of Martha WHITTINGTON, wife of Nathaniel HODGES (son of Joshua HODGES Sr RS and gson of Frances HODGES of NC) Dear careful, methodical, grass-roots Bulloch, Effingham and Screven Cos GA (BES) researchers, I've been looking over the messages which came along when I was either out of town or having e-mail server problems, and I will try to catch up with some of the items for which I might render some aid, particularly those concerning questions about material from my own BES messages. Some of those questions may address matters of sources (and rightfully so). Because the WHITTINGTON issue involves folks outside of BES, I must refer to secondary sources. Looking at the data which Ronald R. MCCLENDON put together at his excellent WHITTINGTON website (a list of descendants -- address in forwarded message from January below -- please refer to that website for more complete information): Sixth generation Edward WHITTINGTON b c 1726 m c 1747 possibly in Albermarle Parish, Surry Co VA m Penalope _____, their children, the seventh generation: Jane WHITTINGTON b 26 Jun 1747 Albemarle Parish, Surry Co VA Bartholom WHITTINGTON christened 30 Dec 1750 Albemarle Parish, Surry Co VA Penalope WHITTINGTON b 21 Apr 1754 Albemarle Parish, Surry Co VA Burrell (Burwell) Green WHITTINGTON Sr RS b 20 Mar 1757 Albemarle Parish, Surry Co VA, we see that Edward and Penalope had at least four children b 1747-1757, and would therefore not likely have been the parents of Martha WHITTINGTON HODGES b 1784 m 1801. That Martha named one of her sons Burrel Green HODGES b 1816 implies that she was likely closely related to Burrel Green WHITTINGTON, who, unlike Edward and Penalope, was known to have been in southeast GA from at least 1799-1827. I believe that Jay K. GRIFFIN's belief is right, and that that close relationship is that of daughter and father, but I do not have proof that such is the case. Incidentally, one scheme adds Grief WHITTINGTON b c 1762 to the list of children and has Cornelius WHITTINGTON (Grief's father-in law) as a second cousin. As an aside, at first glance, these WHITTINGTON schemes may be simple compared to MIZELL theories. In 1801, Ann _____ might have been the wife of Sr or Jr. As to the ancestry of the RS himself, I must defer to Ronald R. MCCLENDON and other researchers of the early WHITTINGTONs -- I have very few resources for VA research. There are, as I indicated, different schemes for the relationships of the (to me) surprising numbers of colonial and revolutionary era WHITTINGTONs -- there certainly seems to be some controversy as to the fate of my evident ancestor, Burrell Green WHITTINGTON Sr RS. Two Burrel WHITTINGTONs? For some researchers, this gentleman b 15 Feb 1750 d 28 Mar 1790 Charleston SC, leaving a widow, Martha WISE m 21Jan 1771 d 1825 Charleston SC! His presence in our area through at least 1827 must have been downright eerie! Joking aside, I furnished copies of my WHITTINGTON messages to some WHITTINGTON researchers, and posted an update of Part II to genforum (giving three decades of data for the RS and his family in our general area -- for which I can cite sources), and thereby seemed to have wandered into a controversy between those who buried him in SC and those who are descended from his children who migrated from GA to MS. I have never been presented with any primary records (transcribed or abstracted) which show that the RS d 1790 SC. I must stick with collecting southeast GA data (since I generally can get hold of the sources or their abstracts) and leave the VA, SC and MS data and its interpretation to others. As always, corrections and additions, as well as questions, are welcome -- we all want to get it right, and we all want to have the sources (meaning primarily the primary records that we can check and draw our own conclusions). May God Bless You and Your Families, John Robert (Bob) PEAVY Post Office Box 1519 Rincon GA 31326-1519 Note: I believe that some of my puzzles with the WHITTINGTONs stems from not doing research directly for the records which are outside of southeast GA -- collecting, but not checking, data from others (for which the sources are not cited, or are not available to me) will not make me a reliable researcher for outside of southeast GA. Here is a pointed quote from a recent newsletter: "Everybody knows that if something seems too good to be true, it probably is, but the Internet appears to be an exception. There is, in fact, an enormous amount of information that's free for the taking, or almost so, in cyberspace. So what's the problem? The problem is that even the Internet can't get around common sense. Common sense tells us there is no substitute for careful, methodical, grass-roots research, the kind any genealogist has to do to construct an accurate family history. Information on the Internet may be a pointer to truth, but rarely is it proof. In other words, the Internet is not a source of information; the information originated someplace else. You still need to go behind the Internet to verify the information. You still need to consult the source." Such 'collecting' is not researching. --------------------- Forwarded ---------------------- From: Bob (John Robert) Peavy 01/08/99 Subject: [GASCREVE-L] WHITTINGTON Bulloch Co GA Part I of III Dear Deborah, John and Melinda, In a letter of 13 Jul 1991, Jay K. GRIFFIN of Fayetteville GA stated that he was a descendant of Burrell Green WHITTINGTON Sr RS b 26 Jan 1757 Albemarle Parrish VA (son of Edward WHITTINGTON & Penelope _____, as shown in Ronald R. MCCLENDON's WHITTINGTON website at the sixth and seventh generations http://www.highfiber.com/~rmcclend/Whit.html) & Ann _____ through their son Burrell Green WHITTINGTON Jr and his wife Tishey LOVE (the latter couple m 1805 Tattnall Co GA). The proof of Revolutionary War service was found in Return of Wounded North Carolina Militia POWs -- Exum's Regiment as a private, prisoner 16 & 18 August 1780, wounded(?) at Camden. The RS moved to GA shortly after the close of the war. Jay K. GRIFFIN believed that Martha, daughter of Burrell Green WHITTINGTON Sr & Ann _____, was the Martha WHITTINGTON that m 1801 m Nathaniel HODGES. Nathaniel HODGES b 17 Jun 1777 d 25 Aug 1858 & Martha WHITTINGTON b 15 Nov 1784 d 9 Aug 1827 had twelve children, among whom were Ann C. HODGES b 27 Oct 1802 and Burrell Green HODGES b 6 May 1816. Their last two children, twin sons b c 1825, were named after three Methodist ministers who, in the early 1820s, served Union Methodist Church where Nathaniel and Martha are buried. Their daughter, Asenith T. HODGES BOYKIN b 15 Feb 1814 m 1836 Screven Co GA d 1863 Screven Co GA, was my gggmother; Asenith's eldest child was Paul Green BOYKIN b 24 Jul 1837 Screven Co GA (a POW in IL in 1865), the only other early BOYKIN associated with Bulloch Co GA -- he m2 Mary Ann WILLIAMS b 1838 m 1875 d 1884 and the couple is buried at Macedonia Missionary Baptist Church with several other WILLIAMS. I cannot discern if there is more than one Burrel WHITTINGTON family involved in your queries -- I had thought that the name would be unique, so that all the references would be for the same individual (or his son). I am dividing this message into three parts, because of the difficulty of sending a long message to aol users (effects the infamous mime files); Part II contains some WHTTINGTON data from my general area of research (predominantly Bulloch, Effingham and Screven Cos GA), Part III has the background queries from Genforum. ... cc: Note to Ronald R. MCCLENDON: The book on my ROBBINS ancestry (Robbins and Related Families of the South 237pp 1980) indicates that Col Nathaniel LITTLETON & Anna SOUTHEY had a daughter Esther LITTLETON b 1646 d < 1709 m 9 Jan 1662 m Col John ROBINS of VA's Eastern Shore b 5 Jul 1636 d 18 May 1709 -- among their twelve children was Littleton ROBINS d 1719. Your descendancy chart indicates that Esther/Hester b c 1651 m 1683 as the second wife of second generation William WHITTINGTON II b 1649/1650.