Nan mentioned the Hinds/Hines vertical file in the North Carolina Archives in her last post. I have been through this file and found only one thing new; i. e., a reference to a book entitled John William Hines, born c. 1600 in Londonderry, Ireland, His Descendants, principally of North Carolina and Virginia and their associated families by William N. Hurley. This book can be ordered from Heritage Books, Inc., 1540-E Pointer Ridge Pl, Suite 301, Bowie, MD 20716 for $22.00 plus $3.00 shipping and handling. I copied a few pages for my own use but cannot post them to the list because the book is copyrighted. However, I can state that John William Hines was reportedly born in or near Londonderry, Ireland about 1600. He married Sarah Alexander, daughter of Richard Alexander, in Londonderry and had five children, all born in Ireland. Three of his sons, William, Sr. John William, Jr. and Zachariah, reportedly came to Jamestown, Virginia on the Anne Bolyn in 1650. The book deals with the genealogy of this family. Barbara

Hi: The NC Archives now has a search service online at: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/archives/arch/FindingAids/findaids.h tm I'm pasting some abstracts below of papers that mention Hinds for those who may be visiting the archives in the future. If some of you have visited the archives and have copies of any of these records below - we invite you to share their contents with us. They would be a great addition to our list archives even if they don't help anyone on the list today - they may in the future. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com =========================================== Account Books that contain the name Hinds Hinds and Kincy Title: Hinds and Kincy Years: 1831-1833, 1893-1901 Call Number: AB.69 Location: 3B MARS Id: 2969 (Group) Genres / Forms: Ledgers, Journals, Financial Records Quantity: 2 Volume(s) Scope / Contents: General merchandise. Volumes also contain: G. W. Harrison, [Caer Creek], Craven Co. Blacksmith Ledger and journal. Inventory and accounts. Index Terms: Geographic Names: Jones County, Craven County, Trent Bridge (Pollocksville), Pollocksville Subjects:Blacksmiths,Merchants,Stores, Mercantile,Consumer Goods, Corporate Names: Hinds and Kincy, G. W. Harrison Personal Names: Hinds, _____,, Kincy, _____,,Harrison, G. W. ============================================= | Title [Hinds and Hines families] Subject(s) Hines family. Series Genealogy vertical file Holdings Location Genealogy -- Vertical File Owning Library STATELIBNC Item Count 1 Item Status Not Charged ===================================== Private Collections that contain the name of Hinds Select Description J. Burch Blaylock Collection [842] [ Container from SC] Henry A. Chambers (1841-1925) Papers [910] [ Container from SC] William Long (1801-1876) Papers [2635] [ Container from SC] Mrs. Louis Polk Sherman Collection [1859] [ Container from SC] ===================================== Revolutionary War Records Select Description (The references refer to the location of these records) Hinds, Andrew [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: 54 176; III 101 1; III 50 3 Hinds, Danl. [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: W-2 37 Hinds, John [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: A 215; A 224; I 42 2; I 42 4; I 49 4 Hinds, John (Capt.) [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: A 224 Hinds, Jos. [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: I 39 2; I 42 4 Hinds, Joseph [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: A 191; A 224; B 199 Hinds, Joshua [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: III 49 4 Hinds, Lewis [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: 19 136; 30 34; III 7 1 Hinds, Richard [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: 1-6 245 Hinds, Robt. [ Container from Rev. Army Account A - J] References: W-2 37

Nan, It also appears that John C. Hinds bought land in Madison County, Arkansas in 1882. At least the issue date of the title transfer was 12/16/1882. I don't know really how to read the land patent details, but.... Teresa -------Original Message------- From: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, December 21, 2003 16:50:34 To: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HINDS] Hinds of Hindsville, Arkansas Teresa wrote: >I don't know much about the Hinds family only that my 2nd great aunt, Sarah Frances Ross, married John C. Hinds in abt 1882 in Arkansas. < Teresa: Do you have their place of marriage in AR? Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Nan, I don't know for sure the place of marriage in Arkansas, but if I were to suppose, I would suppose that they were married in Prairie, Madison County, Arkansas. Both the Ross family and the Hinds family were living there in the 1880 census about 20 houses or so apart. But that's just supposition. I wish I could find someone that connects that might have documentation as such, but..... Thanks, Teresa Ross-Hild -------Original Message------- From: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, December 21, 2003 16:50:34 To: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HINDS] Hinds of Hindsville, Arkansas Teresa wrote: >I don't know much about the Hinds family only that my 2nd great aunt, Sarah Frances Ross, married John C. Hinds in abt 1882 in Arkansas. < Teresa: Do you have their place of marriage in AR? Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Teresa wrote: >I don't know much about the Hinds family only that my 2nd great aunt, Sarah Frances Ross, married John C. Hinds in abt 1882 in Arkansas. < Teresa: Do you have their place of marriage in AR? Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

Hi, I'm in the process of transcribing a book titled: City and County Federation of Women's Clubs Yearbook 1918-1920, San Francisco, California Official Directory. While doing the H's I found a few Hinds/Hindes/Hines/Hiney listed and thought I would share them just in case somebody is looking for them. The numbers are the # of the club(s) they belong to. For example, 58 is the number for San Francisco League for the Hard of Hearing. Hindes, Mrs. S. B., 2519 Broadway�58. Hinds, Miss A., Gratton School�57. Hinds, Miss Jane, Roosevelt School�57. Hines, Mrs. Gabrial, Hotel Richelieu�51. Hines, Mrs. Jas. L., 88 Plaza Drive, Berkeley�59. Hindes, Mrs. Stetson G., 2519 Broadway�11. Hiney, Mrs. Mary C., 822 Clayton St.�1 Elaine Sturdevant

Hi: I spotted the below while researching in AR. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ===================================== Found at: http://www.arkansasfreedmen.com/slaveowners.htm 1860 Slave Owners of Ft. Smith Vicinity----Sebastian County Slave Schedule (Source: United States Federal Census. Slave Schedule-Sebastian County Arkansas 1860. National Archives Publication M653 Microfilm Reel 54) Data is listed in the following order: Name of Slave Owner/Total # of Slaves/ Gender of Each Slave/Age of Slave/Color R.L. Haines / 3 slaves: -----Male / 30/ Black -----Female / 18 / Black -----Male / 3mo./ Black Menan Haines/4 slaves: -----Female/23/Black -----Female/5/Black -----Male/3/Black -----Male/8 mo./Black (Unfortunately for the African American genealogist, the names of slaves were not included in the Slave Schedules. However, this document can be useful in assisting the researcher in identifying the possible slave owners, which will take the researcher backwards in time, into the period of slavery. By learning the name of the slave owner, the researcher will be able to research tax records, wills, deeds, bills of sale and other documents pertaining to the identity of slaves. Many slaves changed their names after the Civil War ended, and they were freed. This list is placed on this page as a guide to possible surnames that may or may not be associated with their enslaved ancestors.)

Ed, I don't know much about the Hinds family only that my 2nd great aunt, Sarah Frances Ross, married John C. Hinds in abt 1882 in Arkansas. I figure my 3rd great grandfather, Angus Ross, was living with them or close by when he died as Mrs. J.C. Hinds was the informant on his will. I know that they had three children (at least I believe) James Lorenzo Hinds, Catherine, and Arvilla. Would love to connect with "cousins" and share any information I may have. If you wish, please contact me at dhild1@houston.rr.com Thanks, Teresa Ross-Hild Houston, Texas -------Original Message------- From: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 22:49:24 To: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HINDS] Hinds of Hindsville, Arkansas I would like to hear from anyone who can add to my knowledge of Hinds families who lived around Hindsville, Arkansas in the mid 1800s to 1870s. I imagine these families were responsible for the town's name. My interest is that two sisters of my great-grandmother, Minerva King Moore, were said in family legend to have married Hinds men. I did prove this to be true of one sister. Mary Jane King married Lorenzo J. Hinds in April 1860 and they are on the 1860 and 1870 censuses for Madison County, Arkansas, where Hindsville is located. Minerva had several other sisters, Margaret and Emily, who could have been the other one to marry another Hinds man, but I have nothing on that. My widowed great-great-grandmother, Margaret King, was living with daughter Mary Jane and Lorenzo J. Hinds in 1860. In 1861, Minerva King Moore delivered Margaret Unity Moore in Hindsville. Minerva and her husband, Noble Hamilton Moore, were living on the War Eagle River in Benton County at the time. Minerva probably went to Hindsville so her mother and sister could care for her and the baby. In 1972, Minerva King Moore died and family legend says that her three children were sent to live with one of the sisters who had married a Hinds. However, the oldest boy, at age 16, immediately ran off to Texas. Family legend also says that the younger two children were stuck with an aunt who was mean to them, until she died, after which the uncle Hinds took them to Texas to stay with their older brother, who had just married. Since they went to Texas in 1877, and it was later found that Mary Jane had died in 1876, we can assume that the children were staying with her and Lorenzo Hinds. Recently I learned that Margaret King had died in 1975, and is buried in the Hindsville Cemetery. Mary Jane Hinds died in 1876, and is also buried in the Hindsville Cemetery. Lorenzo Hinds is not listed in that cemetery. Several other Hinds are listed, but I don't know their relationships. I'm looking to fill in some of the gaps in this little story. Any info will be appreciated. Ed Moore Waco, Texas edmoore@grandecomNoSpamRemoveThis.net http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/o/o/Edward-H-Moore/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

I would like to hear from anyone who can add to my knowledge of Hinds families who lived around Hindsville, Arkansas in the mid 1800s to 1870s. I imagine these families were responsible for the town's name. My interest is that two sisters of my great-grandmother, Minerva King Moore, were said in family legend to have married Hinds men. I did prove this to be true of one sister. Mary Jane King married Lorenzo J. Hinds in April 1860 and they are on the 1860 and 1870 censuses for Madison County, Arkansas, where Hindsville is located. Minerva had several other sisters, Margaret and Emily, who could have been the other one to marry another Hinds man, but I have nothing on that. My widowed great-great-grandmother, Margaret King, was living with daughter Mary Jane and Lorenzo J. Hinds in 1860. In 1861, Minerva King Moore delivered Margaret Unity Moore in Hindsville. Minerva and her husband, Noble Hamilton Moore, were living on the War Eagle River in Benton County at the time. Minerva probably went to Hindsville so her mother and sister could care for her and the baby. In 1972, Minerva King Moore died and family legend says that her three children were sent to live with one of the sisters who had married a Hinds. However, the oldest boy, at age 16, immediately ran off to Texas. Family legend also says that the younger two children were stuck with an aunt who was mean to them, until she died, after which the uncle Hinds took them to Texas to stay with their older brother, who had just married. Since they went to Texas in 1877, and it was later found that Mary Jane had died in 1876, we can assume that the children were staying with her and Lorenzo Hinds. Recently I learned that Margaret King had died in 1975, and is buried in the Hindsville Cemetery. Mary Jane Hinds died in 1876, and is also buried in the Hindsville Cemetery. Lorenzo Hinds is not listed in that cemetery. Several other Hinds are listed, but I don't know their relationships. I'm looking to fill in some of the gaps in this little story. Any info will be appreciated. Ed Moore Waco, Texas edmoore@grandecomNoSpamRemoveThis.net http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/o/o/Edward-H-Moore/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EKj.2ACIB/256.1 Message Board Post: Hi. I, too, have Hinds family in that neck of the woods. Mine is John Melvin Hinds who married Rebecca Jane Wilford on 9 Jan 1879 in Pleasants County, WV. John Melvin was born 2 Feb 1844 in Marshall County, WV. Do you think that there could be a connection with your Hinds? Please let me know. Thank you.

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Greetings, In Charles E. Stickney's book, "Old Sussex County Families of the Minisink Region" reprinted 1988, he outlines the Haines family as such, pp. 43-50 " The first we find of this name in New Jersey is in the return from Shrewsbury of John Haines, elected for Deputy to the General Assembly June 2, 1680. He is also mentioned in connection with certain rights confirmed to Middletown and Shrewsbury by Gov. Carteret in 1672. This may have been another family for Haines in his Hardyston Memorial, claims that the first of these names came here in 1725. He says, "Soujthampton, L. I. was settled by men of Plymouth Colony, Mass. Gov. Winthrop in his journal says that about forty families finding them- selves in straitened circumstances left the town of Lynn with the design of settling a new plantation. They invited Rev. Abraham Pierson of Boston, to be their minister. William Alexander, Earl of Stirling held by patent from the crown, Long Island and the lands adjacent, and had appointed James Farrel his attorney to dispose of them. The Lynn colony being formed, an agreement was made with Farrel dated April 17, 1640, for eight square miles of land to be located in any part of Long Island, the consideration therefor to be fixed by Gov. Winthrop. The latter, as the Indians had not relinquished their title to the wilderness, fixed it at four bushels of Indian corn to be paid annually at Southampton on the last sday of September. Captain Daniel How carried the colonists to their tract in his vessel and the settlement began in June, 1640. They purchased from the Indians their title for 16 coats, 20 bushels of Indian corn and an agreement to defend them from then violence of the other tribes. They were mostly young men from Northampton, Buckinghamshire and Lincolnshire. The Haines were a very ancient family in English holdings and their coat of arms is still preserved there by their descendants. The majority of the new settlers being from Southampton, they gave the name to the new settlement. They organized their church before leaving Lynn, and erected their house of worship the second year of the new Southampton. Young Benjamin Haines is named on the original list of settlers. He had but recently emigrated from England and married Johanna, the daughter of John Jennings, of Southold. His son, James, born 1662, and died 1721, whose grave is in the hay ground yard at Bridgehampton. Benjamin's grandson, Stephen Haines, 1st born in 1704, removed in 1725, to Elizabethtown, where his son, Stephen Haines, 2nd, was born in 1723. Previous to his removal there, a petition to Lord Cornbury to remove restrictions upon the issuing of land warrants in 1707, was signed by John and Richard Haines, as purchasers and proprietors. Joseph Haines and Johnathan Haines, were complained of for seriously distrurbing court proceedings in the Samuel Carter case in 1700. And the same year, Johnathan Haines was concerned in a plot to rescue a prisoner that turned the whole court topsy turvey. In this last matter they were in company with the ancestors of the Ogdens and Meekers, who afterward settled in Sussex County, where some of the Haines family settled so that the force of circumstances would imply that the Haines mentioned were relatives of Benjamin and Stephen Haines. Stephen Haines, 2nd, by his patriotic efforts rendered himself very obnoxious tot eh British after the battle of Long Island in the Revolutionary War. One night when he and his wife were asleep in their bedroom on the ground floor of their dwelling, they were awakened by the tramp of horses outside. English troops guided by Tories who knew the place well, had come from New York for his apprehension. He sprang from his bed to the window, but found it guarded by a sentinel. He passed through another room to the kitchen thinking to escape that way but it was also guarded. There was a back kitchen with a rather obscure door and by that he made his way to the open air. On the west of the house was a corn field with the stalks standing. He sought to gain this hiding place, but was discovered as he was about to spring over the fence. The man rushed upon him with a bayonet crying 'Surrender or die.' He was taken prisoner and marched off barefoot and in his night clothes. He walked over three miles this way and was sent fifteen miles by water to New York, where he was imprisoned in the dreadful pen the British made of the old sugar house which stood on Nassua Street. The hardships he endured were very great, but he survived, while many died. He was captured in the Fall of the year and was not released until after the battle of Monmouth, June 1778, when the numerous capturjes by Washington made the British glad to effect an exchange of prisoners. Job Haines, Stephen'd second eldest son, was twenty years old when the war broke out. He was a private among the 'Jersey Blues' detailed to transport merchandise from Philadelphia. He was just arrived home from a toilsome trip and was asleep in his own bedroom when the house was surrounded. Some informer had notified the British of his return. His sister, Joanna, had been extremely wakeful since her father's capture, and hearing then tramp of the horsemen, sprang to her brother's door, awakened him and hurried him into a smoke closet connected to the kitchen chimney where the family meats were cured. She locked the door and took the key. Pretending to be asleep, she did not rise until the troopers poured into the house. Then there was a long time finding a light. At their order she took them through the house, opening every door but the one to the smoke closet. They showed such disappointment, and went away, cursing the Tory who had lied to them. Job's brother, next younger, "was at that time, eleven years old; but boy, as he was, he soon had a man's responsibility in care of their house and cattle. Their horses were stolen and only an ox team was left. Pickets were stationed in the vicinity of Elizabethtown to warn people of the coming of their oppressors. Whenever the warning gun was heard, it was Elias' duty to put the oxen to the sled, and with the remaining members of the family and some of their goods, to start through the back lane and reach a small retired house they owned at 'Sodon' where they could be concelaed until the invaders were gone." Elias became a merchant in New York, and had dealings with Sussex county people, many of whom he was well known. He visited the house of Robert Ogden, 3rd, and in 1800 married their daughter, Mary. His residence "stood fronting the Battery in New York, near what is now the corner of White Hall and South Streets." He lost much of his property in Florida, which the United States Governement afterwards held to be void. He died October 11, 1824, at Elizabethtown. Of the daughter before mentioned the following "incident" was told by the late Mrs. Henry T. Darrah (a neice.) Miss Joanna Haines was an only daughter in a family of four brothers, Job, Elias, Stephen, and Daniel. She grew up a beautiful girl, with clearly cut features, a fine blue eye and transparent complexion with the blush of a rose on each cheek. Being an olny daughter she was indulged in a dainty wardrobe. Many of her dresses has been specially imported from England. She wore high heeled shoes which were made to her measure in London. I have seen the relics. Her band box which fastened with a key had been brought across the ocean containing her beaver hat, trimmed with gold lace and black ostrich feathers. One day a party of Hessians drove up to the house, went into the kitchen, panty and cellars, finding edibles, they satisfied their appetites and then searched for booty to carry off. They ransacked Joanna's bureaus and taking the sheets from the bed, tied up most of the valuable articles in two large packs. She followed them from room to room begging them to spare her treasures, but they did not heed her. Just as two of the men carrying the packs went out of the door, up rode to the verandah, a fine looking British officier. She went to the front door of the piazzi and with the loquacity of a woman and the eloquence of an injured woman, told her trouble. He smiled and said, 'You shall have all your goods back if you grant me a favor. I want you to give him one kiss with your lips, and let me imprint a kiss upon your beautiful cheek.' Her modesty and maidenly nature rebelled but she cast her eye on the two huge bundles and thought of the immensity of her loss. Lifting her bluishing face to the officer's, she sealed the compact. He reprimanded the marauders in their own language and made them return the articles bidding them never to enter that house again." Elias' wife, Mary, daughter of Robert Ogden, was born July 3, 1778, at "Turkey" now New Providence in Union county. Her father came to Ogdensburg to live in 1786. Her youth was spent mostly at Ogdensburg. After her marriage she made frequent trips to her father's house with her children. After her husband's death, she came to Hamburg to reside with her son, who lived in the old Lawrence mansion. She united with the North Church of Hardyston, January 21, 1827. Her death occurred in New York City on May 5, 1852. Of earnest piety she was a most useful womna. Of the other sons of Stephen 2nd: Job, Stephen 3rd, and Daniel, we have no memoranda. Daniel , son of Elias and Mary (Odgen) Haines, was born in New York January 6, 1801. "He graduated Princeton in 1820 and studied law with Judge Thomas C. Ryerson at Newton, Was admitted as Attorney in 1823, Counsellor in 1826, and Sergeant at law in 1827, one of the latest to receive the latter distinction. He settled at Hamburg in 1824 and soon gained a lucrative practice. He married in 1827, Ann Marie Austin, daughter of Alanson Austin, of Warwick, N.Y. who died December 8, 1844. He married again in 1865, Mary Townsend, of Newark, N.J. He had belonged to the Federalist Party but espoused the cause of Gen. Jackson. He entered public life as a member of the Council (now Senate) and in 1839 and -40 took an active part inwhat was known as the Board Seal War. In doing this he opposed the Governor and majority of the Legislature, and bore the principal part of the discussion against them. In 1843 he was chosen Governor and Chancellor for the term of one year, but continued in office some months longer, until his successor was installed. The State Normal School was first proposed by him. He was Commission to assist in making the present Constitution of the State. His decisions are recorded in Green's Chancery Reports. In 1847 he was nominated for Governor and elected. In 1852 he was placed upon the bench of the Supreme Court, which position he held for fourteen successive years. The circuit included Newark and ELizabeth. In 1845 he was appointed one of the Commissioners to select a site for the State Lunatic Asylum and was a member of the first Board of Managers of that institution. In 1868 he was appointed by joint ballot of the Legislature, "to examine the State prison system of this and other states, and to report an improved plan for its government and discipline." In October, 1870, he was appointed by Gov. Randolph, one of the Commissioners to the National Reform Congress at Cincinnati. By that body he was appointed one of the committee in London, England, in 1872. In the organization of the National Reform Prison Association he was one of its incorporators and a Vice President. For many years he was one of the Board of Trustees of Princeton College. Later in life he was placed on Commissions relative to State boundaries and the municipal affairs of Jersey City and Paterson. He had three children, Alanson Haines, Thomas Ryerson Haines and a daughter who married Prof. Guyot, of Princeton College. "A son-in-law, Major Frank H. Tucker also served in the Army." (A. A. Haines -- This must have been his daughter's second husband. The army was the Union Army, one in the late Civil War.") In church matters he was quite as noted as in secular affairs. He joined North Hardyston in 8131, was made elder in 1837 and served in various useful church capacities. He died at Hamburg, January 26, 1877. His remains were borne to their last resting place by a large concourse of dfriends. Impressice addresses were delivered by Rev. Dr. Stearns, and Dr. Craven, of Newark, giving very trust tributes to the memory of the deceased. Rev. Dr. Fairchild, once his pastor at Hamburg, closed the services. Gov. Bedle issued an order that National flags on the State buildings should be displayed at half mast, and at 2 o'clock on Tuesday, the day of the funeral a salute fired at Trenton. (Here I am editting for genealogical content....) His son, Thomas Ryerson Haines, born at Hamburg, March 15, 1835, graduated at the College of New Jersey in 1857, and was admitted to the bar of New Jersey in 1860. He commenced practicing in Newark, NJ. In August 1861, he was commissioned First Lieutenant, Company K, First Regiment New Jersey Cavalry. Later Captain of Company M. On June 6, 1862, Capt. Haines was shot from his horse and killed. His body was interred in North Church cemetery near Hamburg, NJ. His (Gov. Haines) other son, Alanson Austin, was born March 18, 1830 at Hamburg, where the late Thomas Lawrence lived. He graduated Princeton College and adopted the profession of civil engineer in 1850. He entered the Presbyterian Church and was pastor at Berlin, Indiana for two years. In 1860, he went to Amagansett, L.I. where he remained until 1862. He was chosen Chaplin of the 15th Regiment NJ Volunteers in the Union Army. He returned after the war to Hamburg and preached until 1873 when he took leave to go as an engineer with the U. S. Exploration Society to Egypt and the Holy Land. He wrote various historical articles and collected Indian and animal relics. He died December 11, 1891. A brother of Gov. Daniel Haines and son of Elias and Mary (Ogden) Haines, Sidney P., born in New York in 1804, and was an agent for his father in their rights in the state of Florida under their Spanish title. He made numerous trips up and down the coast. He returned to Hamburg in 1830, conducting a general merchantile trade. He married Diadannia Austin that year, and they lived where first settler Walling lived. He ran a forge for some time and postmaster at Hamburg. For nearly 30 years he labored and preached for the church through the mountains. He finally went West and undertook to found a town on the banks of the Mississippi in Missouri. He moved his family there in 1838. But after a great freshet that flooded the place he moved to Hannibal, Mo., where he died July 13, 1847. A daughter of Elias and Mary (Ogden) Haines, Mary O., born October 3, 1806, married Henry H. Darrah, son of WIlliam Darrah and Elizabeth, daughter of Richard Edsall. They lived at Hamburh in what was later transformed into the Baptist parsonage. He removed to Missouri in 1837, and died in St Louis. His widow died at Flora, Illinois in 1883. Their only child, elizabeth, born June 25, 1832, married Gen. Lewis B. Parsons, of Illinois, and died at Scarboro, Maine, September 2, 1887." I hope this helps someone, Cathy DiPietro

Cathy: Thanks for sending those marriage from Sussex Co. NJ. Have they been sent to the Haynes list? If not - I can do it. Let me know. Listers; Note the different spellings. Remember to use them when you are searching. I keep forgetting to look for Hains, Hayn & Hayne (no s). These are the spellings in that marriage index that she sent: Hainds Haines Hains Haize Hanes Hayn Hayne Haynes Hinds Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

I wonder if your Abigail could be a descendant of Thomas Haines, Haynes, etc, who married Sarah Rea or Ray? Have you read Dr. Rea's Journal in the Essex Institute? I believe it starts in Volume 18. The Essex Institute series on the Ropes family also includes information on this family. This series starts in Volume 7, I believe. Even more very interesting material on the family starts in Volume 1 involving the Ingersoll family. I say "I believe" because I only copied parts of each of these series. Thomas and Sarah are the ancestors of many of the West Jersey Haynes/Haines family members. Their history is better documented than most because the expiration of a life estate granted in an Ingersoll will required some kind of legal proceeding to cure title to the Essex County, MA land. At first, the investigator thought that some of the heirs of James Hinds of Salem had inherited the land but he ultimately concluded that the correct ancestor was William Haynes of Bedfordshire, England. A discussion of this proceeding may be found in the Boston Transcript, Item #6532. This is a series of newspaper genealogy columns that appeared in the Boston Transcript. The copy in my library is on paper fiche which is almost impossible to read and totally impossible to copy. Perhaps you can find a better copy somewhere. Good luck! Barbara

Greetings, "Sussex County, New Jersey Marriages" by Howard E. Case, 1992 Heritage Books - a transcription of civil marriage registration books A & B, from 1795-1878, originals at County Clerk's Office, Newton, NJ Book A 12 Mar 1826 - Hainds, Polly to Simeon Main 26 Feb 1800 - Haines, Elias to Mary Ogden 24 Oct 1835 - Haines, Eliza to Arthur Knox 21 Jan 1847 - Haines, Elizabeth to Jacob Stivers 04 Mar 1812 - Haines, Henry to Hannah Manning 17 Aug 1850 - Haines, Peter (of Newton) to Susan Longcer 26 Feb 1797 - Hains, Abigail to Peter Longcer 13 Nov 1817 - Hains, Tobias to Anna Hough 03 Mar 1799 - Haize, James (of Oxford) to Neely McMurtrie 31 Dec 1796 - Hanes Joseph to Sussah Culver 20 Nov 1824 - Hayn, Eliza to Evi Martin 03 Aug 1811 - Hayne, Lydia to Jacob Willson 31 Dec 1797 - Hayne, Maria (of Newton) to John Snuk 13 May 1826 - Hayne, Stephen to Catherine D. Cole 20 Apr 1807 - Haynes, Catherine to James Evans 30 Oct 1813 - Haynes, Coreliaugh to Thomas Casha 18 Jul 1807 - Haynes, Frederick to Sophia Willson 23 Dec 1805 - Haynes, Huldy to James Evens 05 Oct 1848 - Haynes, (Mrs.) Jane (of Wantage) to Peter Ryerson 20 Dec 1849 - Haynes, Rosetta (of Wantage) to William H. Decker 30 Oct 1824 - Hayne, Sims to Hannah Gardner 20 Dec 1826 - Hinds, George to Sophia Main 25 Jul 1829 - Hinds, John (of Hardyston) to Sally Ann Perry Book B 05 Dec 1860 - Haines, Catharine to John Aber 17 Dec 1868 - Haines, Henrietta A. (of Hamburg) to Henry L. Pierson, Jr. 02 Jul 1867 - Haines, Sarah D. to Arnold Guyot 09 Mar 1867 - Hayne, George O. (of Deckertown) to Mary F. Bishop 06 Oct 1875 - Hayne, Sarah E. to John Ancust 25 Sep 1873 - Hinds, Lottie E. (of Andover) to Joseph Ackerson 09 Dec 1868 - Hinds, Mary E. to Benjamin Cannon Hope this helps someone, Cathy DiPietro List Admin NJSussex-L

Greetings Hinds-L Researchers, My direct-line ancestress is Abigail HANES bc. 12 Apr 1755 NJ. She married John COMPTON bc. July 1758 Morris Co., NJ, son of David & Ann, before 1787. Their children, all baptized at Clove Dutch Reformed Church, Wantage, Sussex co., NJ on 12 Aug 1799 - Anny b. 20 Apr 1787, m. Robert LITTLE John b. 27 May 1789 Elizabeth b. 21 May 1791, m. Richard VAN ETTEN Ruth b. 28 Feb 1794 Priscilla b. 23 Feb 1798 Silas b. 31 May 1798, m. Mary, d. 23 Aug 1895 Danby, Tompkins, NY Robert Little and Richard VanEtten are in Danby, Tompkins Co., NY by 1810 when they purchased a 114 acre wood lot. I descend from both. John and Silas Compton appear on 1825 Danby, Tompkins census with all of the above. The 1793 Wantage, Sussex co., NJ Militia list shows HAINS, Abijah HAYNES, Peter Peter Haynes appears to be the son of Frederick (b. 1730-35 Germany) and Catherine Temperance (DECKER) HAYNES of Wantage, NJ. I've been unable to identify Abijah HAINS yet. I do not think my Abigail belongs to the German HAYNES group but possibly from the Southold, LI branch. Anyone who has ideas for where Abigail may have originated, please let me know. In the meantime, I will post Sussex county, NJ Hanes, Haines, Hinds folks I've found in case it might help someone. Any and All Clues, Leads, Hints and Suggestions Gleefully Accepted, Cathy DiPietro NJSussex-L List Admin

Cathy: Welcome to the Hinds mail list. Tell us about your Hinds connection - maybe we have some help for you on this list. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

Hi: This was posted to another list and she gave me permission to pass it along. It is evidently from a newspaper article. She also looked up in her Scottish books and found that the name Hind or Hinds is a Glasgow District name. And, by the way, the results of the first participants in our Hinds DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA.com can be viewed at: http://www.users.cts.com/crash/h/hindskw/KennethHinds/DNA.html Ken Hinds was kind enough to post the results on his homepage. Scan to the far right of the page to see the Hinds ancestor to which they are connected. You'll see why I have not been able to document my link to Joseph Sr. - he is evidently not my ancestor. Or possibly a HInds daughter died in childbirth and her parents raised the child giving him the Hinds name. Or.............................. Reminder: there is an article pasted below. Regards Nan Wolf Administrator Hinds Surname DNA Project at FamilyTreeDNA.com 71532.734@compuserve.com ===================================== Found at: http://www.news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=1342502003 Clan link is clue to saving lives ALASTAIR ROBERTSON HAVING a Scottish clan name could provide you with more than just a romantic link to your past, according to scientists who now believe it could also ensure your future. Genetic research has shown people with the same clan name are much more closely related than was previously thought, which should make tissue donor matches easier to find. That in turn could help save thousands of leukaemia sufferers and others struck down by immune-system disorders, according to a leading geneticist. The findings have been revealed at the same time as the announcement that a donor has been found, in the face of huge odds, for Millie Forbes, a 20-year-old Clan Forbes member from Aberdeenshire who has acute myeloid leukaemia. Like thousands of other sufferers in the UK, she needs a transplant of matching bone marrow as a last-resort treatment, after the disease returned following successful chemotherapy. Yesterday, her parents Jonathan and Nicky praised the Scottish clan system in the US for its leading role in the search for a donor. Millie’s grandfather is Chief of Clan Forbes. But it is not known if the donor, whose identity is secret, is also a Forbes clan member. Cancer experts already know that the chances of finding matching bone marrow, or similar tissue for medical donation, are far higher among close family members. Now according to research by author Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford University, it appears that even scattered clan members are more closely related than previously thought. This emerged during research in the Hebrides for his book on the handing down of male chromosomes, Adam’s Curse. By analysing DNA samples, he found that an unexpectedly high proportion of people called Macdonald, plus members of related clans with different names, were directly descended from Somerled, the 12th century warrior and founder of the clan. Not everyone who bears a clan name will be related to the chief, as some, such as former slaves or criminals, may have taken the name out of convenience. Intermarriage and dozens of generations will also have diluted the gene pool. But even so, Sykes found that 20% of Macdonalds could claim Somerled as their direct ancestor, a figure he described as "astonishingly high". That is likely to mean many Macdonalds are more closely matched genetically than had been thought. Sykes said the same close relationship would be true of any other clan that had distinct territories and homeland. And that in turns means an appeal for donors of the same clan name - perhaps through clan societies and associations on the internet - could possibly narrow the field of search dramatically and increase the chances of finding a match. "Judging by my research on Clan Donald, rather more Forbes members will be related to the clan chief than is generally thought," Sykes said. "So people in the clan are more related to one another than to anyone else." Steve Jones, professor of genetics at University College, London, said: "I can’t think why no one has used this idea before. It will not guarantee a match, but it is an excellent tool for searching for donors." MARROW DONOR FOUND FOR LEUKAEMIA SUFFERER A YOUNG Scot desperately in need of a bone marrow transplant has been found a donor who could save her life. Leukaemia sufferer Millie Forbes is expected to have an operation soon following the successful match-up. Forbes, 20, has been the subject of intensive campaigning to recruit new bone marrow donors by supporters across Britain. Forbes, from Alford in Aberdeenshire, caught the imagination of young people across the UK when the Millie Campaign was launched in August by her near-neighbour, comedian Billy Connolly. It urged people to sign up to the register of potential bone marrow donors held by the Anthony Nolan Trust, the worldwide marrow donor database. Yesterday, her parents Jonathan and Nicky praised the Scottish clan system in the US for its leading role in the search for a donor. Her grandfather is chief of Clan Forbes, but it is not known if the donor, whose identity is secret, is also a Forbes clan member. Campaign organiser Val Rahtz said the donor’s identity and nationality could not be revealed because of strict confidentiality rules. Forbes is in hospital to prepare for the surgery. ==== SCOT-DNA Mailing List ==== DNA Results are also being posted on the web site. Email to DNACLANS@comcast.net if you want to join the web site. For privacy reasons, this is a closed web site.

Hi: A recent e-mail acquaintance mentioned that she went to school with a Hinds boy that was part Iroquois, she believes. A good looking boy with green eyes. He attended St. Thomas Apostle School, 48th and Balboa Street, San Fransisco, California 1960-68. His family would have lived in what is referred to as the Richmond District of San Francisco. Within a couple miles of the Pacific Ocean and within blocks of Golden Gate Park. Some 5 miles from the Golden Gate Bridge. He was probably born 1954 since my contact was the oldest in the class and she was born 1953. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

Hi: Aileen gave me permission to send this to the Hinds/ Haynes/Hines lists. Regards Nan Wolf 71532.734@compuserve.com ============================ Aileen Furness <furness@westnet.com.au> wrote:From: "Aileen Furness" Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:19:59 +0800 Subject: [Lon] Queen's Life Guards in 1840s To: LONDON-L@rootsweb.com Hello - I have a Jonas Haines (Haynes) born 1823 in Haworth, Yks. who was in the Queen's Life Guards sometime in the years 1841-1846. He was out of it by 1847. I would like to know where I write for details of 'entry and exit' of this Guards. He was there for a few years but may not have been there 5 years. We have a photo of him in uniform and he created quite a stir when he re-visited Haworth, being invited out to all the 'posh' houses on the strength of his position and grand appearance! Thanks for any help. Aileen Furness in Australia furness@westnet.com.au ==== LONDON Mailing List ==== Send messages and queries of general interest to the list, but personal messages DIRECTLY to the individual. ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: furness@westnet.com.au Received: from bettong.westnet.com.au (bettong.westnet.com.au [203.10.1.8]) by siaag2aa.compuserve.com (8.12.9/8.12.7/SUN-2.9) with ESMTP id hBDCu8DZ021486 for <71532.734@compuserve.com>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:56:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bettong [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A398603AC for <71532.734@compuserve.com>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:56:00 +0800 (WST) Received: from 486notebook (dip-202-173-185-168.wa.westnet.com.au [202.173.185.168]) by bettong.westnet.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B4C460032 for <71532.734@compuserve.com>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:55:59 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <008e01c3c178$1e0cd6a0$a8b9adca@486notebook> Reply-To: "Aileen Furness" <furness@westnet.com.au> From: "Aileen Furness" <furness@westnet.com.au>