This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HINDS/HINES MATTIX DOWNEN BASHAM LEDFORD AUTRY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EKj.2ACIB/314 Message Board Post: Hi: David Hinds, died Dec 1843 in VanBuren, Crawford Co. AR. His oldest child was 12 - not old enough to be named in the estate papers. His heirs were named in the newspaper as Mrs. Margaret (Mattix) Hinds (widow), Esther (?) Hinds Eppler (his widowed but re-married mother), Jonathan Eppler and a John Hinds of KY. Could the last be a brother? So far I have not located any siblings of David Hinds, son of Esther & John Hinds. Esther is born in TN according to the 1850 census. It is said that David Hinds was born in KY and John and Esther did sell land in 1805 in Wayne Co. KY. Do they have any children besides David? David may have named a child after a sibling but his first two sons and first two daughters were named after their grandparents. His third son was named Archibald Yell Hinds - but Gov. Archibald Yell had been married by the same parson in Lawrence Co. AR & was a young attorney in VanBuren when the Hinds arrived so they may have named him after a friend - Archibald Yell before he became well-known. David & Margaret named their later daughters, Cynthia (Margaret's sister was Cynthia) and Mary. Marg. did not have a sister, Mary. Could she have been named after a sister of David? There is a "MARRIAGE - On the 14th day of May, by Josiah Wynne, Esq., Mr. Robert Russell, to Miss Sarah Jane Hinds; all, of this county." Who is she? Nan Wolf 71532.734@compuserve.com

Hi: Our local FHC (Family History Center) has the book of which I am pasting parts below. I found the Hinds & Hines because it is indexed and plan to send the Haines,Haynes, Hynds next week when I return to the FHC. The book is divided into states and counties so if there is a certain town or county which interests anyone on this list as to the 1840 pensioners in the town - let me know. This pension was only for people who were not well-off financially. What is this list important? Well, if you find your man on it - you can send for the pension application which tells all kinds of things about him and his military service. if it is a spouse - she needs to show proof of the marriage - primary source!! The list below gives the name of the pensioner (or surviving spouse), his age, and the head of the house in which he is living. I also copied the names of the pensioners in the same town in case allied surnames are mentioned. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ===================================== A Census of Pensioners For Revolutionary Or Military Services with their names, ages, and places of residence Under the Act For Taking The Sixth Census bound with a General Index printed by Blair and Rives 1841 Reprinted 1965 by Gen. Publishing Co., Inc Baltimore, Maryland. Index has: Hinds, Eli 67* Jesse 73* Joshua 168 Samel 9 Samuel 9 Hines Jacobus* 184 James* 152 John 188 An asterisk placed after a name indicates that such a person was the head of the family with whom the pensioner resided. EDEN, LAMOILLE CO. ,VERMONT Hinds, Eli, Jr, age 48, Eli Hinds, Jr. (other pensioners in the same town: Samuel Plumley, age 80, William Plumley Isaac Lackey, age 86, Samuel Plumley, jr. Peter Wylie, age 84, Peter Wylie Jonas Harrington, age 54, Jonas Harrington CHENANGO, BROOME CO. NEW YORK Hines, Jesse, age 81, Jesse Hines (other pensioners in same town) John P. Smith, age 86, M. Smith Peter Mills, age 62, Peter Mills Abel De Forest, age 79, Abel De Forest May McNelly, age 40, May McNelli William Rose, age 76, Elanson Rose Jedediah Seward, age 82, Jedediah Seward HOMER, ATHENS CO. OHIO Amos Stackhouse, age 82, Joshua Hinds (other pensioners in same town) William Stanly, age 65, V. C. Stanly ST. GEORGE, LINCOLN CO., MAINE Samuel Hinds, age 80, in house of Samel Hinds (probably same man) (other pensioners in same town) Benjamin Marshall, age 40, Benjamin Marshall David Keller, age 82, Alexander Keller Joseph Barter, age 57, Joseph Barter Mark Barter, age 54, Mark Barter PARKE COUNTY - No town names given Jacobus Hines, age 78, Jacobus Hines (other pensioners in same county) David Johnson, age 79, Isaac Johnson Jesse Duncan, age 85, William Green Samuel Musgrove, age 80, Samuel Musgrove William Long, age 80, William W. Clark Larkin Lane, age 79, Alexander Lane Daniel Stringham, age 75, R. H. Wedding Abel Hall, age 86, Abel D. Hall GRAINGER CO. TENNESSEE James Hines, age 89, James Hines (other pensioners in same county) John Tanner, age 81, John Tanner Lewis Collins, age 87, Lewis Collins Chapman Poindexter, age 81, Chapman Poindexter Richard Grantham, age 85, Richard Grantham John Bethel, age 84, John Bethel Joseph Yadon, age 84, Joseph Yadon William Clay, age 80, William Clay Thomas Brown, age 77, Thomas Brown Joseph Ellis, age 77, Joseph Ellis Adam Cabbage, age 85, Adam Cabbage John Hammock, age 86, John Hammock Israel McBee, age 79, Israel McBee Thomas Lay, age 79, Thomas Lay

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hinds Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/EKj.2ACIB/313.1.1 Message Board Post: I've found out that apparently a member of the Hinds family (jewellers) gave my husband's father a booklet which, as well as the helpful pages available on their website, included a family tree on which his mother is shown. I'm awaiting a copy of this. Perhaps you could lay hands on a copy to help in your research, if they still have one? Otherwise, if I can see anything helpful on the copy I get, I could let you know?

Hi: Document AJ-135 in the American Journeys website at: http://www.americanjourneys.org/search.asp Journal of Pontiac's Conspiracy, 1763 printed by the Speaker-Hines Printing Company of Detroit (no date given) Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com =====================================

Hi: I just rec'd this message as Administrator of the Hind list: "The AOL lists2 bounce issue has apparently been resolved!!!" This means that the four AOL listers to which I had sent messages concerning this problem should now be receiving their Hinds-L messages. I am sending a message to the list today about Speaker-Hinds Printing Company. Would the four AOL listers please let me know privately to: Nan Wolf 71532.734@compuserve.com that you rec'd it. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

I checked the site mentioned below and found several people named Hinds. So far, I cannot conect my family to any of them. Perhaps some of you can do better! Barbara --- Maureen Rawson <MRawson@mn.rr.com> wrote: > From: "Maureen Rawson" <MRawson@mn.rr.com> > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:36:09 -0600 > Subject: [Kent] Kent will transcripts > To: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com > > I have been collecting extracts and transcripts of Kent wills pre 1858 for > some time and now have about 1,325 wills on my web site. > Many of these have been kindly contributed by other people. > > I now have a bit of free time so if you have any such wills I would welcome > an extract or transcription. I can include your email address if you wish > to use it to make contacts. They can be sent in a message or as an > attachment, in text or Word, to this address or the email link on the web > site. Please include the probate reference if you have it, at least the > court and year of probate. > > The search facility on the site allows you to find people who were > mentioned in the wills or were witnesses. > > Maureen Rawson > Email: MRawson@mn.rr.com > > Web Site on genealogy sources for Kent, England: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mrawson/ > > > > > ==== KENT-ENG Mailing List ==== > There is a Kent / Sussex History Timeline at : > http://snow.prohosting.com/astrostu/index20.html >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/EKj.2ACIB/313.1 Message Board Post: Hi Laura, My grandfather is also a Hinds (Herbert William) (92) he says he has a family connection. I have been researching my grandfather's connection to Hinds (Jewellers) for sometime, but I am unable to link the two at present. I have traced some Hinds (Jewellers) side from about 1825 when Joseph Hinds started his clock/watchmaker business in Stamford. Your husband's grandmother's name has not appeared in my research so far. Perhaps we could share information

Hi: Just discovered a site that has first hand accounts of U.S. westward expansion. It is at: American Journeys -- Eyewitness Accounts of Early American Exploration and Settlement: A Digital Library and Learning Center http://www.americanjourneys.org/ Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ==================== Found using the search at: http://www.americanjourneys.org/ Journal in the Form of a Letter Covering the Period from the 20th of July 1738, When I Left Michilimackinac, to May, 1739, Sent to the Marquis de Beauharnois by La Vérendrye, Pierre Gaultier de Varennes, Sieur de, 1685-1749 "I sent off my son the Chevralier this morning, the 16th of April in the company with a savage, to go and explore the region near the fort on Lake Winnipeg and examine the rivers that flow into that lake, especially the Blanche River where I propose to go on the return of our canoes, also the mine on the lake and on the Blanche River, and to explore the outlet of the lake and make a circuit of it, and try to prevent the savages from going to the English by encouraging them to look for our arrival in a short time. Footnote: River Blanche is shown on the 1739 map, and is evidently the Saskatchewan. J. B. Tyrrell, in support of this view, notes that the Saskatchewan as shown on Jeffrey's map of 1762 as White's or Hind's River. (Geol. Survey of Canada Report 1898, 89G.) On the other hand Dr. Eliot Coues notes that Sir Alexander MacKenzie and D. W. Harmon refer to the Winnipeg as White River, 'after River Blanche of the French' (New Light, etc. I 27) Nan's comment: There must have been a Hinds in this region at some time - how else would someone call a river the Hinds River?.

Regarding Lorenzo Hinds' death, Nan asks: > Where in California? and Bill answers: >born 17 Feb 1884 in Arkansas and died 18 Feb 1972 in Santa Cruz County, My notes say Bonny Doon CA, but I can't find such a town on my map. I assume it is in Santa Cruz County. Bill also asks: >While you do not know of another King woman marrying a Hinds, do you know >if there were any male candidates for such a marriage? Maybe, but it doesn't seem likely to me. Lorenzo had 7 brothers. Abraham married Violet Tucker and Rachel Goddard. Holland married Julia Jones. Sylvester married Mrs Mary Wilson. George and Miller died young. John S "went west", probably to California with his brothers Holland and Sylvester. The last brother was Sylvanus, who died in Hindsville in 1863, just before his 20th birthday. I don't know for sure, but I think he never married. At any rate, he was not alive in 1872 when Minerva King died. I don't know exactly when the three brothers went to California, but I'm fairly certain they were not married at the time. Holland and Sylvester's children were born in CA. I don't know if John S ever married. He died in 1874 at age 30, but that's all I know about him. Sylvanus and John S are the only real possibilities for the other Hinds, and neither of them seems very likely. Sorry Nan, but the brothers didn't go to Tulare Co that I know of. Sylvester was in Plumas Co, and Holland was in Sonoma Co. Again I don't know about John S, but one story says he went to San Francisco. The other Hinds may have been a cousin of Lorenzo, rather than a brother. My William Hinds had a couple of sons I haven't been able to track down. William Jr born 1833 is supposed to have married a Virginia (unknown), or a Talitha (unknown). I question both of those marriages, though. James D born 1836 married a Martha (unknown), who may have been the widow of a Guthrie. Could any of those women be the missing King? Ed, the information you sent me doesn't seem to say if Minerva's sister had any Hinds children when the Moores were sent to live with her. Do you have anything on that? It might help me match up with William or James. >I wonder about the significance of the given name "Columbus"; which family >was it common to -- Hinds, King or Moore. You say that the eldest son of I'm not sure it has a significance, other than that it was a popular name in the 1800s. It was used in several of my Hinds branches, but also in many other families in my database. I think it was just an example of the historical names fad, like all the children named Benjamin Franklin whatever or Thomas Jefferson something. >Since Lorenzo Hinds is apparently not buried with his wife, Mary Jane, in >the Hindsville Cemetery, I wonder what happened to him. Are you sure about that? I have a book on Hindsville published by the Madison Co Genealogy & Historical Society. It has a listing of the Hindsville Cemetery, and shows Lorenzo. It shows him right next to Mary Jane. His dates are given as 1835-10-19 to 1885-01-22. Teresa adds: >If you have any other info on JCC Hinds, I would love to hear >about it. I don't have much on John himself. He was born 1861-03-16 in Madison Co AR and died 1941-06-26 in Waco TX. His wife Sarah died 1931-03-08, also in Waco. John's siblings were: Margaret Staltany Hinds 1862, who died as a baby Richard Greenleaf Magruder Hinds 1863 Sylvester Hinds 1867 Thomas W Hinds 1869 Susan Arvilla Hinds 1871 Allen Hinds 1873, who died as a baby Walter L Hinds 1874, who died as a baby I haven't been able to trace any of them. Nan asks: > Does anyone on this list have a timeline of the Hinds in Hindsville, >Madison Co. AR? Madison Co. touches the northeast corner of Crawford Co. >Was their father Levi also in Hindsville? Or did they >arrive in Hindsville after my John's death in 1838 in Crawford Co. AR? I haven't ever worked up a real timeline on them, I'm afraid. As far as I can tell, my Hindses came to Arkansas in early 1832, plus or minus a year. They were there well before 1838. Levi was with them. I'm fairly sure he died about 1847 in Madison Co, but I have not found his grave. Ken -- _____________________________________________________________________ Ken Hinds | One of the lessons of history |___ _| |___ | | California USA | is that nothing is often a | | |_| _| _| |_ | hindskw at | good thing to do and always a | | |___|_ | |_| |_| cts | clever thing to say. | |_ |_ |_| |_ _| dotcom | -- Will Durant | | |_| | |_____|_| | _______________|________________________________|_|_____|___|_______| http://www.users.cts.com/crash/h/hindskw/

Hi: This person gave me permission to forward this to the Hinds list - it was on the Hines list. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ======================================= Searching for information on a Thomas O. Hynes (Hines, Hinds, Hynds) from North Carolina. He was born Dec. 18, 1796 in North Carolina and had the following Children: Wm. J. (dob sept 22, 1854 and married Melissa Davis), Melissa Ellen Emmeline. Emmeline married John Savage and had a daughter named Mary Frances. Emmeline's second marriage to Alford Phillips in Catahoula Parish, La. had the following children: John(who became a minister, Charles H., Mary Toole, William Walter. These People landed up in or around Harrisonburg, Catahoula, La. Marilyn mjivy@aol.com

While searching the North Carolina Archives, I found a reference to a book written by Gail Hinds Bowden about the Hinds Family. I have written to Mrs. Bowden but have gotten no response. I found the book in the Texas State Library and have received a few pages from them. The book was given to the Library by Helen B. Frantz. Mrs Bowden lists her earliest ancestors as Joseph Hinds and wife, Esther, of Anson County, NC. She said that Joseph was the father of at least 10 children, Levi, Simeon, Joseph, a daughter name unknown, Abigail, John, Jane, William, Asa and Samuel. Someone, presumably Mrs. Frants, had scratched through some on the names of the children and had written in others. Her list was Levi, Simeon, Joseph, Abigail, Samuel, a name I cannot read but which may be Charity, Hannah, Ruth, Mary, another name I cannot read and Sarah. Mrs. Bowden said that Joseph Hinds died 2 Jul 1804 in Know County, TN. Both of these lists vary from the list that David Trimble and Kay Lamb included in their books. Samuel, John and Jane are only in the Bowden list. In checking the Genealogy.com archives, I find that there was a Samuel Hinds in Knox County who may have been the son listed by Mrs. Bowden. As we all know, there were a lot of Hinds men named John but Mrs. Bowden's John appears to be a different one. Does anyone have any additional information on this family? Barbara

Hi: In finding a 1811 Petition to Congress from people in Louisiana Territory & signed by a John Hines who I THINK is my ancestor who settled in Lawrence Co. AR before moving to Crawford Co. - I also spotted on the same petition paper - there were several papers handed out then brought together - there is a Buckner Hynes. So, using google I found none by that spelling but I did find the will below that mentions a Buckner Hines. Do any of you know his connection to this family below - it doesn't mention his connection. Would this Buckner Hines below be the same Buckner Hynes (Hines?) who signed an 1811 petition to Congress from Louisiana Territory which we later believe to be MO Territory than AR Territory? Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ===================================== Found at: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/lenoir/estates/nanhin.txt Lenoir County, NC - Estates File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by Glenn Fields <gnfields@msn.com> State of North Carolina } Superior Court of Law Lenoir County } Spring Session 1847 To the Honourable the Judge of the Superior Court of Law for Lenoir county. The petitioner of Nancy Hines, widow and relict of Daniel Hines, deceased of the County of Lenoir, Humbly complaining shewith unto your Honor that the said Daniel Hines was in his life time, and at the time of his death, seized or entitled in fee simple in possession of the following tract of land situate, lying and being in the County of Lenoir and Duplin viz. lying and being on Poly Bridge Swamp adjoining the lands of Daniel Hines, Jr., Joseph Hines the heirs at Law of Isaac Hines dec’d, Jesse Hardy, Jr. and Jesse Hardy, Sr. as will minefully appear by reference to the deeds of title papers for the same which are now in the hands of the defendants hereafter named, his heirs at Law. Your petitioner further shewith unto your Honour that the said Daniel Hines departed this life intestate on or about the _____ day of _____ A. D. 18____ leaving your petitioner his widow and James Hines, Ivy Hines, Charlotte Hines, Betsey J. Hines, Ivy Hines, Henry Hines, Buckner Hines, Charles Hines and Mary Ann (later on she is listed as Nancy Ann) Hines and that Betsey J. Hines has intermarried with Jesse Hardy, Jr. his only children and heirs of Law. Heirs surviving to whom the aforesaid tract of land descended as tenants in Common subject to the dower therein of your Petitioner. Your petitioner further shewith unto your Honor that no settlement or provision in lieu of dower having been made upon as for the benefitt of your petitioner upon or before her marriage with the said intestate. Your petitioner upon the death of her said late husband became and is now entitled to dower in or out of all the aforesaid tract of land which he was seized in fee at the time of his death as aforesaid being one third part of the same including the house or mansion as part in portion thereof in which he dwelt most generally next before his death together with the building and improvements belonging and appertaining thereto and your petitioner being entitled in manner aforesaid hath frequently applied in a friendly manner to the said defendants and requested them to assign and set apart by metes and bounds to your petitioner a full third part of said lands, as and for her dower therein and Your petitioner well hopes that they would have complied with such reasonable request as in justice and equity they ought. But now so it is may it please your Honor that the said defendant for certain reasons unknown to your petitioner utterly refused to comply with such request to the end therefore that the said defendants may answer the premeses and that in case any of the said defendants are infants of tender years with(out) a Guardian duly appointed, some suitable and discreet person may be appointed by this Honorable Court to defend the rights and interest of said infants in this suit and that dower of one third part of the aforesaid lands may be assigned and set apart so that your petitioner may hold and enjoy the same in severalty as and for her dower according to the statute in such case made and provided and that to effect that object a writ of dower may (be) issue(d) to the Sheriff of said County commanding him to summons a jury of good and lawful men to lay off and allot by metes & bounds to your petitioner her dower as third part in the lands aforesaid and put her in possession of the same and that your Honor would grant unto your petitioner such other and further relief in the premises as the nature and the circumstances of the Case may require, and to your Honor to grant unto your petitioner a copy of this petition for each one of the said defendants, together with a writ of Subponea as notice to be directed to the said defendants, James Hines, Ivy Hines, Charlott Hines, Ivy Hines (repeated here and earlier), Henry Hines, Buckner Hines, Charles Hines, & Nancy Ann Hines (listed earlier as Mary Ann) and Jesse Hardy & Betsey his wife commanding them at a certain day and under a certain _____ therein to be limited personally to be and appear before your Honour in this Honourable Court and then and there full true direct and perfect answer make to all and ________ the premeses, and further to perform and abide (by) such further order direction and decree therein as to your Honor shall _____ ______. And Your Petitioner shall ever pray. Bryan Solicitor The outside cover: Nancy Hines Vs James Hines, Ivy Hines, Charlotte Hines, Jesse Hardee & wife & others heirs at Law of Daniel Hines and Petition for Dower To Lenoir Superior Court March Year 1847 To be served on Jesse Hardee & wife Betsey Jane

Ken wrote: >I have information about the Hinds family of Hindsville. This is my line. My ggg-grandfather was William Hinds. The town is named after his brother John, who donated land for the Post Office and school. William and John's father was Levi Hinds, who was a son of Captain John Henry Hinds.< Hi All: Does anyone on this list have a timeline of the Hinds in Hindsville, Madison Co. AR? Madison Co. touches the northeast corner of Crawford Co. (where my line John & son David Hinds paid taxes in 1830/31). The Hindsville group are descendants of Capt. John Hinds of Rev. War. Researchers say that my John Hinds in Crawford Co. was the son of Levi, who was the brother of the same Capt. John HInds. In other words my John Hinds (who died in Crawford Co. AR in 1838) was the nephew of the Rev. Capt. John Hinds so he was the first cousin of Levi whose children Wm & John settled in Hindsville. Was their father Levi also in Hindsville? Or did they arrive in Hindsville after my John's death in 1838 in Crawford Co. AR? Regards, Nan 71532.734@compuserve.

Ken, Thanks for the response to our inquiries. Sarah Frances Ross was my 3rd great aunt. If you have any other info on JCC Hinds, I would love to hear about it. Thanks, Teresa Ross-Hild -------Original Message------- From: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Date: 12/29/03 21:57:24 To: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HINDS] Hindses of Hindsville Howdy Ed and Teresa I've been out of town for the last week, or I would have written sooner. I have information about the Hinds family of Hindsville. This is my line. My ggg-grandfather was William Hinds. The town is named after his brother John, who donated land for the Post Office and school. William and John's father was Levi Hinds, who was a son of Captain John Henry Hinds. Lorenzo James "Ringo" Hinds who married Mary Jane King was a son of the above John. I don't know of another King woman marrying into this Hinds branch. I also had not heard about Lorenzo and Mary taking in any additional children, but your information matches them otherwise. Margaret King, Mary's mother, is in the Hindsville cemetery. Her tombstone says she was born 1800-10-17 and died 1875-05-10. Ed, can you tell me the names of Mary's parents? I'd like to have that for my database. Sarah Frances Ross' husband was John Christopher Columbus Hinds, oldest son of Lorenzo. According to their son James Lorenzo, they were married in Hindsville after John C C came back from Beaumont TX, where he had been working to grade a railroad. They had 3 children as Teresa stated. James Lorenzo Hinds was born 1884-02-17 in Hindsville and died 1972-02-xx in California. Catherine was born about 1888. Arvilla was born 1890-09-09. I don't have any more information on Lorenzo's other children, but I do have information on the rest of the Hinds families in Hindsville. Is there anything else you want to know about them? Ken -- _____________________________________________________________________ Ken Hinds | It is better to suffer wrong |___ _| | _____| | California USA | than to do it, and happier | | |_| _|_| |___ | hindskw at | to be sometimes cheated | | |___|_ _| |_| cts | than not to trust. | |_ |_ |_| |_ | | dotcom | -- Samuel Johnson | | |_| | |_ _|_| | _______________|________________________________|_|_____|___|_|_____| http://www.users.cts.com/crash/h/hindskw/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Ken, for your response on the Hinds of Hindsville, Arkansas. I was glad to learn that they did indeed contribute to the town's name. I am prompted to ask several more questions of you. While you do not know of another King woman marrying a Hinds, do you know if there were any male candidates for such a marriage? I wonder about the significance of the given name "Columbus"; which family was it common to -- Hinds, King or Moore. You say that the eldest son of Lorenzo and Mary Jane King Hinds was named John Christopher Columbus Hinds. Noble Hamilton and Minerva King Moore named their first born William Columbus Moore. And Noble Hamilton Moore had a cousin named Columbus Moore. Since Lorenzo Hinds is apparently not buried with his wife, Mary Jane, in the Hindsville Cemetery, I wonder what happened to him. You asked about Mary Jane King Hinds' parents. That was my long quest, and has been only partially answered. Her mother is the Margaret King you referred to (1800-1875, born in North Carolina), but I don't know Margaret's maiden name or family history. I have proved to my satisfaction, but not with genealogical assurance, that Margaret was married to one William King, born about 1799 in North Carolina. It's a very long story, and I am going to send it to you privately. I don't know if you will find much new Hinds information, but there is some good Arkansas history recorded there. Thanks again, Ed Moore

Ken wrote: >James Lorenzo Hinds was born 1884-02-17 in Hindsville and died 1972-02-xx in California.< Ken: Where in California? Does anyone on this list have Hinds that are connected with or visited with family in Tulare Co. CA in the late 1800s? My ancestor, Archibald Yell Hinds, migrated at age 15 with his older brother (abt 21yrs) to Tulare Co. CA from Van Buren, AR which is across the river from Ft. Smith. Archibald Yell's grandfather, John Hinds (d 1838 in Van Buren,Crawford Co. AR) was the nephew of Capt John Hinds of the Rev. War. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

Nan: I believe we have talked about John Hinds of Crawford Co, AR before. If not, there is no known connection between him and my John Hinds, b. 1799 in KY and died after 1880 census in MS. I do suspect there is/was one. I just don't know what it was. Arkansas became a state in 1836. Many of the early settlers were people in Van Buren/Crawford County settled there after traveling up the Arkansas River. Like my John Hinds, I wonder if he might have been a river freighter hauler? Re: Bakersfield. As we have discussed, I have Hinds cousins there now, but they were not there until early 1930's. There are, however, two sons born around 1830-1835 that I have never even identified, let alone know where then went, plus another two born 1861-1865 that I don't know what happened to them. They would, of course have been a bit young to be in California with Mom and Dad still in MS. These two younger sons, born in early to mid 1860's were Marion and John H. Hinds. If any of this connects with anyone, please let me know. Bill Hinds -----Original Message----- From: Nan & George Wolf [mailto:71532.734@compuserve.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:57 PM To: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HINDS] Hindses of Hindsville Ken wrote: >James Lorenzo Hinds was born 1884-02-17 in Hindsville and died 1972-02-xx in California.< Ken: Where in California? Does anyone on this list have Hinds that are connected with or visited with family in Tulare Co. CA in the late 1800s? My ancestor, Archibald Yell Hinds, migrated at age 15 with his older brother (abt 21yrs) to Tulare Co. CA from Van Buren, AR which is across the river from Ft. Smith. Archibald Yell's grandfather, John Hinds (d 1838 in Van Buren,Crawford Co. AR) was the nephew of Capt John Hinds of the Rev. War. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

According to the California Index to Death Certificates, James L. Hinds was born 17 Feb 1884 in Arkansas and died 18 Feb 1972 in Santa Cruz County, California. His SSN was 462-34-4565. About 75 percent of the time the California Death Certificate Index will also give the mother's maiden name. However, his is not listed. Bill Hinds -----Original Message----- From: Nan & George Wolf [mailto:71532.734@compuserve.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 9:57 PM To: HINDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HINDS] Hindses of Hindsville Ken wrote: >James Lorenzo Hinds was born 1884-02-17 in Hindsville and died 1972-02-xx in California.< Ken: Where in California? Does anyone on this list have Hinds that are connected with or visited with family in Tulare Co. CA in the late 1800s? My ancestor, Archibald Yell Hinds, migrated at age 15 with his older brother (abt 21yrs) to Tulare Co. CA from Van Buren, AR which is across the river from Ft. Smith. Archibald Yell's grandfather, John Hinds (d 1838 in Van Buren,Crawford Co. AR) was the nephew of Capt John Hinds of the Rev. War. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Howdy Ed and Teresa I've been out of town for the last week, or I would have written sooner. I have information about the Hinds family of Hindsville. This is my line. My ggg-grandfather was William Hinds. The town is named after his brother John, who donated land for the Post Office and school. William and John's father was Levi Hinds, who was a son of Captain John Henry Hinds. Lorenzo James "Ringo" Hinds who married Mary Jane King was a son of the above John. I don't know of another King woman marrying into this Hinds branch. I also had not heard about Lorenzo and Mary taking in any additional children, but your information matches them otherwise. Margaret King, Mary's mother, is in the Hindsville cemetery. Her tombstone says she was born 1800-10-17 and died 1875-05-10. Ed, can you tell me the names of Mary's parents? I'd like to have that for my database. Sarah Frances Ross' husband was John Christopher Columbus Hinds, oldest son of Lorenzo. According to their son James Lorenzo, they were married in Hindsville after John C C came back from Beaumont TX, where he had been working to grade a railroad. They had 3 children as Teresa stated. James Lorenzo Hinds was born 1884-02-17 in Hindsville and died 1972-02-xx in California. Catherine was born about 1888. Arvilla was born 1890-09-09. I don't have any more information on Lorenzo's other children, but I do have information on the rest of the Hinds families in Hindsville. Is there anything else you want to know about them? Ken -- _____________________________________________________________________ Ken Hinds | It is better to suffer wrong |___ _| | _____| | California USA | than to do it, and happier | | |_| _|_| |___ | hindskw at | to be sometimes cheated | | |___|_ _| |_| cts | than not to trust. | |_ |_ |_| |_ | | dotcom | -- Samuel Johnson | | |_| | |_ _|_| | _______________|________________________________|_|_____|___|_|_____| http://www.users.cts.com/crash/h/hindskw/

Hi: I think I have sent this before but am sending it now just in case................. At the website below there is a great biography of Wm Alexander, patriot of the Rev. War. I am pasting just the bit about the fact that he bought land in Hinds Valley in Knox Co. TN. I believe this is the Hinds Valley that is now in Anderson & Union Counties TN - north of Knoxville & southwest of Maynardville - near the KY border. There is another Hinds Valley in the middle of the state. It seems that both valleys were settled by different children/grandchildren of Joseph Sr. who died 1772 in Guilford Co. NC. If you are familiar with the Over Mountain men - Wm. Alexander was one of them. They congregated from VA, KY and TN at Sycamore Shoals (in TN) on the west side of the mountains before marching over and through the mountains to fight at Kings Mountain in SC. They were featured in the movie, The Patriot with Mel Gibson, where movie license turned them into men of the swamp. My family and I have followed their trail over the mountains from Sycamore Shoals to the battleground in SC. - quite a feat in the time it took them to get there. Can't figure out why the movie moguls didn't want to feature such an accomplishment. If I remember correctly the move had them simply coming out of the swamps not marching over an entire mountain range. His entire bio is at the website below. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ================================== http://owslfl.tripod.com/williamalexander/ William Alexander "American Patriot" By 1807, William Alexander had moved to Knox County, Tennessee. On November 9, 1807, he purchased 300 acres of land located at Hickory Creek in Hinds Valley in Knox County, Tennessee. The land bordered Beaver Creek Ridge and Black Oak Ridge. William resided in Knox County until about May of 1838, when he moved to Hamilton County, Tennessee to live with his son, David Alexander.