Hi: On the front page of Rootsweb.com is a link to our Presidents' ancestors. The name Hinds,Haine,Hines is found in President Harding's tree in NJ and the name Hines (including a Confederate soldier from TN) is found in Pres. Clinton's line.. They are in Ahnentafel form which means the father of any number is double that number. And one more for the mother. So, the parents of #3 are 6. & 7 The parents of 6. are 12 & 13. You may be able to go straight to the Presidential search at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/presidents/ otherwise it is: http://www.rootsweb.com/ scroll down to "Famous and Infamous" Are these two Famous or Infamous. Hmmmm. Regards, Nan [email protected] ----------------------------------------------------------