This one I would say is a female because of the Mae middle name. The correct spelling for her first name should have been Frances. My GRANDFATHER was Francis Milton Hodges spelled as seen here. My father-in-law was Cleo Francis Tash again spelled as seen here. My ggggrandmother was Elizabeth Frances Markham Hodges. You have to take into account many misspellings when doing genealogical research. It is a common problem. It makes things difficult some times. I'm sure you have run into this yourself in your research. The problem admittedly is worse when it comes to surnames. My fourth greatgrandfather's last name was Hodges. We have seen it spelled Hoggs, Hoddges, Hoddgges, and Hodges. Sorry, I didn't mean to ramble on here. Don't know what else I can say on the spelling of Francis and Frances. Lowell Christine Hodges wrote: > > frances, then what do we think about > Francis Mae Hodges (b) or (G) > maybe it is a boy we were thinka girl??? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: frances l Etheredge <franceseth@juno.com> > To: <HODGES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [HODGES-L] New Hodges > > > Coy: A good way to remember is: I for a guy and E for a she applies to > > Francis (male) and Frances (female) and other similar names. > > Separate gives lots of trouble to some people. "e" on the outside > > two > > vowels amd two "a"s for the two inside vowels. Frances E > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > > > > > ==== HODGES Mailing List ==== > > Searchable Archives at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > Archives help at: http://www.shelby.net/shelby/jr/robertsn/rwsearch.htm > > New threaded Archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ==== HODGES Mailing List ==== > Please remember that it is okay to post any information on any Hodge/Hodges/Hedge to the list. The more info we post, the more likely that we will find connections.

Christine Hodges wrote: > > frances, then what do we think about > Francis Mae Hodges (b) or (G) > maybe it is a boy we were thinka girl??? Like everything else, especially in genealogy, there are exceptions to every "so-called" rule. <g> Flavia Hodges, San Pablo, CA

frances, then what do we think about Francis Mae Hodges (b) or (G) maybe it is a boy we were thinka girl??? ----- Original Message ----- From: frances l Etheredge <franceseth@juno.com> To: <HODGES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [HODGES-L] New Hodges > Coy: A good way to remember is: I for a guy and E for a she applies to > Francis (male) and Frances (female) and other similar names. > Separate gives lots of trouble to some people. "e" on the outside > two > vowels amd two "a"s for the two inside vowels. Frances E > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > > ==== HODGES Mailing List ==== > Searchable Archives at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Archives help at: http://www.shelby.net/shelby/jr/robertsn/rwsearch.htm > New threaded Archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >

HI Does any one possibley have the census for 1870 of FAYETTE COUNTY KY l'm looking for JOHN O HODGES JR. who is listed on page 215 other info says 2 W. Lexington if some might have this could you possibley tell me who is listed as his wife and does it list any children and who is living in the house with them thank you ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ also i'm in need of 1850 Harrison county ky. Hodges John O. ( page 092) district 1 I know this is the year they started listed names of wifes and children, I desperatley need the wife's name and the children listed in this family to see if we have the right John O Hodges, , the places of birth should be there too I hope!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My ggg grandfather had busness i ky and tenn lumbering company's these were mentioned in the will of John O Hodges Jr's wife and there 1 son married a Lucinda Crabtree born Ky.altho they divorced later maybe there in Ky or else Tenn as their one dau. was born in Tenn. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ any help on these would be a great blessing and I can't give much but anything you might need from this are in Crawford or Erie co. I am close to those court houses, and would gladely look for you in exchange, Thank You. chodges@erie.net www.erie.net/~chodges/hodgeshome.html

My Francis (male) had it listed both ways and it seemed to be interchangible. You are correct that currently it is Francis for male. Didn't mean to start a dialog but it was really a fingercheck on my part. I guess it's good to make mistakes now and then, since the list was getting quiet and this seemed to wake it up. Ken At 03:06 PM 07/25/1999 -0400, you wrote: >That is correct. The confusion arises when you find the names misspelled >in the records you are researching and I have seen it many times. You >are left wondering if it is a male or female whos record you are looking >at. Especially in birth records. > >Lowell > > >Diana Davis wrote: >> >> Frances,Female; Francis, Male...I think. >> >> Diana ddavis@logicsouth.com >> Updated 7/11/99: Gen. Site: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/ >> Phillip Kime Desc, website: http://www.my-ged.com/kime >> Updated 7/11/99 > >

Hi to the list - I am trying to find parents of J.B. Hodges, born ca. 1830 probably in SC. I have seen him listed on census' as J. B., as well as John Bedford, and I believe the listing for a Bradford Hodges on the 1900 census is the same person. Has anyone run across this name? First wife I know was named Martha Watkins, and if Bradford is the same person, the second wife was named Alice. Any info appreciated. Don Williams

I have no further information on the following Wm Hodges. connie THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS Volume 1 Part 1 CHAPTER IV GRANTS SOUTH OF GREEN RIVER (1797-1866) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 336 Grantee: Hodges, Wm Acres: 200 Book: 18 Page: 334 Date Survey: 11-18-1807 County: Logan Watercourse: Muddy R

Llew, so nice seeing your note on the Hodges page. We believe my GGGGrandfather Thomas came to America around the mid 1770's along with his brothers John, David and Joseph. They came from Wales and settled in Virginia before migrating into North Carolina. We are also uncertain as to his brothers and where they went. Thomas's parents never came into the USA dieing in Wales. As far as we know the boys never went home to stay. I would certainly like to know about Thomas's brothers and parents but I don't know how to begin. Do you have any Ideas? Have you traced your family back to Wales? By the way my name now is Hodge as my fathers generation dropped the S from their name. We have traced the family back and know definitely the name was Hodges. It was really nice to see your posting and if you would care to answer I would like to talk farther. Harold Hodge

Frances,Female; Francis, Male...I think. Diana ddavis@logicsouth.com Updated 7/11/99: Gen. Site: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/ Phillip Kime Desc, website: http://www.my-ged.com/kime Updated 7/11/99

As a general rule most Francis are men and most Frances are women. Notice I said as a general rule, there are always exceptions to the rules. My grandmother was FRANCIS. I also have other women with the "i" and men with the "e" spelling in my database.

That is correct. The confusion arises when you find the names misspelled in the records you are researching and I have seen it many times. You are left wondering if it is a male or female whos record you are looking at. Especially in birth records. Lowell Diana Davis wrote: > > Frances,Female; Francis, Male...I think. > > Diana ddavis@logicsouth.com > Updated 7/11/99: Gen. Site: http://www.my-ged.com/davis/ > Phillip Kime Desc, website: http://www.my-ged.com/kime > Updated 7/11/99

Dear Coy in out family line both the boys and the girls are use this spelling depending on how the parents spelled , and if sometimes the fathers name was Frances they just used that for the dau as well. real confusing as we were lookin for a Frances ( thought boy) for years and when it was finalyy didcovered it was our Frances Mae Hodges , but she had went by here middle name so we had hadher all along. happy hunting Christy ----- Original Message ----- From: Coy B Hodge Sr <chodge@NorthState.Net> To: <HODGES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [HODGES-L] New Hodges > Hi Sharon, long time since we wrote each other. > > Someone on the list correct me if I am incorrect please. > > Frances - Male > Francis - Female > > Coy Hodge > Thomasville, NC > > > > At 12:49 PM 7/25/99 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 07/25/1999 3:05:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > >khodge@gdi.net writes: > > > ><< My immigrant ancestor is Frances Hodge, b. 1745 in Co. Antrim, > > Ireland and entered the US in 1772. I have a lot of data on him after this > > time but have been unable to find anything in Ireland. >> > > > >Hi Ken -- Do you know if any of your Frances' relatives migrated into the > >Pembrokeshire, Wales area? The name Frances seems to run through generations > >in my line, though I think it's more a woman's name. Sharon > > > > >

thought this might be of intrest to the Hodges list as well. Christy ----- Original Message ----- From: Patsy H Weikart <qmgen@juno.com> To: <WVBRAXTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 12:35 PM Subject: [WVBRAXTO-L] Fw: Rev. War Tombstones > This information may be helpful : > > For those interested in obtaining a new gravestone marker / footmarker > for a > Rev. War soldier (or any veteran of any war who had an honorable > discharge) > the US Gov't will provide one FREE of charge. One must call their local > U.S. > Gov't. Dep't. of Veterans Affairs & request form - VA 30-1330. > Instructions > are on this form. Upon approval they will send you the marker or a > party > designated by you -- such as a local funeral director. You are > responsible > for proper footings which are necessary for gravestone placement. The > cost > for the one we did was $125.00. > > My husband & I did this for his ggg grandfather Lt. John Shreve who > served in > the Rev. War. His old stone in Stark Co., OH was cracked & difficult to > read. We had the new stone set just above the old one. > > A SAR or DAR emblem can be placed on the new marker. The local SAR > Chapter & > the American Legion did a rededication service at the cemetery, which was > > VERY IMPRESSIVE. This was done in Stark Co., OH & the John Stark Chapt. > of > SAR arranged the program. For those of you who are members of the SAR > see > the cover of the SAR Magazine & page 5 of the Winter 1998 Vol. MCII # 3 > for > a photo of the above mentioned stone and an article on Honoring Our > Patriot > Ancestor. >

Other way around. Framcis = male Frances = Female Lowell Coy B Hodge Sr wrote: > > Hi Sharon, long time since we wrote each other. > > Someone on the list correct me if I am incorrect please. > > Frances - Male > Francis - Female > > Coy Hodge > Thomasville, NC > > At 12:49 PM 7/25/99 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 07/25/1999 3:05:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > >khodge@gdi.net writes: > > > ><< My immigrant ancestor is Frances Hodge, b. 1745 in Co. Antrim, > > Ireland and entered the US in 1772. I have a lot of data on him after this > > time but have been unable to find anything in Ireland. >> > > > >Hi Ken -- Do you know if any of your Frances' relatives migrated into the > >Pembrokeshire, Wales area? The name Frances seems to run through generations > >in my line, though I think it's more a woman's name. Sharon > > > >

Hi Sharon, long time since we wrote each other. Someone on the list correct me if I am incorrect please. Frances - Male Francis - Female Coy Hodge Thomasville, NC At 12:49 PM 7/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 07/25/1999 3:05:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, >khodge@gdi.net writes: > ><< My immigrant ancestor is Frances Hodge, b. 1745 in Co. Antrim, > Ireland and entered the US in 1772. I have a lot of data on him after this > time but have been unable to find anything in Ireland. >> > >Hi Ken -- Do you know if any of your Frances' relatives migrated into the >Pembrokeshire, Wales area? The name Frances seems to run through generations >in my line, though I think it's more a woman's name. Sharon > >

Hi Harold - my Hodge is MICHAEL J. HODGE who was born in either Boston or Arlington MA, I would guess around 1860. Michael married Annie B. McGovern, also from the Boston area. They had twins Rose and Anna, daughter Veronica ("Vonnie"), and my grandmother Gertrude. Gertrude married Charles Sibbald Toomy in Malden MA, and the rest is history........For some reason, Michael and Annie spent some time in Sharpsburg PA which is where Gertrude was born, and then returned to the Boston area. They are a VERY elusive bunch..I have no other info on them. Could there be a connection???? Thanks----Susan sr1244@aol.com

Coy B Hodge Sr wrote: > > Hi Sharon, long time since we wrote each other. > > Someone on the list correct me if I am incorrect please. > > Frances - Male > Francis - Female > > Coy Hodge > Thomasville, NC Coy, it's the other way - "is" is male as someone once told me as in "his" and "es" is female as in "hers" - the last is a stretch, but that was the way is was explained for remembering; however, I've known some who did not hold true to this pattern. Flavia Hodges, San Pablo, CA

Coy: A good way to remember is: I for a guy and E for a she applies to Francis (male) and Frances (female) and other similar names. Separate gives lots of trouble to some people. "e" on the outside two vowels amd two "a"s for the two inside vowels. Frances E ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

In a message dated 07/25/1999 3:05:18 AM US Mountain Standard Time, khodge@gdi.net writes: << My immigrant ancestor is Frances Hodge, b. 1745 in Co. Antrim, Ireland and entered the US in 1772. I have a lot of data on him after this time but have been unable to find anything in Ireland. >> Hi Ken -- Do you know if any of your Frances' relatives migrated into the Pembrokeshire, Wales area? The name Frances seems to run through generations in my line, though I think it's more a woman's name. Sharon

Hi Llew, I'm the one Ken mentioned looking for my HODGE family from Swansea, Glamorgan, and have since traced them back to the early/mid-1700s in Pembrokeshire. Can't get back farther than that right now, though I've found someone in Pembrokeshire that is researching the HODGE line also, and he's sent me "pieces of the jigsaw." Also recently found a "cousin" of my line in England. I had lots of luck getting a start on my family from the GLAMORGAN mail list (GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com) -- people were able to check census info, etc for me, which is how I got my family back to Pembrokeshire. I think Monmouthshire also has a mail list, and this could prove invaluable to you. Also, the LDS have microfilmed large numbers of church records in the 1700/1800s which I've successfully used to track my HODGE line, as well as several other lines. Those might also help. Good luck! Sharon