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In my family I have a Jesse Bell Hill, but he lived in Morgan county. I'm not sure where he was born. If this rings a "bell" with you, contact me for more info. He was married to Etta Mae Anderson. Javbst@aol.com wrote: Does anyone have any info relating to either Jesse or Aaron Hill 1860 Hancock County Ohio? From what we know they came from Virginia. B Rgds, Scotty Hartigan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message DON'T FORGET TO VISIT THE WALSH FAMILY ON LINE GO TO: www.geocities.com/walsh_family_reunion !!! --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

Please note that Ancestry does not support SPAMMERS. It is someone who has snuck into the system and they work hard everyday working against these folks. Don't think that RootsWeb or Ancestry are behind this. I am sure they will be taking a look at it and hopefully will figure it out soon. Byron has tried banning this email address (at AOL), but apparently whoever it is has found a way around this. Please be patient. Aaron

It may very well be a SPAMMER who is using that AOL account. It looks like a computer is testing access to the list. Aaron From: "Anita Tally" <atally@mchsi.com> Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Subject: [HILL] Why Unsubscribe? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 22:05:29 -0500 Get serious, Hill researchers! Why would you unsubscribe from a good list just because one stupid person uses the "F" word? We don't need to be THAT sensitive! Anita HILL Tally

MrMayor, >From what I have read of your emails, it appears that YOU may be a Spammer. Much of your information is useless, taking up the valuable time of bonefide HILL researchers. Let Byron Administrate the HILL list. We are perfectly happy with him and the job HE is doing. Thank you for NOT cluttering up the HILL list in the future with useless prattle. Are you SURE you are a HILL? Wanda Hill Hamblen no time for X Spurts

I have talked about Sorenson every chance I get, just look at the archives. There are tons of messages. Investigate before sending money in the future. I am using Sorenson as a database to confirm and verify my own results from FTDNA. (And I convinced my brother to submit a sample as well.) Helen, you complain and whine too much (in my opinion). Aaron From: "helen sabin" <hsabin@cox.net> Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HILL] DNA Testing Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:07:11 -0700 YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD Aaron!! Woo Hoo! It is much, much, much, much more generic! Broad and vague is the way I would describe the MtDNA testing for women and the results you get - worthless is another way I would describe it. Yeah - now you tell us about the Sorenson project!! Why didn't you mention this before I spent over $200. on the MtDNA worthless and valueless to genealogy research mtDNA test? Huh? Next time put it in BIG letters so we notice! Helen Sabin

Scotty, As I have described before, the HILL DNA Project is for men who are direct descendants of someone named HILL. Because of the problems with AOL, we have had a hard time communicating, but from what I remember you are not a direct descendant of a HILL. Or am I wrong? Your yDNA would be HARTIGAN not HILL, unless you have a different surname than your father for some reason. Let me know if you still have questions, etc. Aaron From: Javbst@aol.com Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com To: hill@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HILL] dna testing Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 20:15:43 EDT I support the DNA testing if that can be a useful tool for research, though I asked Aaron about Hill DNA testing and in emails to me he replied that since I wasnt a Hill it was for only, I also was told that by one of the testing labs noted here in the discussion ... yet my great grandfather was a Hill and my grandmother a Hill, so I really dont understand the exclusionary basis of this testing. B Rgds, Scotty Hartigan

Does anyone have any info relating to either Jesse or Aaron Hill 1860 Hancock County Ohio? From what we know they came from Virginia. B Rgds, Scotty Hartigan

I believe 'ToddsRoots@aol.com' may have a computer virus or worm. Aaron

Ditto!!! Thank you!=== -----Original Message----- From: hill-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hill-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Anita Tally Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:05 PM To: hill@rootsweb.com Subject: [HILL] Why Unsubscribe? Get serious, Hill researchers! Why would you unsubscribe from a good list just because one stupid person uses the "F" word? We don't need to be THAT sensitive! Anita HILL Tally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Hamilton" <marshahamilton@alltel.net> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [HILL] Unsubscribe - I've heard enough about DNA & no more "F"word! > Ditto..... > > -------Original Message------- > > From: GlowyJ49@aol.com > Date: 09/07/06 21:14:45 > To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HILL] Unsubscribe - I've heard enough about DNA & no more "F" > word! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb > com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jerri - could you give me some dates for your William Hill and Elizabeth Halbert - what state? Kathy S ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerri Ritter To: hill@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [HILL] from HILL Discussion List Administrator Hello Byron, It's been a long time since we've "visited". I'm a descendant of William Hill/Elizabeth Halbert. Can you put me in touch with some others from this line? Thanks, Jerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Byron Hill" <gbh333@gmail.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: [HILL] from HILL Discussion List Administrator > This has been a very interesting thread (DNA). I am glad on one hand to > see > our HILL Discussion List active, but we are starting to lose subscribers > because of this off-topic discussion. It seems fair to allow the > discussion > to continue for another hour (until 9:40pm CT), but there is another > Rootweb > Discussion list for this topic (see below) that I would like to urge > anyone > interested to subscribe to. Please adhere to this request and complete > your > DNA postings on the HILL list by 9:40pm (or continue the discussion in > private). Thank you. > > Byron HILL > Admin > HILL Discussion List at Rootsweb > > *GENEALOGY-DNA-L* > *Topic:* Anyone with DNA (i.e., anyone!) who would like to discuss methods > and share results of DNA testing as applied to genealogical research. > > *Subscribing.* Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, > but > if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to > join *GENEALOGY-DNA-L*, send mail to > GENEALOGY-DNA-L-request@rootsweb.comwith the single word > *subscribe* in the message subject and body. To join *GENEALOGY-DNA-D,* do > the same thing with > GENEALOGY-DNA-D-request@rootsweb.com.<GENEALOGY-DNA-D-request@rootsweb.com> > and now that summer is almost over, I am expecting that normal HILL > research > activity on the list will pick-up. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ditto..... -------Original Message------- From: GlowyJ49@aol.com Date: 09/07/06 21:14:45 To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HILL] Unsubscribe - I've heard enough about DNA & no more "F" word! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HILL-request@rootsweb com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is not relevant to modern-day DNA testing. It doesn't apply. Whether a person believes in evolution or creation has no relation to what a marker result will be. You may find the following links useful: http://www.isogg.org/ http://www.isogg.org/tree/index.html http://ycc.biosci.arizona.edu/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_genealogy From: "DixieMom" <southerncross@pgtc.com> Reply-To: "DixieMom" <southerncross@pgtc.com> To: <mrmayor@hotmail.com> Subject: dna testing Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:04:43 -0500 Hi Aaron, I was just curious about scientific models. I am not a scientist. I was only a biology major in college. People who are involved in research will tell you that the model a study is based on can very well make a difference in the results. I do not know if these results would differ in the case of a creation model vs. an evolution model. Would a difference in millions of years vs. thousands make any difference? I do wonder if they would. That is all. Science isn't all "pure" as most of us have been led to believe. Recent example: Pluto. There are lots more. People have to remember "science" is only observing, testing, and repeating, and stating what happens. Probably because I have studied in the field of science, albeit only 4 years, and my husband does scientific research for some big companies, we have seen how "research" can be skewed to make it say whatever the money behind it wants it to say. Sad, but true. Honest research is wonderful. I am all for it. And maybe DNA testing is OK. And maybe even accurate. I am just being careful not to jump on its bandwagon YET. :) Donna

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Get serious, Hill researchers! Why would you unsubscribe from a good list just because one stupid person uses the "F" word? We don't need to be THAT sensitive! Anita HILL Tally ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Hamilton" <marshahamilton@alltel.net> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [HILL] Unsubscribe - I've heard enough about DNA & no more "F"word! > Ditto..... > > -------Original Message------- > > From: GlowyJ49@aol.com > Date: 09/07/06 21:14:45 > To: HILL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HILL] Unsubscribe - I've heard enough about DNA & no more "F" > word! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb > com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Byron, Nancy

Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Holder" <dholder1960@sbcglobal.net> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [HILL] Ejected (from HILL Discussion List Admin) > Thank you so much.I was just about to unsubscribe. > > Byron Hill <gbh333@gmail.com> wrote: Todd Roots has been unsubscribed and > blocked from future postings. > > Byron Hill > HILL DISCUSSION LIST > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

If your father were a HILL then you could do the testing - ----- Original Message ----- From: <Javbst@aol.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [HILL] dna testing >I support the DNA testing if that can be a useful tool for research, though >I > asked Aaron about Hill DNA testing and in emails to me he replied that > since > I wasnt a Hill it was for only, I also was told that by one of the testing > labs noted here in the discussion ... yet my great grandfather was a Hill > and my > grandmother a Hill, so I really dont understand the exclusionary basis of > this > testing. > > B Rgds, > Scotty Hartigan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Its interesting that Ancestry.com is putting these folks on their websites - so we can't trust Ancestry huh? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Hill" <mrmayor@hotmail.com> To: <hill@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:00 PM Subject: [HILL] Sorenson Project >I have talked about Sorenson every chance I get, just look at the archives. > There are tons of messages. Investigate before sending money in the > future. > I am using Sorenson as a database to confirm and verify my own results > from > FTDNA. (And I convinced my brother to submit a sample as well.) Helen, you > complain and whine too much (in my opinion). > > Aaron > > > From: "helen sabin" <hsabin@cox.net> > Reply-To: hill@rootsweb.com > To: <hill@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [HILL] DNA Testing > Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:07:11 -0700 > > YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD Aaron!! Woo Hoo! It is much, much, much, > much > more generic! Broad and vague is the way I would describe the MtDNA > testing > for women and the results you get - worthless is another way I would > describe it. Yeah - now you tell us about the Sorenson project!! Why > didn't you mention this before I spent over $200. on the MtDNA worthless > and > valueless to genealogy research mtDNA test? Huh? Next time put it in BIG > letters so we notice! > Helen Sabin > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HILL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >