So, all this nonsense of the DNA was just that: nonsense to earn a buck? B Rgds, Scotty Hartigan

Please explain why you think DNA testing is a waste of time and money. Thousands of people are participating in these studies and many have found connections World wide. It is a viable and important tool for genealogical research. Also please note that you are a member of a List. As such, you do not get to pick and choose which messages are delivered to you. Take Care -- Paul CAPEHART Rootsweb Listowner Researching: VA - WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS,TALBOT,TATE,EVANS NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, MORRIS,.CAPEHART,MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prsmith/ On Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:27 AM, helen sabin [SMTP:hsabin@cox.net] wrote: > These are a waste of time and money!! DO NOT send me any > more announcements > of this nature - you are so full of baloney! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of FS Hill > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:56 PM > To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! > > As of August 23, 2006 Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation > is offering a > coupon for Relative Genetics (a commercial DNA test lab) for > all > participants. With the coupon you can purchase a 26 marker Y > chromosome > test, or a mitochondrial DNA test for $95 (typically $180- > $220, depending on > the lab). Not sure how long this offer is valid. If you have > questions or > wish to request the discount coupon, contact > > Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation > 2480 S Main Ste 200 > Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 > Phone: 1-800-344-7643 > Email: info@smgf.org > > Web Site: www.smgf.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release > Date: 9/6/2006 >

AGAIN - the male tests may be useful but the female is TOO VAGUE and generalized for any worth in genealogy. Don't believe me - send the testers YOUR female DNA and see what I mean. You learn best from life's lessons. Go ahead, I dare you to waste your time and money! HS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Stewart-Reeder" <kyseeker@comcast.net> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [HILL] DNA Research > My husband did the test and he matched a gentleman who had come to the > same conclusion as I did. We could not find any proof of parents except > this elderly couple would come 40 miles in the 1700's to be the sponsors > for the baptisms for this couples children so we knew they had to be > related, but now we know we are on the right track as they matched on a 37 > marker test. Now my husband's family is really interested in their family > history, enough to travel 1500 miles to attend a family reunion in 2004. > > My brother matched 2 men who were from Muhlenberg Co., KY, and our > ancestor was born in Muhlenberg Co. but had moved to Livingston Co. but I > had figured his father and the 4 older men of Muhlenberg Co. were probably > brothers and now we know we are also on the right track there. I knew one > further generation they did not have from the 1852 Livingston Co. Clerk's > ledger book. We are now looking for descendants of the other two so they > can also test. > > These tests have brought a lot of people all interested in genealogy > together where we might not have ever been if it was not for the testing. > I ordered my own mtDNA test last night. > > I am so glad we all have freedom of speech and a keyboard with a delete > button. > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: PRSmith <prsmith@houston.rr.com> >> Your opinions are noted and you are certainly entitled to >> them. You also have the right not to participate in these >> studies. Your opinions are not shared by those who >> participate in these studies, however, and they have a right >> to express their opinions and to discuss them with others. >> Please feel free to delete any messages that offend you -- >> they are, after all, innocuous compared to those advertising >> many other products and services we encounter on a regular >> basis and they are on-topic since the posters are searching >> for their Hill ancestry. >> >> Take Care -- Paul >> CAPEHART Rootsweb Listowner >> Researching: >> VA - >> WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS,TALBOT,TATE,EVANS >> NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, >> MORRIS,.CAPEHART,MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prsmith/ >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:56 PM, pop.west.cox.net >> [SMTP:hsabin@cox.net] wrote: >> > The span of years that are transmitted to testees is >> > worthless for genealogy >> > research. I can go back four generations from me and to say >> > my ancestors >> > are from England tells me you have gone back so far as to >> > make any research >> > worthless. Then to say you cannot tell me specifically >> which >> > country of >> > origin my ancestors came from - is ridiculous and makes any >> > research >> > worthless. Then to say, I probably shouldn't contact the >> ONE >> > person that >> > has my same haplo group makes these tests worthless! All >> > together - I still >> > think its a FRAUD!! >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "PRSmith" <prsmith@houston.rr.com> >> > To: <hill@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM >> > Subject: Re: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! >> > >> > >> > > Please explain why you think DNA testing is a waste of >> > > time >> > > and money. Thousands of people are participating in these >> > > studies and many have found connections World wide. It is >> > > a >> > > viable and important tool for genealogical research. >> > > >> > > Also please note that you are a member of a List. As >> such, >> > > >> > > you do not get to pick and choose which messages are >> > > delivered >> > > to you. >> > > >> > > Take Care -- Paul >> > > CAPEHART Rootsweb Listowner >> > > Researching: >> > > VA - >> > > WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS,TALBOT,TATE,EVANS >> > > NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, >> > > MORRIS,.CAPEHART,MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW >> > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prsmith/ >> > > >> > > On Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:27 AM, helen sabin >> > > [SMTP:hsabin@cox.net] wrote: >> > >> These are a waste of time and money!! DO NOT send me any >> > >> more announcements >> > >> of this nature - you are so full of baloney! >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -----Original Message----- >> > >> From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill- >> > >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> > >> Of FS Hill >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:56 PM >> > >> To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com >> > >> Subject: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! >> > >> >> > >> As of August 23, 2006 Sorenson Molecular Genealogy >> > > Foundation >> > >> is offering a >> > >> coupon for Relative Genetics (a commercial DNA test lab) >> > >> for >> > >> all >> > >> participants. With the coupon you can purchase a 26 >> marker >> > >> Y >> > >> chromosome >> > >> test, or a mitochondrial DNA test for $95 (typically >> $180- >> > >> >> > >> $220, depending on >> > >> the lab). Not sure how long this offer is valid. If you >> > > have >> > >> questions or >> > >> wish to request the discount coupon, contact >> > >> >> > >> Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation >> > >> 2480 S Main Ste 200 >> > >> Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 >> > >> Phone: 1-800-344-7643 >> > >> Email: info@smgf.org >> > >> >> > >> Web Site: www.smgf.org >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > > without >> > >> the quotes in >> > >> the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> HILL- >> > >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > >> the >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > >> Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release >> > >> Date: 9/6/2006 >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > > without the quotes >> > > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release >> > Date: 9/6/2006 >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HILL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

You can have YOUR female dna tested but it will come back like mine - too vague to be of any use! The male is the ONLY one of use for genealogy. HS ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan smathers" <susan56@tampabay.rr.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [HILL] DNA Testing A Fraud > Aaron, > I have a cousin, that her brother is doing the DNA, testing, we are > searching for native american ancestery. I don't know a lot about DNA > testing, but what I have read, I think it is great. > I am also related to a Hill family my grandfather was James Ervin Hill, I > have run across a brick wall, and if it was possible, I would have my DNA > checked. By possible I mean I have other things going on, that need my > attention. Keep up the good work. > susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> > To: <hill@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:07 PM > Subject: [HILL] DNA Testing A Fraud > > >> DNA research is not a fraud, no matter what 'your opinion' is. I have >> been >> connected with at least two lines (cousins) I never knew about. >> Especially >> for those at a significant roadblock, it can be helpful. And I enjoy the >> science behind it. Just because you don't fully understand how something >> works doesn't mean you should poo-poo it so harshly. >> >> Aaron >> >> PS If DNA testing is such a fraud, why is paternity testing so prevalent? >> >> >> From: "pop.west.cox.net" <hsabin@cox.net> >> Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com >> To: <prsmith@houston.rr.com>, <hill@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! >> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:55:39 -0700 >> >> The span of years that are transmitted to testees is worthless for >> genealogy >> research. I can go back four generations from me and to say my ancestors >> are from England tells me you have gone back so far as to make any >> research >> worthless. Then to say you cannot tell me specifically which country of >> origin my ancestors came from - is ridiculous and makes any research >> worthless. Then to say, I probably shouldn't contact the ONE person that >> has my same haplo group makes these tests worthless! All together - I >> still >> think its a FRAUD!! >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

The male tests may be more specific than the women's tests but mine came back as to be worthless for genealogy research. I hope my uncles DNA tests come in more detailed than a haplo group that followed the ice age as it receded. That is pretty general you have to admit! HS -----Original Message----- From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Stewart-Reeder Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:40 AM To: hill@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HILL] DNA Research My husband did the test and he matched a gentleman who had come to the same conclusion as I did. We could not find any proof of parents except this elderly couple would come 40 miles in the 1700's to be the sponsors for the baptisms for this couples children so we knew they had to be related, but now we know we are on the right track as they matched on a 37 marker test. Now my husband's family is really interested in their family history, enough to travel 1500 miles to attend a family reunion in 2004. My brother matched 2 men who were from Muhlenberg Co., KY, and our ancestor was born in Muhlenberg Co. but had moved to Livingston Co. but I had figured his father and the 4 older men of Muhlenberg Co. were probably brothers and now we know we are also on the right track there. I knew one further generation they did not have from the 1852 Livingston Co. Clerk's ledger book. We are now looking for descendants of the other two so they can also test. These tests have brought a lot of people all interested in genealogy together where we might not have ever been if it was not for the testing. I ordered my own mtDNA test last night. I am so glad we all have freedom of speech and a keyboard with a delete button. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: PRSmith <prsmith@houston.rr.com> > Your opinions are noted and you are certainly entitled to > them. You also have the right not to participate in these > studies. Your opinions are not shared by those who > participate in these studies, however, and they have a right > to express their opinions and to discuss them with others. > Please feel free to delete any messages that offend you -- > they are, after all, innocuous compared to those advertising > many other products and services we encounter on a regular > basis and they are on-topic since the posters are searching > for their Hill ancestry. > > Take Care -- Paul > CAPEHART Rootsweb Listowner > Researching: > VA - > WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS,TALBOT,TATE,EVANS > NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, > MORRIS,.CAPEHART,MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prsmith/ > > > > On Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:56 PM, pop.west.cox.net > [SMTP:hsabin@cox.net] wrote: > > The span of years that are transmitted to testees is > > worthless for genealogy > > research. I can go back four generations from me and to say > > my ancestors > > are from England tells me you have gone back so far as to > > make any research > > worthless. Then to say you cannot tell me specifically > which > > country of > > origin my ancestors came from - is ridiculous and makes any > > research > > worthless. Then to say, I probably shouldn't contact the > ONE > > person that > > has my same haplo group makes these tests worthless! All > > together - I still > > think its a FRAUD!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "PRSmith" <prsmith@houston.rr.com> > > To: <hill@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! > > > > > > > Please explain why you think DNA testing is a waste of > > > time > > > and money. Thousands of people are participating in these > > > studies and many have found connections World wide. It is > > > a > > > viable and important tool for genealogical research. > > > > > > Also please note that you are a member of a List. As > such, > > > > > > you do not get to pick and choose which messages are > > > delivered > > > to you. > > > > > > Take Care -- Paul > > > CAPEHART Rootsweb Listowner > > > Researching: > > > VA - > > > WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS,TALBOT,TATE,EVANS > > > NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, > > > MORRIS,.CAPEHART,MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prsmith/ > > > > > > On Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:27 AM, helen sabin > > > [SMTP:hsabin@cox.net] wrote: > > >> These are a waste of time and money!! DO NOT send me any > > >> more announcements > > >> of this nature - you are so full of baloney! > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill- > > >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > >> Of FS Hill > > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:56 PM > > >> To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com > > >> Subject: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! > > >> > > >> As of August 23, 2006 Sorenson Molecular Genealogy > > > Foundation > > >> is offering a > > >> coupon for Relative Genetics (a commercial DNA test lab) > > >> for > > >> all > > >> participants. With the coupon you can purchase a 26 > marker > > >> Y > > >> chromosome > > >> test, or a mitochondrial DNA test for $95 (typically > $180- > > >> > > >> $220, depending on > > >> the lab). Not sure how long this offer is valid. If you > > > have > > >> questions or > > >> wish to request the discount coupon, contact > > >> > > >> Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation > > >> 2480 S Main Ste 200 > > >> Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 > > >> Phone: 1-800-344-7643 > > >> Email: info@smgf.org > > >> > > >> Web Site: www.smgf.org > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without > > >> the quotes in > > >> the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> HILL- > > >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > >> the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >> Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release > > >> Date: 9/6/2006 > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release > > Date: 9/6/2006 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did the MtDNA (women) tests and the test results came back as a haplo group that came from England. These results go so far back as to be worthless for genealogy research. Thus - my time and money are wasted. I am complaining as the advertising leads one to believe that more specific results can be shown. In my case - this goes so far back as to be worthless and I encourage others NOT to waste their money. There have been some who are happy but a majority are not according to what I have seen on the different genealogy sites. I also had my 90 year old uncle do the males DNA and hopefully it will be more specific. If not - a waste of time and money! HS -----Original Message----- From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PsychSW@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:59 AM To: hill@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HILL] DNA Testing A Fraud In a message dated 9/7/2006 1:42:20 PM Central Standard Time, hsabin@cox.net writes: To say my ancestors came from England shows that thse tests are so far back as to be useless for genealogy research. Sorry, but I apparently came in on the middle of this, but what does the above mean? Tjhank you, Laura ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aaron - I fully understand how the DNA tests work much to your chagrin I hope, and your assumption is emotionally based -not factually based. To say my ancestors came from England shows that thse tests are so far back as to be useless for genealogy research. There are as many disgusted folks out there as satisfied as shown by the number of emails I have seen posted on ALL the boards and those that were sent to me. I am glad you got your information - for me they were worthless! HS riginal Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: [HILL] DNA Testing A Fraud > DNA research is not a fraud, no matter what 'your opinion' is. I have been > connected with at least two lines (cousins) I never knew about. Especially > for those at a significant roadblock, it can be helpful. And I enjoy the > science behind it. Just because you don't fully understand how something > works doesn't mean you should poo-poo it so harshly. > > Aaron > > PS If DNA testing is such a fraud, why is paternity testing so prevalent? > > > From: "pop.west.cox.net" <hsabin@cox.net> > Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com > To: <prsmith@houston.rr.com>, <hill@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! > Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:55:39 -0700 > > The span of years that are transmitted to testees is worthless for > genealogy > research. I can go back four generations from me and to say my ancestors > are from England tells me you have gone back so far as to make any > research > worthless. Then to say you cannot tell me specifically which country of > origin my ancestors came from - is ridiculous and makes any research > worthless. Then to say, I probably shouldn't contact the ONE person that > has my same haplo group makes these tests worthless! All together - I > still > think its a FRAUD!! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

The span of years that are transmitted to testees is worthless for genealogy research. I can go back four generations from me and to say my ancestors are from England tells me you have gone back so far as to make any research worthless. Then to say you cannot tell me specifically which country of origin my ancestors came from - is ridiculous and makes any research worthless. Then to say, I probably shouldn't contact the ONE person that has my same haplo group makes these tests worthless! All together - I still think its a FRAUD!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "PRSmith" <prsmith@houston.rr.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! > Please explain why you think DNA testing is a waste of time > and money. Thousands of people are participating in these > studies and many have found connections World wide. It is a > viable and important tool for genealogical research. > > Also please note that you are a member of a List. As such, > you do not get to pick and choose which messages are delivered > to you. > > Take Care -- Paul > CAPEHART Rootsweb Listowner > Researching: > VA - > WHITE,LIPSCOMB,HILL,JOHNSON,SAUNDERS,TALBOT,TATE,EVANS > NC - SMITH, BOSWELL, RHODES, > MORRIS,.CAPEHART,MARSHE, BRITT,SHAW > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prsmith/ > > On Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:27 AM, helen sabin > [SMTP:hsabin@cox.net] wrote: >> These are a waste of time and money!! DO NOT send me any >> more announcements >> of this nature - you are so full of baloney! >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of FS Hill >> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:56 PM >> To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! >> >> As of August 23, 2006 Sorenson Molecular Genealogy > Foundation >> is offering a >> coupon for Relative Genetics (a commercial DNA test lab) for >> all >> participants. With the coupon you can purchase a 26 marker Y >> chromosome >> test, or a mitochondrial DNA test for $95 (typically $180- >> $220, depending on >> the lab). Not sure how long this offer is valid. If you > have >> questions or >> wish to request the discount coupon, contact >> >> Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation >> 2480 S Main Ste 200 >> Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 >> Phone: 1-800-344-7643 >> Email: info@smgf.org >> >> Web Site: www.smgf.org >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without >> the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.0.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release >> Date: 9/6/2006 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

These are a waste of time and money!! DO NOT send me any more announcements of this nature - you are so full of baloney! -----Original Message----- From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of FS Hill Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:56 PM To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HILL] $95 DNA SPECIAL! As of August 23, 2006 Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is offering a coupon for Relative Genetics (a commercial DNA test lab) for all participants. With the coupon you can purchase a 26 marker Y chromosome test, or a mitochondrial DNA test for $95 (typically $180-$220, depending on the lab). Not sure how long this offer is valid. If you have questions or wish to request the discount coupon, contact Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation 2480 S Main Ste 200 Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 Phone: 1-800-344-7643 Email: info@smgf.org Web Site: www.smgf.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As of August 23, 2006 Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation is offering a coupon for Relative Genetics (a commercial DNA test lab) for all participants. With the coupon you can purchase a 26 marker Y chromosome test, or a mitochondrial DNA test for $95 (typically $180-$220, depending on the lab). Not sure how long this offer is valid. If you have questions or wish to request the discount coupon, contact Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation 2480 S Main Ste 200 Salt Lake City, Utah 84115 Phone: 1-800-344-7643 Email: info@smgf.org Web Site: www.smgf.org

This was not intended for you. There is no connection with your family. Aaron From: W71726@aol.com Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com To: hill@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HILL] Obituary of Martha Ann MARSH, wife of Henry N. HILL Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:46:55 EDT Thank you for sending me that information, however I see no connection. The Adline Maesh married John S. March. Their daughter Edith F. March married Thomas C. Gibson. Their daughter Eva Lee Gibson Married James David Hill, my GGGF. While I had several Enlow relatives that lived in Hardin Co, KY My James D. Hill was from Indiana. His sister had a farm in Iowa and James enlisted in the Iowa regiment sent to guard the Capitol in Little Rock AK. where he married Rhoda Jane Enlow ( they were married in Tularie, CA and homesteaded 110 acres in Chatworth, CA. Mel Hill (Woodward)

Thank you for sending me that information, however I see no connection. The Adline Maesh married John S. March. Their daughter Edith F. March married Thomas C. Gibson. Their daughter Eva Lee Gibson Married James David Hill, my GGGF. While I had several Enlow relatives that lived in Hardin Co, KY My James D. Hill was from Indiana. His sister had a farm in Iowa and James enlisted in the Iowa regiment sent to guard the Capitol in Little Rock AK. where he married Rhoda Jane Enlow ( they were married in Tularie, CA and homesteaded 110 acres in Chatworth, CA. Mel Hill (Woodward)

Obituary of Martha Ann MARSH, wife of Henry N. HILL THE MAXWELL TRIBUNE, Maxwell, Iowa, Thursday, January 19, 1905, page 1, column 5. "Obituary - Martha Ann Marsh was born in Hardin county, Ohio, May 13, 1832 and lived there with her parents until December 5, 1850, when she was united in marriage to Henry Hill. They moved to Iowa in 1856, arriving at Peoria City on July 4th of that year, but afterward moved to Jasper county and settled on a farm. Eleven children were born to Mr. and Mrs. Hill, four of whom survive. They are Mrs. James Chalmer, of Elwell; Mrs. D. Bacon, of Maxwell; Mrs. George Baird, of Peoria City, and J. C. Hill, of Earl, Mo. Henry Hill died March 31, 1875, leaving Mrs. Hill a widow with several small children. On August 17, 1875, Mrs. Hill was united in marriage to J. G. Kopf, who had five motherless children, and she cared for them just as tenderly as for her own, making no distinction between them. Mr. and Mrs. Kopf lived on the farm in Washington township, Polk county until the fall of 1896 when they moved to Maxwell, which place has been their home ever since. Mrs. Kopf was converted at the age of twelve years and joined the Methodist Episcopal church, but during the last twenty years of her life she has been a member of the Methodist Protestant church. She has always lived a consistent christian life and maintained a most lovable and unselfish character. Although she was an invalid for many years, she never thought of her own afflictions, but was always trying to do something that would be a benefit to others. She died January 14, 1905, age seventy-two years, eight months and one day. Her last days were full of trust in her Saviour**, and one of her parting phrases was "God's will be done." The funeral was held Monday at 1:00 p.m. in the M. E. church of this city, being in charge of Rev. A. Q. Gharrett, assisted by Rev. J. D. Sparks. Interment was made in Peoria City cemetery. The floral tributes were beautiful, for which the family desire to express their appreciation, and also to those who so kindly assisted them in their hours of sorrow." **Editorial note - spelling, grammar and punctuation from original newspaper article is used. BURIAL: Iowa Historical Library, Des Moines, Iowa. STORY COUNTY, IOWA GRAVE MARKER INSCRIPTIONS Geneal. * F 627. S8 V. 1-6, pages 1-368, V. 7-11 pages 369-792, V. II pages 793-1128; Indian Creek Township, Inc. City of Maxwell, Peoria Cemetery, page 497. SEC. - South Section, ROW - 4, SPACE - 9. HILL, Henry N. died Mar 31 1875 aged 44y 3m 24 d; SEC. - South Section, ROW - 4, SPACE - 8, KOPF, Martha** wife of J C (G) KOPF Mary 13 1832 - Jan 14 1905; SEC. - South Section, ROW - 4, SPACE - 12, HILL, Francis E. died Dec 21 1866 aged 4 days, Frances A. died Dec 22 1866 aged 5 days, children of H. N. and M. HILL; SEC. - South Section, ROW - 4, SPACE - 13, HILL, Daniel E. M. son of H N & M HILL died July 13 1862 aged 10 y 8m 1 da; SEC. - South Section, ROW - 4, SPACE - 17, HILL, Eliza M. dau of H N & M HILL d Aug 20 1858 aged 3 mo 3 d. **Editorial note - Martha Ann MARSH 1st married Henry HILL and 2nd John G. KOPF. http://iagenweb.org/boards/story/obituaries/index.cgi?review=78284 (This is my great-great-great grandmother.) -- Aaron Hill

Washington County, Ohio is in the southeastern section of the state and borders West Virginia. It is quite some distance from Campbell County, Kentucky. However, I am curious why you think these families may be connected. Aaron From: "ljcrain" <ljcrain@pgrb.com> Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HILL] John HILL and Mary CRANE & James HILL and Sarah TIDD Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:50:19 -0500 Is Washington county, OH near Campbell county, KY? We have found this family that we believe is my husband's ancestors. They lived in both OH and KY and the parents were born in Ireland. No proof exists to connect them to his known great great grandfather William B. Crain of TN, KY, and MO. Janet Crain 1810 I have found a likely match in the 1796-1809 Campbell County, Ky tax > lists, > William Crain. This William appears in the 1795 tax list with a > "tithable", William, Junior. > Also, genealogy of Cader Edwards tells this story; Robert and Cader > Edwards took part > in the battle of Fallen Timbers, June, 1794. "On this campaign, they made > the > acquaintance of Nimrod Crain, a noted scount for Gen. Wayne, and after > their discharge > from the army, on the invitation of young Crain, they visited him at his > father's home on > the bank of the Licking River, about one and half miles above its junction > with the Ohio. > Here Cader (Edwards) first met Elizabeth (Betsy) Crain, who was then a > beautiful girl of > about fifteen years old." > Nimrod also appears in the tax lists and is noted in one deliquent list > to have "removed > to Pendleton. He, along with William can be found there in 1810. Both > appear in the > 1820 Franklin census. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <HILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: [HILL] John HILL and Mary CRANE & James HILL and Sarah TIDD > According to DNA results, John HILL who married Mary CRANE and their son > Owen (b. 31 May 1822 in Marietta, Washington County, Ohio) are likely > related to James HILL and Sarah TIDD of Hardin County, Ohio, my earliest > known HILL ancestor. I am trying to find the connection between these > families. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > http://www.hilldna.com/4905.htm > http://www.hilldna.com/Group27.htm > http://www.hilldna.com/results.html > > Thanks. > > Aaron Hill > Salem, Oregon

Just the Crain/Crane name. The known gg grandfather had a daughter who disappears from our history named Mary. It could have been her. Or a daughter of the KY family. Just a real long shot. :-) Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [HILL] John HILL and Mary CRANE & James HILL and Sarah TIDD > Washington County, Ohio is in the southeastern section of the state and > borders West Virginia. It is quite some distance from Campbell County, > Kentucky. However, I am curious why you think these families may be > connected. > > Aaron > > > From: "ljcrain" <ljcrain@pgrb.com> > Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com > To: <hill@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [HILL] John HILL and Mary CRANE & James HILL and Sarah TIDD > Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 18:50:19 -0500 > > Is Washington county, OH near Campbell county, KY? > > We have found this family that we believe is my husband's ancestors. They > lived in both OH and KY and the parents were born in Ireland. No proof > exists to connect them to his known great great grandfather William B. > Crain > of TN, KY, and MO. > > Janet Crain > > > 1810 I have found a likely match in the 1796-1809 Campbell County, Ky > tax > > lists, > > William Crain. This William appears in the 1795 tax list with a > > "tithable", William, Junior. > > Also, genealogy of Cader Edwards tells this story; Robert and Cader > > Edwards took part > > in the battle of Fallen Timbers, June, 1794. "On this campaign, they > > made > > the > > acquaintance of Nimrod Crain, a noted scount for Gen. Wayne, and after > > their discharge > > from the army, on the invitation of young Crain, they visited him at his > > father's home on > > the bank of the Licking River, about one and half miles above its > junction > > with the Ohio. > > Here Cader (Edwards) first met Elizabeth (Betsy) Crain, who was then a > > beautiful girl of > > about fifteen years old." > > Nimrod also appears in the tax lists and is noted in one deliquent list > > to have "removed > > to Pendleton. He, along with William can be found there in 1810. Both > > appear in the > > 1820 Franklin census. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> > To: <HILL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:35 PM > Subject: [HILL] John HILL and Mary CRANE & James HILL and Sarah TIDD > > > > According to DNA results, John HILL who married Mary CRANE and their son > > Owen (b. 31 May 1822 in Marietta, Washington County, Ohio) are likely > > related to James HILL and Sarah TIDD of Hardin County, Ohio, my earliest > > known HILL ancestor. I am trying to find the connection between these > > families. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > http://www.hilldna.com/4905.htm > > http://www.hilldna.com/Group27.htm > > http://www.hilldna.com/results.html > > > > Thanks. > > > > Aaron Hill > > Salem, Oregon > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 > >

As soon as I get our DNA results, we may find we are related also - I keep watching your information and find it interesting. Helen Hill Sabin -----Original Message----- From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Hill Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 3:36 PM To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HILL] John HILL and Mary CRANE & James HILL and Sarah TIDD According to DNA results, John HILL who married Mary CRANE and their son Owen (b. 31 May 1822 in Marietta, Washington County, Ohio) are likely related to James HILL and Sarah TIDD of Hardin County, Ohio, my earliest known HILL ancestor. I am trying to find the connection between these families. Any help would be greatly appreciated. http://www.hilldna.com/4905.htm http://www.hilldna.com/Group27.htm http://www.hilldna.com/results.html Thanks. Aaron Hill Salem, Oregon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to DNA results, John HILL who married Mary CRANE and their son Owen (b. 31 May 1822 in Marietta, Washington County, Ohio) are likely related to James HILL and Sarah TIDD of Hardin County, Ohio, my earliest known HILL ancestor. I am trying to find the connection between these families. Any help would be greatly appreciated. http://www.hilldna.com/4905.htm http://www.hilldna.com/Group27.htm http://www.hilldna.com/results.html Thanks. Aaron Hill Salem, Oregon

Is Washington county, OH near Campbell county, KY? We have found this family that we believe is my husband's ancestors. They lived in both OH and KY and the parents were born in Ireland. No proof exists to connect them to his known great great grandfather William B. Crain of TN, KY, and MO. Janet Crain 1810 I have found a likely match in the 1796-1809 Campbell County, Ky tax > lists, > William Crain. This William appears in the 1795 tax list with a > "tithable", William, Junior. > Also, genealogy of Cader Edwards tells this story; Robert and Cader > Edwards took part > in the battle of Fallen Timbers, June, 1794. "On this campaign, they made > the > acquaintance of Nimrod Crain, a noted scount for Gen. Wayne, and after > their discharge > from the army, on the invitation of young Crain, they visited him at his > father's home on > the bank of the Licking River, about one and half miles above its junction > with the Ohio. > Here Cader (Edwards) first met Elizabeth (Betsy) Crain, who was then a > beautiful girl of > about fifteen years old." > Nimrod also appears in the tax lists and is noted in one deliquent list > to have "removed > to Pendleton. He, along with William can be found there in 1810. Both > appear in the > 1820 Franklin census. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <HILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: [HILL] John HILL and Mary CRANE & James HILL and Sarah TIDD > According to DNA results, John HILL who married Mary CRANE and their son > Owen (b. 31 May 1822 in Marietta, Washington County, Ohio) are likely > related to James HILL and Sarah TIDD of Hardin County, Ohio, my earliest > known HILL ancestor. I am trying to find the connection between these > families. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > http://www.hilldna.com/4905.htm > http://www.hilldna.com/Group27.htm > http://www.hilldna.com/results.html > > Thanks. > > Aaron Hill > Salem, Oregon > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006 > >

Were those two children adopted or did they wind up in Des Moines? Does anyone know or can someone find out someway? The names Nellie Hill, Martha and Hubert Hill sound very familiar. Mel Hill www.iowaghosttowns.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Alohawahine75@aol.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: [HILL] Death of Mrs. Nellie Hill and her orphaned children ~Jefferson County, Iowa Lockridge Herald Lockridge, Jefferson Co, IA Friday, February 18, 1916 OBITUARY Mrs. Nellie Hill died last Friday morning at 4:30 o'clock at the Jefferson County Memorial Hospital where she had been taken last Tuesday suffering from an attack of pneumonia. The death of Mrs. Hill is particularly sad from the fact that she leaves three children, a daughter Esther sixteen years old, a son Hubert six years old and a daughter Mabel four years old. Mr. Hill preceded her in death several years ago. SEEK HOME FOR ORPHAN CHILDREN Who has a place in their home for a little boy of six or a little girl of four, or both? There are doubtless many in Jefferson county who have considered the though of giving a home to some little one who is homeless, and now the opportunity presents itself forcibly. Little Mabel and Hubert Hill are left by the death of their mother with no one to care for them but the county and state. Unless a home can be found for them here they must be taken to the Orphan's Home at Des Moines. Little saddened hearts of four and six need more sympathy and love than can possibly be theirs in any institution. Isn't there a home and happiness for them somewhere in Jefferson county? Any one who is interested in seeing these children with a view to adoption may call on Mrs. Marshal Chilcott, overseer of the poor. Posted at this site with Cathy's permission. Cathy Joynt Labath Iowa Old Press http://www.IowaOldPress.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lockridge Herald Lockridge, Jefferson Co, IA Friday, February 18, 1916 OBITUARY Mrs. Nellie Hill died last Friday morning at 4:30 o'clock at the Jefferson County Memorial Hospital where she had been taken last Tuesday suffering from an attack of pneumonia. The death of Mrs. Hill is particularly sad from the fact that she leaves three children, a daughter Esther sixteen years old, a son Hubert six years old and a daughter Mabel four years old. Mr. Hill preceded her in death several years ago. SEEK HOME FOR ORPHAN CHILDREN Who has a place in their home for a little boy of six or a little girl of four, or both? There are doubtless many in Jefferson county who have considered the though of giving a home to some little one who is homeless, and now the opportunity presents itself forcibly. Little Mabel and Hubert Hill are left by the death of their mother with no one to care for them but the county and state. Unless a home can be found for them here they must be taken to the Orphan's Home at Des Moines. Little saddened hearts of four and six need more sympathy and love than can possibly be theirs in any institution. Isn't there a home and happiness for them somewhere in Jefferson county? Any one who is interested in seeing these children with a view to adoption may call on Mrs. Marshal Chilcott, overseer of the poor. Posted at this site with Cathy's permission. Cathy Joynt Labath Iowa Old Press http://www.IowaOldPress.com/