Hi fellow researchers, I enjoy the reading and gleaning from all the responses but now I have some questions. Would someone who has access to census info look up for me the following: First: 1850 Census NC (sorry no county) for a Joel/John H Hill b. abt 1830 He may be married to Arrena Moore by then. Also for Arrena Moore who is b abt 1843 NC who her parents and siblings may be. Second: 1860 NC census (again no county) for Rufus b. to Joel/Arrena 1865, Mary 1867, Phebe E 1868 Third: 1870 VA (no county) where Walter J b 1870 (to Joel and Arrena) Walter J 1873, John 1876, James 1877 and twin girls Abba and Pallo Alto b 1879 Am hoping the census info will provide some clue as to the parents of Joel/Arrena and verify their children, dates, where they were etc. Thanks for any help. Marge Ratliff Schulke