This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EKj.2ACIB/369 Message Board Post: Hello I would like to know if anyone if familar with Walter Freeman Hinds or his wife Dovie Mae Hinds (?McAlpine). My Grandmother (Jesse Louise Hinds born in Pinebluff, Ark) on her dying bed admitted that she was half Comanche. I don't know which side of her parents was actually Native but my father had told me once that he thought it was on my great grandmothers side as they would refer to themselfs as "Black Dutch". I think Walter was born on Aug. 11th, 1882 in Alabama. Dovie, I think was born June 8th, 1887 in Pinebluff, Ark. Walter and Jesse both died in Ventura, CA. I am not sure about the Native heritage but am interested to find out more on my family roots. If anyone could help me it would greatly be appricated. Thank you.

NAN, Thanks for the information, I will followup. Bill

Barbara & Bill: I am pasting below several items found at google for "Fort Lawrence". =========================== Found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gataylor/forts.htm Forts Along the Federal Road The location of the Forts along the Federal Road played a significant role in the location of communities we know today. Passports through Indian Territory Significance in Creek Indian Wars Fort Wilkinson - Milledgeville Fort Hawkins - Macon Fort Lawrence - Flint River (Taylor County) across from Francisville (now Roberta) Fort Perry - (Marion County) Fort Mitchell - Columbus Fort Lawrence - Flint River Fort Lawrence (1810's?), on the west side of the Flint River across from Francisville, near Roberta was a temporary post. Located between Roberta and Reynolds in present day Taylor County, Georgia. Many times the town grew up on the opposite bank from the Fort. Francisville (now Roberta) was founded in 1825 by Francis Bacon who had married Jeffersonia, the youngest daughter of Benjamin Hawkins. It was a thriving town located on the river, until railroads came into existence in 1850s. ============================ Civil War Battles Found at: http://members.fortunecity.com/thegunny1/fort_lawrence_mo_6jan63.htm FORT LAWRENCE MISSOURI 6 January 1863 (Marmadukes 1st Missouri Expedition) OR-Series I, Volume XXII, Chapter XXXIV, Pg 193 Union Forces Detachment 2nd Battalion, 14th Missouri Militia Cavalry --- Captain Milton Burch Confederate Forces MacDonalds Regiment --- Colonel Emmett MacDonald ============================= Found at: http://www.geocities.com/naforts/mosouth.html MISSOURI FORTS Fort Lawrence (1861 - 1863), Taney County A Union fort located on Beaver Creek. Originally known as Beaver Station Fort and Lawrence Mill Fort. Attacked and destroyed by the Confederates. Note that Taney County is just across the border from AR.

Bill: There have been previous conversations about William Singleton Hinds on this list. I suggest that you search our archives at: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=HINDS-L I would use quotes: "William Singleton" to narrow it down to just that name. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

Bill: Great info for our archives and you definitely have cousins on this present list. One correction needed: Arkansas is not AK - that is Alaska. Arkansas is AR - not Arizona as some think - that is AZ. I am afraid that I have lost touch with the three Guerin researchers that I have come across over the years - they have changed their addresses - drat. I will give you their names in a private message if you are interested. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ===================================

NAN, My grandmother was Helen Strude Hinds. The line that I have with factual or fairly reasonable documentation to support is as follows: Helen Strude Hinds (12/15/1875 - 8/2/1962) William Singleton Hinds (1/26/1828 - 1/25/1923) Benjamin Hinds (1788 - 11/30/1829) Levi Monroe Hinds (1767 - 9/11/1842) Joseph Hinds (6/17/1735 - 7/18/1814) The extended line with limited or no documentation: Joseph Hinds (1705 - 1771) James Hinds (Bef. 1680 - Bef 10/26/1731) James Hinds (12/27/1647 - 2/24/1717/18) James Hinds (Bef. 1618 - Bet. 1653/1655) I have also documented the Byram Family from Huldah Byram (wife of William Singleton Hinds) back to the Mayflower Pilgrim, John Alden. I am also looking for documentation supporting relationships to the surnames: Shaw, Mason, Longbotham, Best, Bustard, Fox, Mullins, Allen, Edson, Hayward, Towne, Mitchell, Cooke Alden, Guerin, Childress, Remsden, Howarad, Pew, Farmer, Linsay, Carter, Webster, and Cavness. I am particularly interested in the story of Benjamin Jefferson Hinds and his wife Mary Ann Childress (Polly). The information I have indicates that they were married in Tennessee on 10/17/1809 and then left or followed his family to Alabama where they lived until at least 1828, when William Singleton and his sister Margaret Ann were born. Sometime before or just after their birth, Benjamin moved to Fort Lawrence, AK, near Hot Springs. He died there on Nov. 30, 1829. No record exists to explain whether he went alone or took part or all of his family with him. Records indicate that many of the children lived and died in Arkansas or Texas. A fragment from the 1830 Census (http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ar/washington/census/1830/wash1830.txt) lists as follows: Karyann? Hines w/m under 5 years =1 w/m 05-10 years =1 w/m 10-20 years =2 w/m 15-20 years =2 w/f under 5 years =1 w/f 05-10 years =2 w/f 40-50 years =1 This entry very closely fits the family of Polly Childress Hinds following the death of Benjamin. I would appreciate any information about this family during the period between 1827 and 1840 including verification of Polly's burial at Red Hill Cemetery in Marshall, AL, between 1833 and 1834. I know you just asked a simple question - sorry for the long and complecated answer. Thanks for your interest, Bill

Dear Bill, As far as I know, the only proof that any of us has that Joseph Hinds was the son of Joseph Hinds of Mendham, New Jersey, is a page out of a pocket notebook owned by John Hinds which listed the children of Joseph and Ruth. This was apparently written after both Joseph and Ruth were dead and may have been intended to establish that the children were born into a Quaker family. If you do not have this document, contact me privately and I will send you a copy. I, for one, do not believe that Joseph was a descendant of James of Salem and invite you to join us in searching for proof of his ancestry. I join you in your confusion about Fort Lawrence, Arkansas near Hot Springs. I could find no such place and finally concluded that it was in Indian Territory. Such a place existed supposedly in Oklahoma but it may have been across the border in Arkansas. Perhaps that is where the records are that you have been unable to find. Good luck! Barbara

Hinds Listers: Please welcome Stacy to our Hinds-L list. Stacy: Tell us about your Hinds connection. You may have some cousins on this list. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

A while back Nan posted the Hindses in Wayne Co KY in 1850. I can identify them: >Soerates Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1816 Kentucky >Jane Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1813 Kentucky >Amanda J Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1840 Kentucky >Mary E Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1841 Kentucky >Emily A Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1842 Kentucky >Patrick H Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1843 Kentucky >William H Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1846 Kentucky >James S Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1849 Kentucky James Socrates Hinds, s/o Joseph Hinds + Elizabeth Sharp wife Jane Henigar >Absalom Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1806 Kentucky >Susan Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1802 Virginia >Zrannah Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1834 Kentucky >Kizrah Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1840 Kentucky >Ragetta Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1843 Kentucky >Ann Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1846 Kentucky Absolom Hinds s/o Levi II Hinds + Susannah Gerron 2nd wife Susannah Hutchinson The children are Ziannah, Keziah, and Rosetta. >Archd Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1795 Tennessee >Martha Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1808 Kentucky >Jane R Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1826 Kentucky >Joseph D Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1827 Kentucky >Benjamin S Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1832 Kentucky >Nancy J Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1833 Kentucky >Rutha M Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1834 Kentucky >Sally A Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1836 Kentucky >Emily W Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1838 Kentucky >Eliza M Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1840 Kentucky >Martha S Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1842 Kentucky Archibald Hinds s/o Joseph Hinds + Elizabeth Sharp wife Martha Cowan or Ray The first child was really James. Ken -- ______________________________________________________________________ Ken Hinds | | |___ | |_____ | California USA | Just be glad you're not | |_ | |_ | _| |_| hindskw at | getting all the government | _| |_| |_| |_ _| hindskw | you're paying for. |_| |___|_ |___|_| | dotcom | -- Will Rogers | ___| _|___|___ | _______________|_________________________________|_|_____|_________|_| http://hindskw.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hinds, Durland, Durling Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EKj.2ACIB/368 Message Board Post: Just published, 200 page book, "Lost in the Woods:The Lure and History of Roxbury" including pictures of the now deserted logging settlement. Includes chapters on the Durland/Durlings, Hinds, schooling, logging industry, camps and current information. If interest in availibility or for more information, please email.

Hi: If one is searching the internet using google.com - the messages in the message boards and mail lists at rootsweb are not found by google. To search through all the messages on the message boards at rootsweb one needs to go to the rootsweb homepage (rootsweb.com) and scan down and click on Message Boards Homepage - the "Search All Message Boards" box will then pop up. And, If anyone knows how to search through all the mail list messages at rootsweb.com - let us know. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com

Hi: As I was searching for a certain John Hinds/Hines in KY I thought I might as well share the ones in Wayne Co. KY that lived there in 1850. I wish I was looking for a Ragetta or Zrannah or Kizrah instead of John. And, there wasn't a single Hines of any given name in the county. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com =========================================== Found using the census search at Ancestry.com: 1850 United States Federal Census Viewing records 1-25 of 43 matches for: Hinds About this database 1850 United States Federal Census with links to images of the original surviving population schedules. More information below « Global Search Results 1 2 Next Name Home in 1850 (City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year Birth Place View Image Save This Soerates Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1816 Kentucky Jane Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1813 Kentucky Amanda J Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1840 Kentucky Mary E Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1841 Kentucky Emily A Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1842 Kentucky Patrick H Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1843 Kentucky William H Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1846 Kentucky James S Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1849 Kentucky Absalom Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1806 Kentucky Susan Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1802 Virginia Zrannah Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1834 Kentucky Kizrah Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1840 Kentucky Ragetta Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1843 Kentucky Ann Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1846 Kentucky Archd Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1795 Tennessee Martha Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1808 Kentucky Jane R Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1826 Kentucky Joseph D Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1827 Kentucky Benjamin S Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1832 Kentucky Nancy J Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1833 Kentucky Rutha M Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1834 Kentucky Sally A Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1836 Kentucky Emily W Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1838 Kentucky Eliza M Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1840 Kentucky Martha S Hinds Division 2, Wayne, KY abt 1842 Kentucky

Hi: Found while browsing. Is that her brother (Edward Hinds) buried in the same gravesite? Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com =================================== 208. JAMES NOBLE TYNER (RICHARD, WILLIAM DOVER, HARRIS, JOHN HARRIS, SARAH, NICHOLAS) was born January 17, 1826 in Brookville, Franklin County, Indiana, and died December 05, 1904 in Washington D.C.. He married (1) DEMA L. HUMISTON, daughter of LEWIS HUMISTON. She was born May 11, 1830 in Ontario County, New York, and died September 09, 1871. He married (2) CHRISTINE HINDS December 24, 1872. She was born August 15, 1845, and died February 29, 1916. Notes for JAMES NOBLE TYNER: Congressional Biography for TYNER, James Noble, 1826-1904 TYNER, James Noble, a Representative from Indiana; born in Brooksville, Franklin County, Ind., January 17, 1826; pursued an academic course, and was graduated from Brooksville Academy in 1844; spent ten years in business; studied law; was admitted to the bar in 1857 and commenced practice in Peru, Ind.; secretary of the State senate 1857-1861; special agent of the Post Office Department 1861-1866; elected as a Republican to the Forty-first Congress to fill the vacancy caused by the resignation of Representative-elect Daniel D. Pratt; reelected to the Forty-second and Forty-third Congresses and served from March 4, 1869, to March 3, 1875; appointed Second Assistant Postmaster General, serving from February 26, 1875, to July 12, 1876, and as Postmaster General from July 12, 1876, to March 3, 1877; appointed First Assistant Postmaster General, and served from March 16, 1877, until his resignation on October 29, 1881; delegate to the International Postal Congress at Paris in 1878 and at Washington in 1897; Assistant Attorney General for the Post Office Department from 1889 to 1893, and again from 1897 to 1903; died in Washington, D.C., December 5, 1904; interment in Oak Hill Cemetery. Tombstones: Christine Hinds wife of James N. Tyner Born in Trumansburgh, New York August 15, 1845 Died at Washington, D. C. February 29, 1916 Jame N. Tyner Born in Brookville, Indiana January 17, 1826 Died at Washington, D. C. December 5, 1904 Statesman Mother Malinda A. Arundell Born in Vienna, New Jersey October 27, 1816 Died at Tryon, North Carolina October 22, 1898 Edward M. Hinds Born in Trumansburg, New York June 5, 1843 Died at Washington, D. C. February 28, 1875 Notes for DEMA L. HUMISTON: Dema was a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church. Children of JAMES TYNER and DEMA HUMISTON are: .....i......ALBERT H. TYNER. .....ii......LILLIAN TYNER.

Hi: Found this while browsing. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ===================================== Found at: http://www.cowaro.com/Genealogy/Surname_file/Ballinger.html ld 1771 05 27 NJPLD B_AH P208 Grantor: Isaac_Ballinger Grantee: Noah_Haines Description: Unappropriated_lands,_Evesham,_Burlington

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HINDS Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EKj.2ACIB/367 Message Board Post: HINDS_Minnie_CAMERON_1892-1967.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - James Bowie Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 113,317 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

Hi: Found this while browsing. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ================================ Found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarvin/kinard/houstonhmarr.htm Houston County, Texas Marriages GROOM INDEX 1882 - 1917 Transcribed by MARY TURNER KINARD COPYRIGHT Mary Kinard HAINS, JOHN JOHNSON, JULIA 26 JAN 1887 1©421 HAYNES, EARNEST HUBBARD, ROBERTA 20 SEP 1906 8©197 HAYNES, HENRY HYNES, EMILY 9 SEP 1913 11©313 HAYNES, JOSHUA DENMAN, ANNIE 20 FEB 1898 5©33 HAYNES, MORRIS BROOMFIELD, NAZERINE 29 DEC 1904 7©377 HAYNES, ROBERT L JORDAN, PARALEE 31 DEC 1885 1©305 HAYNES, WESLEY SPENCER, LOUISA 21 FEB 1904 7©223 HAYNES, WILLIAM JOHNSON, MARY BELLE 1 DEC 1900 6©15 HINES, C D HOOPER, NETTIE 28 APR 1901 6©127 HINES, J W MANNING, MATTIE 29 JUN 1902 6©356 HYNES, HENRY THOMPSON, EMILY 13 JUL 1910 10©43 HYNES?, JUDGE LIVINGSTON, MAMIE 28 DEC 1891 3©30

Ken wrote: >I can identify the second one. He was the John Hinds for whom the town of Hindsville was named. He was a brother of my ggg-grandfather William Hinds. < That leaves the one in Washington Co. Since Washington Co. is close to Crawford Co. could my John HInds who died in Crawford Co. in 1838 also own land in Wash. Co. in 1836. For those of you who don't remember the original message I am pasting it below. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ========================= Found at Ancestry.com: Arkansas Census, 1819-70 records matching your search for John Hines All Records > Census > Arkansas Census, 1819-70> Individual View Personal Information Name: JOHN HINES (this is brother of Ken's ancestor, William HInds) State: AR County: Washington County Township: No Township Listed Year: 1836 Record Type: Tax list Page: 020 Database: AR 1830-1839 Tax Lists Index =============================== Name: JOHN HINES State: AR County: Madison County Township: Arkansas Territory Year: 1838 Record Type: Tax list Page: 006 Database: AR 1830-1839 Tax Lists Index ================================= This one is Nan's ancestor: Name: JOHN HINES (This is Nan's ancestor, son of Levi. Levi's will was probabed 1817 in Wayne Co. KY.) State: AR County: Lawrence County Township: Arkansas Territory Year: 1831 Record Type: Tax list Page: 012 Database: AR 1830-1839 Tax Lists Index

Hi: Found while browsing. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com =================================== Found at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarvin/kinard/bosquehmarr.htm Bosque County, Texas Marriages GROOM INDEX 1860 - 1928 Transcribed by MARY TURNER KINARD COPYRIGHT Mary Kinard HAINE, ROB BURO, EMMA 9 NOV 1914 I©394 HAINES, J C MABERRY, LUCY A 22 APR 1865 B©42 HAYNES, M L WEEKS, LIZZIE 25 JUL 1905 H©173 HINES, ALFRED HALL, RHODA C 13 NOV 1869 B©173 HINES, F E HILL, MOLLIE E 9 DEC 1899 G©256 HINES, GEORGE WINBURN, MARTHA 26 DEC 1875 C©279 HINES, J B GARNER, LILLIE MAY 3 MAY 1917 I©566 HINES, ROBERT RASBERRY, MARY E 21 OCT 1875 C©224 HINES, ROBERT RASBERRY, MARY E 20 OCT 1875 B©374? HINES, W T SMITH, LENA 6 DEC 1901 G©409 HYNES, JACK WISE, HATTIE 2 JUL 1928 K©47

Nan had some John Hinds/Hines in AR. I can identify the second one. He was the John Hinds for whom the town of Hindsville was named. He was a brother of my ggg-grandfather William Hinds. Ken -- ______________________________________________________________________ Ken Hinds | | | _ | _|___ | | California USA | Just be glad you're not | |_| |_| |_ | | | hindskw at | getting all the government | _| |___| |___|_| | hindskw | you're paying for. |_| |_ |_ _| | | | dotcom | -- Will Rogers | ___|_| |_| _| |_| _______________|_________________________________|_|_______|___|_____| http://hindskw.com/

Hi: I ran across this obit which mentions a sister named Jewelene (Rains) Hinds. Regards Nan 71532.734@compuserve.com ====================================================== Found at: http://www.jenningsfh.com/obituaryarchive/200305.htm Mrs. CHRISTINE ADELINE (RAINS) WILLIAMS, 75 ,of Jamestown, TN, Passed Away Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at the JAMESTOWN REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER in Jamestown, TN. Funeral Service will be Friday, May 23, 2003 at 2:00 PM at the JENNINGS FUNERAL HOME CHAPEL with burial in the WOLF RIVER CEMETERY in Pall Mall, TN The family will receive friends Thursday, May 22, 2003 from 4:00 PM to 9:00 PM at JENNINGS FUNERAL HOME CHAPEL Mrs. CHRISTINE ADELINE (RAINS) WILLIAMS is survived by: Husband-HENRY WILLIAMS of Jamestown, Tenn. Daughter-MARGARET WALLACE AND HUSBAND THOMAS of Jamestown, Tenn. Daughter-HENRIELLA LONG AND HUSBAND LARRY of Seymour, Tenn. Daughter-BETTY SUE YORK AND HUSBAND RONNIE of Grimsley, Tenn. Son-JAMES WILLIAMS AND WIFE PATSY of Jamestown, Tenn. Son-JERRY WILLIAMS AND WIFE BRENDA of Jamestown, Tenn. 12 GRANDCHILDREN 9 GREAT-GRANDCHILREN Sister-MAXINE RAINS of Jamestown, Tenn. Sister-COLENE HOLT of Jamestown, Tenn. Sister-JEWELENE HINDS of Jamestown, Tenn. Sister-ARLENE KELLEY of Brentwood, Tenn. Sister-LORENE CARGILE of Jamestown, Tenn. Brother-WILLIAM RAINS of Spring Hill, Tenn. She was preceded in Death by: Father-JIM RAINS Mother-LUCY (YORK) RAINS Brother-JOHN JACKSON RAINS Brother-JERRY RAINS Brother-DANNY BLUE RAINS Brother-PERRY RAINS Brother-INFANT Jennings Funeral HomesJamestown, TN in charge of services for Mrs. CHRISTINE ADELINE (RAINS) WILLIAMS of Jamestown, TN