I did receive all 4 of your emails you sent last evening at my adelphia mail address...maybe we're back in business again. Original Message: ----------------- From: Fran Hill fran@haas.berkeley.edu Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:07:38 -0700 To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HILL] Luke and Charlotte Richardson HillVA/MO Looking for any information on Luke Hill and his wife Charlotte Richardson Hill. Luke (b. ca. 1788 in Franklin Co. VA) marries Charlotte Richardson (b. ca 1790 in Franklin Co. VA; d. ca 1843 in Ray County, MO) on 22 Oct 1810 in Franklin Co. VA (per citation, unconfirmed, in One World Tree). In the correspondence of Gertrude Mann in the archives of the Franklin Co. Historical Society, this couple is said to move to Missouri early on in their marriage. Mrs. Mann speculates that Luke is the son of Thomas Hill (1750 PA -1827 VA) & Aliannah Standifer/Standefer, the nephew of Swinfield Hill (1749 PA - 1826 VA) and Martha van Bibber, and the grandson of Robert Hill (1713, Dublin - 1778 VA) & Violetta Linus (1721 - 1803 VA), all members of a pioneering family who lived on the Pigg River in Rocky Mount, VA. Charlotte is the daughter of Jonathan Richardson/Richeson (1748-1813 VA) and Elizabeth Taylor (b. ca. 1749 VA). Heirs (presumably children of this marriage and their spouses) are referenced in court proceedings following Charlotte Hill's death in 1843 as follows: Wills and Admin. Ray Co. MO Books A&B 1821-53 Charlotte Hill, intestate Admr. James Johnson, Securties (son-in-law?) Daniel J. Branstetter and O.H. Scarcy 18 October 1843 B/28 Ray Co. MO Probate Records Charlotte Hill, dec’d James Johnson, Admr. Book 1, page 71 File H-9 From the record of estate was [page 125] Inventory, which showed various personal effects plus one slave named Alexander, appraised at $200.00 and one slave named Susan, appraised at $250.00 and the following land: W1/2 SW ¼ 22-52-27m 80A. and E ¼ 22-52-27, 40A. Dated November 1845. No date of death given, and no will. Final Settlement Notice appeared in the Grand River Chronicle in Chillicothe, Missouri on 30 November 1848. The following signed for their equal shares (James S. Hill had his in two parts, 2/3 earliest and then 1/3 due with this settlement) 3 Jan 1846 Aleyanah Johnson and James Johnson, husband and wife James S. Hill Skelton Hill Thomas Hill Elizabeth Jasper and Edward Jasper, husband and wife Edward Jasper The fact that Luke and Charlotte have a daughter named Aleyanah and a son named Thomas makes Mrs. Mann's conjecture [of a link to Robert Hill via son Thomas] very attractive! Can anyone confirm or contribute to Mrs. Mann's account? Many thanks. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Looking for any information on Luke Hill and his wife Charlotte Richardson Hill. Luke (b. ca. 1788 in Franklin Co. VA) marries Charlotte Richardson (b. ca 1790 in Franklin Co. VA; d. ca 1843 in Ray County, MO) on 22 Oct 1810 in Franklin Co. VA (per citation, unconfirmed, in One World Tree). In the correspondence of Gertrude Mann in the archives of the Franklin Co. Historical Society, this couple is said to move to Missouri early on in their marriage. Mrs. Mann speculates that Luke is the son of Thomas Hill (1750 PA -1827 VA) & Aliannah Standifer/Standefer, the nephew of Swinfield Hill (1749 PA - 1826 VA) and Martha van Bibber, and the grandson of Robert Hill (1713, Dublin - 1778 VA) & Violetta Linus (1721 - 1803 VA), all members of a pioneering family who lived on the Pigg River in Rocky Mount, VA. Charlotte is the daughter of Jonathan Richardson/Richeson (1748-1813 VA) and Elizabeth Taylor (b. ca. 1749 VA). Heirs (presumably children of this marriage and their spouses) are referenced in court proceedings following Charlotte Hill's death in 1843 as follows: Wills and Admin. Ray Co. MO Books A&B 1821-53 Charlotte Hill, intestate Admr. James Johnson, Securties (son-in-law?) Daniel J. Branstetter and O.H. Scarcy 18 October 1843 B/28 Ray Co. MO Probate Records Charlotte Hill, dec’d James Johnson, Admr. Book 1, page 71 File H-9 From the record of estate was [page 125] Inventory, which showed various personal effects plus one slave named Alexander, appraised at $200.00 and one slave named Susan, appraised at $250.00 and the following land: W1/2 SW ¼ 22-52-27m 80A. and E ¼ 22-52-27, 40A. Dated November 1845. No date of death given, and no will. Final Settlement Notice appeared in the Grand River Chronicle in Chillicothe, Missouri on 30 November 1848. The following signed for their equal shares (James S. Hill had his in two parts, 2/3 earliest and then 1/3 due with this settlement) 3 Jan 1846 Aleyanah Johnson and James Johnson, husband and wife James S. Hill Skelton Hill Thomas Hill Elizabeth Jasper and Edward Jasper, husband and wife Edward Jasper The fact that Luke and Charlotte have a daughter named Aleyanah and a son named Thomas makes Mrs. Mann's conjecture [of a link to Robert Hill via son Thomas] very attractive! Can anyone confirm or contribute to Mrs. Mann's account? Many thanks.

Mel, The following are sites that have some Hill info. The last one is my Hills. All I have found are from Johnston, Wake and Cumberland Counties in NC. In the first site look in Green, Dobbs and Lenoir Counties. Good hunting. Iris http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nc/ncfiles.htm http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=wiwabehi&recno=2706 Mel <http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi> wrote: Hi, Thanks for sending this along. In the first list there is shown: Hill, Braggs - Hill, Isaac - Hill, John. I have a John Hill and an Isaac Hill in my family line. How would I find out more about these Hill's list on that site? Where were your Hill's from? Mel Hill --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

Maxine, there was a big family of Hills down in Dobbs, Lenoir and I think Green Cos. in NC. Dobbs no longer exists, but you can go to http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/dobbs/voters/1779.txt and find 3 Hills on the voter list for 1779. I have never been able to tie these to my Hills, but it could help someone else. Try looking at the other counties I mentioned, also. The one below is the 1790 census. It has Hills, too. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/dobbs/census/1790cens.txt Iris Hill Brown HILL-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: HILL-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 86 Today's Topics: #1 L. Burton/Elberton/Burt Hill ca 18 [Iris Brown ] #2 Hill Ancestors [AJOLSON@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from HILL-D, send a message to HILL-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:34:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Iris Brown <eurisus2@yahoo.com> To: HILL-D@rootsweb.com Subject: L. Burton/Elberton/Burt Hill ca 1825-1900 Johnston and Wake & Cumberland Cos. NC I will post yet again, and hope for a little info. My ggrandfather, Burt Hill, shows up in Johnston Co., NC in the 1850 census, and was married that same year. Before that I have no clue about his parents siblngs or anyone. I have his Civil War record and that he applied for a pension. Of course, there is the folk lore of Bert was a Native American and changed his name, but since every family has one, I don't put much stock in it. Regards~Iris Hill Brown Burton or Elberton Hill 1825 - 1900 + Susan Dodd 1832 - 1900 ........ 2 Josephine Hill 1852 - ........ 2 William Ransom Hill 1856 - ............ +Ann Unknown ........ 2 Ann Elizabeth/ Eliza Hill 1858 - 1930 ............ +William Moseley Turley 1853 - 1943 ........ 2 Gilly B. Hill 1859 - 1934 ............ +Nicholas Poole 1855 - 1925 ........ *2nd Husband of Gilly B. Hill: ............ +John M. Moore ........ *3rd Husband of Gilly B. Hill: ............ +Jesse B. Holmes 1848 - 1917 ........ 2 Lenoar Hill 1860 - ............ +Perry Godwin 1861 - ........ 2 Daniel James Hill 1861 - 1935 ............ +Florence Eldridge 1882 - 1967 ........ *2nd Wife of Daniel James Hill: ............ +Annie B. Stevens 1859 - 1915 ........ 2 Adaline Hill 1864 - ............ +John M. Moore 1830 - ........ 2 Easter J. Hill 1868 - 1942 ............ +Brittain Moore 1857 - 1915 ........ 2 Samuel Junius Hill 1869 - 1950 ............ +Mary Catherine Brooks 1881 - 1953 ........ 2 Doctor Edgar Hill 1874 - 1927 ............ +Zilla Ann Parrish 1874 - 1963 bert - ------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ______________________________Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:44:08 EDT From: AJOLSON@aol.com To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Hill Ancestors I emailed once 2 or 3 years ago and no one was able to help, so I thought that I would try again. Looking for information on my direct ancestor named Wise Hill b. ca. 1715, parents and wife unknown. D. between 1994 - 1800 in Carteret County, N. C. Known children were Peter Hill I, Henry, John and Hannah. He was in Carteret County in j1745 when he appeared in the county court to make oath that there were six white persons in his family. He appeared in a muster return of the Carteret militia, with john, in 1754. In 1758 and 1763 he sesrved on a grand jury and in 1761 and 1762 received grants of land on Jumping Run and Williston Creek. He was living as late as 1794 when he gave property to his daughter, Hannah Styron. I once was told that he was born at Creektown in Carteret County which no longer exists, but I have not been able to find it on any map. Also, he was found on a "list of tithables Northhampton County, Virginia. 1730 - 1742.'" My line is Peter Hill I b. ca. 1740 - 1750 in Carteret County, d. ca. 1815 Carteret County. Known children were Peter Hill II (my line), John and probably others. His wife was named Nancy, maiden name unknown. Peter Hill II m. 6 July 1816 to Sidney Rose I and they had six known children. Peter was a carpenter and boatwright. He served in the War of 1812 as a private in the militia company commanded by Captain William Nelson which was raised for the defense of Core Banks against the depredations of the British during the summer of 1813. Any help would be appreciated. Maxine Hill Olson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I emailed once 2 or 3 years ago and no one was able to help, so I thought that I would try again. Looking for information on my direct ancestor named Wise Hill b. ca. 1715, parents and wife unknown. D. between 1994 - 1800 in Carteret County, N. C. Known children were Peter Hill I, Henry, John and Hannah. He was in Carteret County in j1745 when he appeared in the county court to make oath that there were six white persons in his family. He appeared in a muster return of the Carteret militia, with john, in 1754. In 1758 and 1763 he sesrved on a grand jury and in 1761 and 1762 received grants of land on Jumping Run and Williston Creek. He was living as late as 1794 when he gave property to his daughter, Hannah Styron. I once was told that he was born at Creektown in Carteret County which no longer exists, but I have not been able to find it on any map. Also, he was found on a "list of tithables Northhampton County, Virginia. 1730 - 1742.'" My line is Peter Hill I b. ca. 1740 - 1750 in Carteret County, d. ca. 1815 Carteret County. Known children were Peter Hill II (my line), John and probably others. His wife was named Nancy, maiden name unknown. Peter Hill II m. 6 July 1816 to Sidney Rose I and they had six known children. Peter was a carpenter and boatwright. He served in the War of 1812 as a private in the militia company commanded by Captain William Nelson which was raised for the defense of Core Banks against the depredations of the British during the summer of 1813. Any help would be appreciated. Maxine Hill Olson

I will post yet again, and hope for a little info. My ggrandfather, Burt Hill, shows up in Johnston Co., NC in the 1850 census, and was married that same year. Before that I have no clue about his parents siblngs or anyone. I have his Civil War record and that he applied for a pension. Of course, there is the folk lore of Bert was a Native American and changed his name, but since every family has one, I don't put much stock in it. Regards~Iris Hill Brown Burton or Elberton Hill 1825 - 1900 + Susan Dodd 1832 - 1900 ........ 2 Josephine Hill 1852 - ........ 2 William Ransom Hill 1856 - ............ +Ann Unknown ........ 2 Ann Elizabeth/ Eliza Hill 1858 - 1930 ............ +William Moseley Turley 1853 - 1943 ........ 2 Gilly B. Hill 1859 - 1934 ............ +Nicholas Poole 1855 - 1925 ........ *2nd Husband of Gilly B. Hill: ............ +John M. Moore ........ *3rd Husband of Gilly B. Hill: ............ +Jesse B. Holmes 1848 - 1917 ........ 2 Lenoar Hill 1860 - ............ +Perry Godwin 1861 - ........ 2 Daniel James Hill 1861 - 1935 ............ +Florence Eldridge 1882 - 1967 ........ *2nd Wife of Daniel James Hill: ............ +Annie B. Stevens 1859 - 1915 ........ 2 Adaline Hill 1864 - ............ +John M. Moore 1830 - ........ 2 Easter J. Hill 1868 - 1942 ............ +Brittain Moore 1857 - 1915 ........ 2 Samuel Junius Hill 1869 - 1950 ............ +Mary Catherine Brooks 1881 - 1953 ........ 2 Doctor Edgar Hill 1874 - 1927 ............ +Zilla Ann Parrish 1874 - 1963 bert --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

From : Stuart Scott <stupat@worldnet.att.net> Sent : Thursday, January 1, 1970 2:43 PM To : "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> Subject : Re:Luke Hill (1613-1696)/reply O.K. thanks for the reminder - I was dead tired when I arrived home last night from a trip. Here are my research notes on Luke Hill. Can you confirm or deny any of this information? I have other information on his son (Luke Hill, Jr), his grandson (Roswell Hill), his great grandson (Theodore), and his great, great grandson (George Ross Hill) if any of those men are also in your line. Please, remember - the following are just my research notes: Patricia Kay Scott Luke Hill April 6, 1613 or 1620 - 1696 Birth: On Ancestry.com (A.c) some have noted that Luke Hill was born in Windsor, Hartford, Connecticut on April 6, 1613, but this is not possible. He must have been born in England. Someone on (A.c) has said he was born in 1620 in England. Luke Hill is a very common name in England, which presents a problem. One person () on Ancestry.com has listed Luke as born in 1613 in England, and died in 1696 in Simsbury Hartford CT. She lists that Luke married Mary Hoit (Hewitt), who was born in 1623 in England. She lists the same children for this couple as everyone else does. Another person, (ctedesco7) in Ancestry.com lists Mary Hoyt born 20 Sept 1635 in Upway, Dorsetshire England and married Luke 6 May 1651 in Windsor CT Another person, notes in Ancestry.com that there was a William Hill born between 1562 and 1607 and died between 1599-1688 with an unknown but was married between 1586-1646 and had Luke Hill as a child born between 1599 and 1631. The Millennium File for Luke Hill lists his birth as 1620 in England and his death as 1696 in Simsbury Hartford CT Religion: Some Early Records & Documents of and Relating to the Town of Windsor, Connecticut 1639-1703 published by Hartford Ct Historical Society 1930, P. 117 the Oct 7, 1669 lists of freemen includes Luke Hill. This indicates that he was a member of the established church. Parents: Luke has been recorded on Ancestry.com as the son of William Hill (born 1576 in Lyme Regis, Drstsh, England), and Sarah Jourdain (born March 4, 1599 in Exeter, Devon, England). This may, or may not be true. Early mention in published books about Connecticut do not mention Luke as a son of this William Hill. And, this William Hill’s will does not list a Luke. Many CT records seem to mix up two men named William Hill. (See William Hill file.) Spouse: Luke Hill married Mary Hoyt, who is listed on some Ancestry.com sites as born 20 Sept 1635. They married on 6 May 1651 in Windsor, Hartford Connecticut (Windsor Records, The Register, 5, 228.) But, she had been married previously to Jonas Weed in 1636. And, if records are correct, she may have been married a third time to Thomas Lyon. There is also a mention of the 4th spouse, John Wilson. Mary Hoyt may have been born in Upway Dorsetshire England. Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Windsor, A Facsimile of the 1892 Edition. Somersworth; New Hampshire Publishing Company, 1976. p. 392 notes Luke married Mary Hoyt 6 May 1651 (O.C.R.) Stiles also notes that there is no evidence of a relationship to Mr. William Hill (note: Stiles is writing about the Wm Hill born ______ and died ________ ). Children: This is a problem, because of Mary’s three marriages, if that fact is true. There are actually over 20 children listed for her on various lists. The following are the 7 children most commonly listed for Luke and Mary (One Tree Family and Hon. Ralph D. Smyth’s article p. 156.) Lydia (born February 18, 1651 in Windsor, Hartford, CT) Simsbury, CT Births, Marriages, & Deaths published by Albert C. Bates Hartford 1898 lists Lydia (born 18 Feb 1651) as a daughter of Luke Hill (born in 1813). On p. 14 it is noted that Lydia Hill, daughter of Luke Hill of Simsury married Arthur Henbery 5 May 1670. On p. 21 it is noted that Lidia Hill, daughter of Luke Hill died 5 Oct. 169[5] Mary (born September? 20, 1654 in Windsor, Hartford, CT) Some Early Records & Documents of and Relating to the Town of Windsor, Connecticut 1639-1703 published by Hartford Ct Historical Society 1930 notes Mary married John Saxston July 30, 1677 (p. 47) Some Early Records & Documents of and Relating to the Town of Windsor, Connecticut 1639-1703 published by Hartford Ct Historical Society 1930, p. 47 says her birth was 20 Feb 1654. Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Windsor, A Facsimile of the 1892 Edition. Somersworth; New Hampshire Publishing Company, 1976., p. 392 gives her birthdate as September 20, 1654. Ebenezer (born march 20 1656 in Farmington, Hartford, CT) Tahan (born November 23, 1659 in Windsor, Hartford, CT) Hannan (born November 17, 1689) married Samuel Bushnell Tahan (born 1691) Luke, Jr.* (born March 6, 1661 in Windsor, Hartford, CT) *(PKS’s direct ancestor) (see Luke Hill for his children) Abrigail (Abigayl) (born April 16, 1664 in Windsor, Hartford, CT) Elizabeth (born October 18, 1666 in Windsor, Hartford, CT) Some Early Records & Documents of and Relating to the Town of Windsor, Connecticut 1639-1703 published by Hartford Ct Historical Society 1930, p. 47 gives her birth as Oct. 8, 1666. Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Windsor, A Facsimile of the 1892 Edition. Somersworth; New Hampshire Publishing Company, 1976., p. 392 notes that Elizabeth married William Buckland John (born November 28, 1668 in Windsor, Hartford, CT) Simsbury, CT Births, Marriages, & Deaths published by Albert C. Bates Hartford 1898 notes John Hill (born 1668) (son of Luke hill) married Sarah Terrey 22 April 1708. She was daughter of Lt. Terrey of Simsbury. P. 213 notes that John Hill died 1 August 1771 It is very confusing, but this book also notes these kids born to John Hill (pp. 22, 30, 33, 79), but On p. 103 it is noted that Elizabeth Hill, wife of John Hill died 21 Sept 1738 A dead child born 29 Jan 1701 Another dead child born 2 April 1702 Elizabeth born 14 Dec 1710 Phebe Hill born 17 July 1746 Darius Hill born 4 Dec 1749 p. 230 lists Darius Hill’s children as: Darius born 23 July 1772 Arden born 22 Dec 1775 Sarah born 3 Sept 1778 Elias born 22 Dec 1780 Rachel born 9 march 1784 John Hill, Jr. born _________ p. 122 mentions John Hill Jr. married Abigail Willcokfun 21 Feb 1738/39. p. 130 lists John Hill, Jr. children as: John Hill born 3 Feb 1725/26 Eliezor Hill born 21 Oct 1727 Martha Hill born 21 Jan 1730 Seth Hill born 20 Oct 1724 Bennoni Hill born 9 June 1736; d. 21 Nov 1737 Mary Hill born 28 Sept 1732: (p. 122 notes Mary, daughter of John Hill, Jr. died 12 Nov. 1733. But, p. 122 says Jane Hill, wife of John Hill, Jr. d. 2 Nov. 1732 Note: Obviously, two or more John Hill men are being mentioned and this needs to be worked out. Occupation: Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Windsor, A Facsimile of the 1892 Edition. Somersworth; New Hampshire Publishing Company, 1976., p. 183 notes that Luke in 1667 took charge of the Rivulet Ferry for 12 pounds per year besides what he gets from travelers and persons by night. Arpil 17, 1667: “When the freemen met for choice of deputies, Luke Hill made a sad complaint that if the town would not add to the sum set him for keeping the ferry, at the former meeting, he must leave the ferry; and his wife came in and sadly bemoaned their condition. Whereupon it was voted that they would add the other 3 pounds as it was before.” Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Windsor, A Facsimile of the 1892 Edition. Somersworth; New Hampshire Publishing Company, 1976., p. 183 Sept. 28, 1667 “Voted that the town should be at cost to procure a new rope for the ferry, because Like Hil is not able to be at the cost himself. Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Windsor, A Facsimile of the 1892 Edition. Somersworth; New Hampshire Publishing Company, 1976., p. 183 May 11, 1669. The town voted a clause of an agreement for John Willington to keep the Rivulet Ferry and that “He is also to have the use of the cellar, which the town has now bought of Luke Hill. Stiles, Henry R. The History of Ancient Windsor, A Facsimile of the 1892 Edition. Somersworth; New Hampshire Publishing Company, 1976., p. 186. Property: Barber, Lucius I, MD. A Record and Documentary History of Simsbury 1643-1888. Simsbury, Connecticut; The Abigail Phelps Chapter Daughters of the American Revolution, 1931, p. 28, 30-31 notes that the Colonial Records Vol. I, p 247 mentions that Luke Hill was one of the Windsor men who were granted land at Massaco in 1660 at Hopmeadow, but that no permanent settlements were made there except for Capt Cook until 1664. The Colonial Records Vol. I, p. 161 note that the land had been purchased from Manahonnooset and other Indians in the late 1640s. Barber, Lucius I, MD. A Record and Documentary History of Simsbury 1643-1888. Simsbury, Connecticut; The Abigail Phelps Chapter Daughters of the American Revolution, 1931, p. 477-478 notes that Simsbury was the second Connecticut town. In April 1642 the Court granted the Governor and Mr Haines the liberty to dispose of the Tunis River area called Massacowe to men of Windsor (Wyndsor). Then ca. 1643, John Griffen and Michael Humphry opened a tar and turpentine manufacturing operation. Griffen became the first settler of the are. But, Mannahonosee (A Massaco Indian) started a fire that burned most of Griffen’s manufactured tar. The Court imposed a fine that Mannahonosee couldn’t pay and therefore they were holding him. His tribe made a deal that the tribe lands for his freedom. Following that, in October 1668, 25 men met in Windsor to settle the issue of dividing this land, and within two years, some were settled on the land. The Court return of 1669 shows that Luke Hill was one of those “inhabitants” of Massaco. The area was made an Appendix to Windsor, and in 1670 it was named Simsbury. Barber, Lucius I, MD. A Record and Documentary History of Simsbury 1643-1888. Simsbury, Connecticut; The Abigail Phelps Chapter Daughters of the American Revolution, 1931, p. 140-141 notes that after Simsbury was established a meeting house wasn’t immediately built because of a conflict over where to build it and the fact that the Indians burned the town. But, on May 5, 1671 a meeting was held and the town decided to build the meeting house at Hope meadow of Luke Hill’s property. “Luke Hill then resided on the lot now occupied by Dr. LI Barker, and the spot selected was probably on the west side of the highway…” [pks note: this probably means the 1931 owner was Barker]. This was a center area of the town, and all the people lived on either side of the River during Luke’s time. Some at the meeting disagreed with the decision, and at a second meeting a Mr. Stone was selected to pick a new site - which he did. But, on March 13, 1674, there was another meeting and again Luke Hill’s site was chosen. However, that agreement was overturned June 8, 1674. [pks note: where the meeting house was actually built is unknown to me] Death: Luke died in Simsbury, Hartford, Connecticut in 1696, four years after his wife, Mary, had died in Simsbury, Hartford, Connecticut in 1692.

Leo in my previous email, I made a mistake on Gail's name. It is Gail Nglies. Wadene

In reply to: It=92s certainly been an interesting 48 hours. Leo, I saw your info on this mailing list. Joseph Hill was my great grandfather. HE was married three times. His first to Mira Lee, second to my great grandmother Sarah (Tucker) LEwis Smith. It was her third marriage also. My grandmother Isabel (Artie Bell ) Hill was a half sister to your Elgin G. who married Parthena. I have a lot of Hill info. Joseph's grandfparents were John and Mary Causby Hill who moved from Rhea County, TN to Cedar Co. Mo abt 1840. They had a large family and most of the children moved to Cedar Co. Also. Joseph and Mira came from Madison Co. Ala. in early 1850's. they later moved to Barry Co. where apparently Mira died. HE married Sarah August 1874, and they had two daughters Nancy Catherine born 1875, and my grandmother Isabel born 1879. Sarah divorced Joseph early 1881 after he apparently left and moved to Ozark County, Missouri . He married third time to Martha Cochrum. He died abt 1905 in Ozark County. I have been corresponding with another great granddaughter of Joseph's thru his son Anderson R. Hill. who was a brother to Elgin. I will look up her email address and send it to you. I can send you a genealogy report if you want it. Wadene Bennett Tulsa, Ok.

All, It’s certainly been an interesting 48 hours. First off, I want to thank all that wrote privately with words of support. But I want to especially thank those several folks that told me that my little tale was inspiring enough to encourage them to continue looking for their ancestors even though, like me, they hit brick wall after brick wall. Those were very very heartwarming emails to receive. I’m not ashamed to publicly say that a ‘misty eye’ occurred now and then when reading those emails. Thank you. Now on to this tale… I joined the Navy out of high school and went off to a ship that was homeported out of Yokosuka Japan. Christmas time 1970 found me amongst the crowd of sailors at the Post Exchange in Yokohama during “men’s night” – supposedly so the men could buy their wives and children gifts without giving the “secret gift” away. There was a drawing – I won a girl’s bicycle. Not needing a bicycle as a 20 year-old – especially a girl’s bike – I sold it to some sailor for $20. I probably had more than a few drinks on the $20. Fast forward about 20 years. Washington State started a lottery and I “invested” $5 twice a week when the prize was more than 2-3 million – figuring that just a measly million or two wasn’t enough to justify the ‘investment’. One Wednesday I had a meeting in the evening. My young daughter copied down the results of the 7 pm drawing and left it on the side table at my easy chair. I got home from the meeting and compared the numbers on my lotto ticket to the numbers Jennifer had written down. Let me tell you that should you ever be fortunate enough to hold a winning lotto ticket in one hand and a list of the winning numbers in the other – they will flash just a brightly as the gaudiest Las Vegas neon sign! I don’t remember exactly what the first 5 numbers were – doesn’t matter, they matched. But that doggoned sixth digit – sigh. My ticket said 44. The winning number drawn was 42. Two stinking digits off of a $6 million lotto prize. The ~$750 consolation prize was certainly worth the 2 hour drive to the nearest state lotto office – but it would never be as nice as having that last number be two digits lower. This entire sordid tale to make the point that my “luck” has never been spectacular. But you’ve either known people or have heard of people with fantastic luck. I don’t know what the prize pool is worth this Saturday night here in Texas, but maybe I should go “invest’ $5 just in case. Why should I do that? Please read on. If you remember my tale from my posting called Serendipitous Find from Thursday: “Now… Dad was born near Golden Missouri and they apparently migrated to Washington in 1888. Leo E’s father – my grandfather - apparently died sometime in 1889 – we believe of an accident. Granny Perphene, re-married after my Hill grandfather died – She married a Herbert Dart. But, ass-u-ming that granny and grandpa hill were close to the same age - ± a few years – that means that Grandpa Hill was born sometime between 1855 and 1865.” Then my post where I related what my 92 year old sister-in-law had to say about middle names and how they were changed for reasons unknown. Add in the typos in the 1958 “History of the Lewis River Valley” book and things started adding up. Granny Perphene – my grandmother – apparently was named at birth Perthena but later was called Perphene – probably pronounced nearly the same. A bit more research on Friday resulted in finding the marriage link that my niece mentioned in the phone conversation from Thursday night. Grandmother and Grandfather were married – according to this link - http://www.rootsweb.com/~mobarry/data/MarBookF_m-z.htm - 20 - Strait, Parthena A. - Hill, Elgin - Oct. 10, 1886 - Ernest Klenn, J.P. As you can see, “Parthena” and “Perthena” aren’t so far off – so it’s most likely the same woman as my grandmother. And that fits with the family records from out in Washington. My father was born 10 months and 2 days later - 08/12/1887. Elgin – now he’s another kettle of fish. Google all ya want and there ain’t enough to spit at on a hot Texas summer day! So we approached it from a different avenue. Perthena. From my cousin Dick Strait – http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/STRAIGHT/1997-06/0866330482 James Strait born 28 Aug 1798, Virginia, occupation: farmer, married ABT 1820, in Brown Co., OH, Perthena Hayes, born 9 Jan 1800, Virginia, (daughter of Benjamin Hayes and Sarah Pindell) died 5 Jun 1875, Harrison Co., MO, buried: Fairview Cm., Harrison Co., MO. James died 31 Aug 1884, Harrison Co., MO, buried: Fairview Cm., Harrison Co., MO.2 Then: - III. Eli Strait born 23 Aug 1824, Washington Twp., Brown Co., OH, occupation: farmer/miller, married 13 Aug 1846, in Wabash Co., IN, Mary Ellen Sigler, born 8 Sep 1825, Ross Co., OH, died 30 Dec 1896, Cowlitz Co., WA, buried: Lone Pine Cm., Cowlitz Co., WA. Eli died JAN 1921, Cowlitz Co., WA, buried: Lone Pine Cm., Cowlitz Co., WA. Then from: http://www.lewisriver.com/pt2-page4.html “STRAIT, ELI Eli and Mary Strait with their children and grandchildren settled on Lewis River, where Woodland Park now stands, in 1889. They bought the place from Charley and John Page. Their children were Homer, Eugene, Perphene (Aunt Attene) and Laura. Homer and Louisa Straits children were: Alvin, Amos, Clemetine, Alf, Addie and Vesta. Eugene (Gene) never married Aunt Attena married Elvin Hill, their son, Leo, now lives in Woodland and is married to Thelma Eaton Hill, daughter of Courtney Eaton.” So we have an unbroken chain from me back to James Strait on my father’s mother’s side. We see where grandmother Perthena got her name – from her grandmother – my gg grandmother. We also see how they are tied into Missouri – albeit in a county in the northwestern part of the state instead of the southwestern corner. Connecting more dots. So on my Friday searching I kept running into Elgin G. Hill – especially here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mbonsal/hill/hillwilliamc.html And then an additional link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~modade/dadehill.html Right at the very top is a listing of one Elgin Gernade HILL was born 1817 in Rhea County, Tennessee. He died 1881 in Fannin County, Texas. Elgin married (1) Didamy about 1840 in Missouri. So once again a phone call to my 92 y/o SiL to see if she knew the G in my grandfather’s name was Gernade. The answer? Yes, she was pretty sure that it was. Spelled how? Don’t know. Grenade, Granade or Gernade? Could be any or the three. So let’s go with Gernade for arguments sake. Any idea where our branch of the Hill’s came from? Not sure – but thought Tennessee. Tenuous, but all I have to go on. So back to the Dade/Hill link. Most of these folks were born in Tennessee before they moved west to Missouri – Cedar and Dade Counties. These two counties were in place by the 1840’s and remain so today. OK – back to the Strait side of the family at this link: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/WACOWLIT/2004-02/1075699793 Just before my name at the bottom is Granny’s name and her husband - Elgin Grenade Hill d. 27 Mar 1889 - Married: 10 Oct 1886 in: Missouri. OK – consistent with family lore – Elgin died in Washington State – Now I have a date. Marriage date consistent with other records. Once more to Perthena: F Child 7 Perthena Ann Strait also known as: Perphene died at age: 90 Born: 23 Dec 1863 in: Livingston Co., MO. Livingston County IS NOT close to Cedar and Dade counties. But people to move around – so the connection is at least in the same state. Once more back to this link: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mbonsal/hill/hillwilliamc.html Near the bottom we have: 3. JOSEPH H3 HILL (WILLIAM C.2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1828 in Rhea County, Tennessee. He married MIRA ELIZABETH LEE Abt. 1848 in Owens Cross Roads, Alabama. Children of JOSEPH HILL and MIRA LEE are: i. ELIZABETH A4 HILL, b. Abt. 1850. ii. MARY A HILL, b. Abt. 1852. iii. MARGARET G HILL, b. Abt. 1854. iv. ELGIN G HILL, b. Abt. 1856, Cedar County, Missouri. v. MARTHA J HILL, b. Abt. 1859, Cedar County, Missouri. As you can see, child #4 is Elgin G. Hill. Birth year just about right from my earlier supposition from Perthena’s birth year. We also have a Gernade namesake in the same family tree – without mapping it on paper it appears to be an uncle – from a generation earlier Perthena was 22 years, 9 months old when she married Elgin. Elgin was about 29-30 years old – IF this is the same Elgin – at marriage. More dots. Barry County MO is two counties due south of Cedar County and only one county due south from Dade county. My father was born in Barry County. Confirmation. I’ve gotta see if I can get a death certificate from Cowlitz County Washington for Elgin. NO – NO – NO! It CAN’T be this Serendipitous – can it? After years of frustration – can it be so simple as to fall into a complete family tree like this? If this doesn’t pan out then it will be just another false hope and brick wall. But if this turns out to be verifiable and true… Stunned would not be too strong of a word to use. So… Am I this lucky? Do I need to go buy a lotto ticket? And please – forgive me if I haven’t strung the logic together so that it is easily followed. Any (potential) cousins reading this thesis? Best to all, Leo Carl Hill Veteran. Patriot. Democrat.

I am posting this response about Luke Hill to the list. -- Aaron From : ervin leifheit <ervin85374@cox.net> Sent : Friday, August 25, 2006 4:42 AM To : "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> Subject : Re: Luke Hill (1613-1696) Luke Hill was born in Eng. and died in Simsbury, Hartford Co, Ct. He had 8 children, most born in Windsor and 2 born in Farmington. He ran the ferry in Windsor in 1667. Married Mary (Hoyt, Hout, Huit, Hart) in Windsor, CT in 1651. Will share what I have. Ervin Leifheit: ervin85374@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <HILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: Luke Hill (1613-1696) I am wondering if anyone knows about Luke Hill (1613-1696). He apparently lived and died in England. http://www.ysearch.org/search_view.asp?uid=FNEJQ&viewuid=2FJJJ&p=0 Aaron Hill Salem, Oregon

I would like to find out how many of my ancestore might have been listed in this. They were from England, I think Mel www.iowaghosttowns.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <HILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: [HILL-L] Numbers of Immigrants with the HILL Surname and Ports of Departure Numbers of Immigrants with the HILL Surname from Ancestry's US Immigration Collection Ports of Departure/Total Number Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland 2734 Liverpool, England 2138 Aspinwall, Panama 411 London, England 314 Glasgow, Scotland 297 Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland 257 ==== HILL Mailing List ==== Thank you for your support of The HILL-L Discussion List. Please post a HILL research query so we will all know who you are looking for. We have approximately 750 researchers subscribed!

Leo Hill <leochill@yahoo.com> wrote:Yadda-Yadda-Yadda Well, ain't it really serendipitous that http://www.whitepages.com/ work so well. I looked up my 9 year older niece's phone and gave them a call just now. Surprise, surprise, surprise as Gomer used to say. My 92 year old sister-in-law - it's hard to think of a 92 year old woman as a SiL - was there and her mind is a sharp as a tack. We chatted for about 20 minutes and here's what was said. Low and behold the "1958 Report of The Woodland History Committee" seems to have some "typo's" My dear niece found on-line a marriage certificate from my grandfather and grandmother when they were married in Missouri. And without telling me she found that my grandfather's name was not Elvin, but Elgin. And my father's middle name was originally Elgin but at some point he changed it to Ellis. Okie-dokie - We've got a grandfather named Elgin Hill and a father named Leo Elgin Hill at birth and changed later to Leo Ellis Hill. No reason why given, but my 1/2 brother also changed his middle name from Kenneth Jay to Kenneth Dwain - again for reasons unknown. Grandpa Elgin is buried in the Frank Able cemetery - but is not recorded properly. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wa/cowlitz/cemeteries/frankable.txt My SiL said that a baby last named Robbins was buried over Elgin. Look on the above link and there is a ROBBINS, Michael 12 Mar 1945 25 Mar 1947 Nina - my SiL - confirms that is the baby that is above my grandfather. Apparently when the 1958 history was being written they did explore the cemetery and did not explore the burial records in the Cowlitz county courthouse. So – even though the initial find wasn’t exactly correct, I have another tidbit of info to research – a marriage certificate from Missouri ca. 1880-85-ish. And who knows where that might lead? I might be a long lost cousin from some of you folks that have been concentrating on the Ohio/Kentucky/Tennessee areas prior to the Civil War. Still a-grinnin’ Leo Veteran. Patriot. Democrat.

A bit of background… I’d venture that most folks have parents that are – more or less – 20 to 30 years older than themselves. Most grandparents I’d also venture are 40 to 50 years older than their grandchildren. I’m not typical in that sense. My mother was ~ 41 ½ years old when I was born. Daddy? He was 22 years older than Mom. All I can say is that it was a cold, snowy winter in 1949-1950 with little else to do… Needless to say I am an only child of from this parentage. An oddity – I had a ½ brother that was actually 11 months older than my mother. One niece is 9 years older than me. The other niece from my ½ brother’s first marriage is 19 years older. An uncle at birth – how about that! Regardless, my father’s birthday was August 12, 1887. His name was Leo E. Hill. For some now mysterious reason, Mom and I were – and my ½ brother and his 2nd wife were never sure of his middle name. Best they could come up with was either Ellis or Elsworth – but never sure. Now… Dad was born near Golden Missouri and they apparently migrated to Washington in 1888. Leo E’s father – my grandfather - apparently died sometime in 1889 – we believe of an accident. Granny Perphene, re-married after my Hill grandfather died – She married a Herbert Dart. But, ass-u-ming that granny and grandpa hill were close to the same age - ± a few years – that means that Grandpa Hill was born sometime between 1855 and 1865. Now, here’s the point of this wandering tale… For nearly 56 years I have never known what grandpa Hill’s first name was. I was completely stymied in my search. Mom didn’t know. My ½ bro didn’t know. No family bible. No pictures. No clues to be found. Serendipitous – “come upon or found by accident; fortuitous.” Google is an amazing tool. I’m in the market for a new laptop and was doing some research for that at lunch yesterday. Just for giggles and grins I searched for “Leo Hill” as I have some postings to other groups and I wanted to see what turned up. Well… Near the bottom of the hits were these three: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wa/cowlitz/cemeteries/lonepine2.txt and http://www.lewisriver.com/pt2-page2.html and http://www.lewisriver.com/pt2-page4.html So here is the key passage – and since this is a text only list, I can’t bold and underline so I’ve used >>and<< for highlighting the pertinent words. “STRAIT, ELI Eli and Mary Strait with their children and grandchildren settled on Lewis River, where Woodland Park now stands, in 1889. They bought the place from Charley and John Page. Their children were Homer, Eugene, >>Perphene (Aunt Attene)<< and Laura. Homer and Louisa Straits children were: Alvin, Amos, Clemetine, Alf, Addie and Vesta. Eugene (Gene) never married >>Aunt Attena married >>>>Elvin Hill,<<<< their son, Leo, {my father} now lives in Woodland and is married to Thelma Eaton Hill, {my mother} daughter of Courtney Eaton.<< >>Aunt Attena Hill later married Herbert Dart.<< Laura Strait married Benjamin Hannah, brother of Mat and Hanson (Hank) Hannah. Their granddaughter Flossie Taylor Davis supplied much of this date. Leo Hill and William Hannah also helped. William is Hand Hannah's grandson and Jack's son. William says that Aunt Attena was a favorite among Ariel neighbors for her many kindness'. She not only raised her own family, but took her nephew Eli Burton under her wing and raised him.” So there it is. My grandfather’s first name. Now, I don’t play the lottery, nor am I a betting man, but I’d lay a dollar to a donut that my father’s middle name was Elvin – not Ellis or Elsworth. What do ya’ think? Most of this list seems to be a lot about “I’m looking” and not so much of the “I found”. So here’s an “I found” story that I hope brings a bit of a smile to your lips – ‘cause my mile-wide grin hasn’t subsided yet! Best, Leo Carl Hill Veteran. Patriot. Democrat.

My Hill ancestors were from France. Do you have any information on that? Thanks, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <HILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: [HILL-L] Numbers of Immigrants with the HILL Surname and Ports of Departure : Numbers of Immigrants with the HILL Surname : from Ancestry's US Immigration Collection : : Ports of Departure/Total Number : : Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland 2734 : Liverpool, England 2138 : Aspinwall, Panama 411 : London, England 314 : Glasgow, Scotland 297 : Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland 257 : : : : ==== HILL Mailing List ==== : Thank you for your support of The HILL-L Discussion List. Please post : a HILL research query so we will all know who you are looking for. We : have approximately 750 researchers subscribed! : :

Numbers of Immigrants with the HILL Surname from Ancestry's US Immigration Collection Ports of Departure/Total Number Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland 2734 Liverpool, England 2138 Aspinwall, Panama 411 London, England 314 Glasgow, Scotland 297 Glasgow, Scotland and Moville, Ireland 257

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I am wondering if anyone knows about Luke Hill (1613-1696). He apparently lived and died in England. http://www.ysearch.org/search_view.asp?uid=FNEJQ&viewuid=2FJJJ&p=0 Aaron Hill Salem, Oregon

Aaron, I have a Luke Hill (1613-1696) born in England and died in Hartford, CT. He married Mary Hewitt, May 06, 1651. The only child I know of from this marriage is also named Luke, b. 1660/61, Hartford, CT and d. 1740, New Haven, CT. The elder Luke is believed to be my 7G Grandfather. I have seen no documentation on this lineage. The information I have was given to me by other researchers without sources. I'm still a few generations away from proving my connection to this line. My earliest proven Hill ancestor is my 3G GF Asaph King Hill (1802, Washington Co., NY - 1883, Scriba, NY). Contact me off-list if this is the line you're looking for. Judy in Ocala -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Hill [mailto:mrmayor@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:44 PM To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HILL-L] Luke Hill (1613-1696) I am wondering if anyone knows about Luke Hill (1613-1696). He apparently lived and died in England. http://www.ysearch.org/search_view.asp?uid=FNEJQ&viewuid=2FJJJ&p=0 Aaron Hill Salem, Oregon ==== HILL Mailing List ==== Where do you send queries?...send them to HILL-L@rootsweb.com Where do you send unsub and sub commands?... send them to HILL-L-Request@Rootsweb.com

I tried the big picture of everything I know (think) about my HILL ancestors and didn’t get any answers, so let’s go one step at a time. Grandmother, Martha Elizabeth Hill, said that she was born in Tupelo, MS in 1877. She said that her parents both died and she and her younger brother Thomas P. Hill came to live with an uncle in Nacogdoches Co., TX. The uncle died and she went to live with a friend, Doke Crawford, near Appelby, TX, about 1900. I knew the Crawford family and interviewed Doke Jr. about 1985. He told me that Betty came to live with them when he was about 3 (1898). He didn’t know anything about her past. I’ve checked all of the HILLs in Nacogdoches Co. and found no clues. Perhaps the uncle was her mother’s brother. I think that Martha Elizabeth and Thomas P. Hill were children of William T. Hill and Susan . Does anyone have any info on William T. Hill and Susan _____, who were in Tupelo, MS about 1880-1890? Vaughn