Thank you Charles. It is nice to know that the fort is still standing. Next time I visit Georgia, I will try to visit the museum. Sincerely, Patricia

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question about the location of Fort Hawkins. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

Hello Everyone, This is the information that I was able to gather from the Sion L. Hill pension. Sion L. Hill alias Hurbert Hill, widow Frances Dismuke. Pvt. in Capt. Joseph Howard's Co., Ga. Mil. Enlisted 20 August 1813, information given by widow states he enlisted at Fort Hawkins, another page states he enlisted in Baldwin County, Georgia. (does anyone know where Fort Hawkins is located?) Discharged 8 March 1814 at Fort Hawkins. Residence of soldier: 1852 1855 Macon Co., Ala. Residence of Widow: 1876 1878 Ozark, Dale Co., Ala. Marriage of Soldier and Widow Dec 5, 1818, Clinton, Jones Co., Ga. Death of Soldier Aug 2, 1871, Ozark, Ala. War of 1812. Francis Hill aged Eighty years, a resident of Dale County, in the State of Alabama, who, being duly sworn according to law, declares that she is the widow of Sion L. Hill deceased, who was the identical Sion L. Hill, who served under the name of Hurbert Hill as a private in the Company commanded by Captain Thomas Woodard in regiment of Georgia Troups commanded by Newnon? under Gen. Floyd in the war of Eighteen Hundred & Twelve, that her said husband voluntered at Fort Hawkins in Ga., on or about the 1st day of July in the year A. D. 1814 for the term of War, and continued in actual service in said war for the term of Six months and whose services terminated, by reason of an Honorable discharge at Fort Hawkins on the --- day of December 1814. She further states that the following is a full description of her said husband at the time of his enlistment, viz: Seventeen years 6 months- farmer Birth Place North Carolina (Hight), five ft. 8 or 10 inches, Hair Black Eyes Gray, complexion Fair, she further states taht she was married to the said Sion L. Hill at the city or town of Clinton in the county of Jones in the State of Georgia on the Fifth day of December A. D. 1818, by one John Heath, who was a justice of the peace, and that her name before her said marriage was Francis Desmuke and she further states that neither claiment nor her husband had been previously married, and that her said husband Sion L. Hill died near Ozark in the State of Albama on the 2nd day of August A. D. 1871. and she further declares that the following have been the places of residence of herself and her said husband since the date of his discharge from the Army, viz: Resdied in Jones Co. Georgia from 1818 to 1832 from there to Haris Co., Ga, & resided there 10 years & from there to the State of Alabama where they have resided until date 1878." Records also state that he was in the Indian War: Sion L. Hill was a Major & commanded a Battallion under the command of Brigadier General Henry Lowe in the Indian War of (1836) of the Georgia Militia: that he enlisted or voluntered at Hamilton, in the County of Harris in the State of Georgia, on or about the 10 or 15th of May A. D. 1836 for the term of said Indian War, and continued in actual service in said war for the term of near three months (141 days) and was honorably discharged at Hamilton, Harris Co., Georgia on or about the last of July or 1st August 1836. I find this Hill family in the following locations during the Federal Census. 1820 Putnam County, GA. 1830 Jones County, GA. 1840 Harris County, GA. 1850- Have not located them in this census. 1860 Macon County, GA. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

Hello Everyone, Yesterday I received Sion L. Hill's pension records for the War of 1812. Included in the documents was a copy of the bible record of Sion L. Hill and wife Francis Dismuke. So now I have positive proof that Nancy D. Hill wife of William B. Howard is their daughter. The bible information is as follows: Copy of Family or Bible record of Sion L. Hill. Births: Sion L. Hill was born the 3rd day of February A. D. 1796. Francis Dismuke was born the 16th day of June A. D. 1798. Marriages: Sion L. Hill and Francis Dismuke were married the 5th day of December A. D. 1818. Births of Heirs of S. L. & Francis Hill: Mary Ann L. Hill was born the 5th day of October A. D. 1819. Roxina A. Hill was born the 5th day of March A. D. 1822. Bethena P. Hill was born 11th day of July A. D. 1824. Wade Hampton Hill was born the 18th day of February (in) A. D. 1827. Nancy D. Hill was born the 14th day of May A. D. 1829. Lucinda L. Hill was born the 13th day of October A. D. 1832. James J. Hill was born May the 14th A. D. 1835. Georgiann Washington Hill was born May the 6th 1837. Francis E. Hill was born September the 26th 1839. Louisa V. Hill was born June th 14th 1842. Deaths: James J. Hill died June the 6th 1842. Sion L. Hill died August the 2nd day A. D. 1871 aged 75 years 5 months & 29 days. Sincerely, Patricia Laird Howard

--part1_e36b8600.250a644d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_e36b8600.250a644d_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Rjw4038@aol.com From: Rjw4038@aol.com Full-name: Rjw4038 Message-ID: <ea2d6f81.250a63ce@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:38:22 EDT Subject: Hill's To: WHendr3062@aol.com, Goofie0313@aol.com, bobnjerr@flash.net, flashon@flash.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 I am a descendent of James Rolland, Joseph Richmond, Cornelious Alexander and Effie Mae Hill. I am currently compiling information on the Hill's and have info current to the last Hill reunion. If you have any information to update, please advise. I will be happy to share what I have thus far, and my branch is current to date. Thank You, Have a Great Weekend. Sincerely, Rhonda Withers My e-mail rjw4038@aol.com --part1_e36b8600.250a644d_boundary--

Hi folks, Still looking for information on Mary HILL (bc1570, Eng., d10-29-1605) who married Francis LITTLEFIELD (b1565, Hampshire, Eng). They were married c1591. Their son Edmund LITTLEFIELD was born 6-27-1592 in Hampshire, Eng. and married Agnes AUSTIN on 10-16-1614. Is anyone researching this family? Gayle

Here are some more Hills in NJ cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine Di Pietro <vdpcom@warwick.net> To: <NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 4:29 PM Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] Old Walpack Cemetery, Flatbrookville > Greetings All, > > Here is the only copy of "Tombstones at Old Walpack Cemetery Flatbrookville" > that I found at the library. It says it was part of "Hill Family Date" and > taken by > ? Morgan on 8/22/1931. The original list is typed on an older style > typewriter > with pencil marks squigled through some of the entries. I will place an > asterick > (*) in front of the entries crossed through on the typewritten list....I do > not know if > this indicates the stones were no longer legible on a second visit or if > they were > moved as part of the Tock's Island project. > > Enjoy, > Listowner Cathy > --------------------- > *Anna Trauger, wife of Alexander Hornbeck b. March 13, 1848, d. March 15, > 1901. > *Alexander Hornbeck, Co. A, 1st Reg. N.J. Vol, d. July 17, 1906 62 yrs > > *Jerome C. Trauger, 1858-1903. > *Hattie, his wife, 1865-1891. > > Henry D. Snover, Co A, 27th Reg, N.J. Vol., d. December 27, 1883, 65 y, 1 m, > 16 d. > Permelia A., wife, died Dec. 31, 1880, 60 y, 7 mo. (donkey) > > *Frankie E. son of J.C. & Hattie Trauger, b. June 27, 1885, d. July 4, 1890. > > (James is crossed through) Jonas Snover, d. Feb. 7, 1870. > > Simeon Earl, Co K, 1st Reg, N.Y. Eng Corp USA, b. Aug 6 1843, d. June 10, > 1883. > > Wm. C. Huff, b. March 8, 1818, d. Oct. 10, 1898. > Catherine Losey his wife, b. Aug. 19, 1818, d. Jan. 22, 1882. > > Hannah M. dtr of Wm C.&Catherine Huff, d. June 3, 1867, 19 y, 2 mo, 22 d. > Lorenzo W. son of " " " , d. March 13, 1852, 1 > yr, 10 mo, 23 d. > Mary C. dtr of " " " , d. Sept. 13, > 1838, 2 yr 1 mo 6d. > > *Elise Trauger, d. Sept. 16, 1862, 39 yr 7mo 14d. > > *Mary E. dtr of Elias & J. Ann Trauger, d. Jan. 13, 1881, 21 yr 9 mo 8d. > *Frances A. dtr of " " " , d. Sept. 7, 1868, 18 yr > 11 mo. > > In Memory of William Hill who died October 10, 1844, 80yr 5mo 21da. > " " " Abigail, wife " " July 19, 1846 in 79 yr. > > *Andrew Hill, GAR, d. Feb. 8, 1859, 70 yrs 5 mo 13 d. > *Elizabeth Hill, wife, d. Nov. 1, 1853 aged 88 yr 9mo 19d. > > *Reader, George W. Hill, son of John & Elizabeth Hill, d. Dec. 14, 1862, 22 > ? 16d. > > *Theodore, son of Lewis & Elizabeth Trauger, d. Jan. 13, 1834. 3 yr 7mo > 18da. > > Arminda, dtr of Wm. & Cecelia Trauger, d. Sept. 9, 1845, 16 days. > Cecelia, wofe of Wm Trauger, d. June 24, 1848, 34 yrs 3 mo 11da. > > *James P., son of Enos & Mary A. Hill, d. Nov. 29, 1855, 10yr 10mo 10da. > > *Mary Ann, wife of Enos Hill, b. Sept 26, 1807, d. Dec. 3, 1879. > > *John S. Hill, b. Feb. 4, 1828, d. Aug 18, 1904. > > Mary T. Hill, wife of Wm. C. Huff, b. Feb 25, 1832, d. Dec, 17, 1898. > > > >

I thought I saw someone looking for a Uriah Hill in NJ. There is one listed here. cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine Di Pietro <vdpcom@warwick.net> To: <NJSUSSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 3:54 PM Subject: [NJSUSSEX-L] Millbrook Cemetery Inscriptions > Greetings Sussex and Warren County Researchers > > >From "History of Millbrook, Pahaquarry Township, Warren County, NJ" by > Myra Snook, 1969 - reading taken in 1964 with mark in parenthesis ( ) by > Norman Garis > > John and Jemima Fleming Mary Shoemaker > 2 infant children daug. > Benjamin T. & Ila Shoemaker > b. Feb 18, 1859 d. Oct 6, 1848 > one Mar 25, 1859 4 mo. 24 days > > Abraham M. Garis James Spangenburg > d. Sept 2, 1878 d. Mar 18, > 1866 > 77 yrs 9 mo 87 yrs 7 mo > (58 yrs) > > Anna M. (Maria) Garis Henrietta Stires > d. Oct 28, 1869 wife of George > R. Stires > 4 yrs (47 yrs) d. June > 26, 1867 > > (20, 1857 35 yrs) > Elias Labar Gares 1824 - 1909 > w. Hannah M. 1835 - 1912 76 yrs 2 infant sons of James & > Sarah > > Spangenburg d. Mar. 23, 1854 > Philip J. S. Garis > d. July 20, 1908 83 yrs Permelia Sutton > > wife of M. M. Sutton > Sarah Garis (Smith) d. Oct. 24, 1865 > d. May 17, 1876 46 yrs > 75 yrs 3 mos > > Emanuel D. Van Campen > Mary Melissa Hill son Margaret > & John Van Campen > daug. Andrew & Sarah Ann Hill b. Oct. 16, 1854 > d. Mar. 21, 1863 d. May 16, > 1856 > > Sarah Hill (wife of Uriah Hill) Anna Van Gorden > b. July 22, 1800 wife of John > L. Van Gorden > d. Mar. 6, 1863 d. May 22, > 1852 > > Uriah Hill > b. Dec 7, 1794 Henry Welter > d. Mar 6, 1863 son of > Coonrad and Mary Welter > > d. July 19, 1852 > Charles Henry Holton (Horton) 5 yrs. > son Eli & Mary Holton > d. Mar. 21, 1818 Mary Welter > > wife Coonrad Welter > Sarah Lehomadieu d. Apr 5, 1812 > (Apr 8, 1847) > wife of J. K. Lehomadieu 42 yrs > d. Dec. 18, 1858 > > Elijah Welter > McMurtrie d. Aug > 20, 1852 > son of Andrew & Mary McMurtrie 28 yrs > d. Apr 2, 1853 > > Kejiah Welter > Sarah Masker wife Coonrad > Welter > d. Feb. 14, 1892 82 yrs d. Feb. 19, 1882 > 68 yrs > > Finley R. Welter > son Jesse Welter > d. June 30, 1862 > (b. Jan. 30, 1859) > > Mary Margaret Welter > daug. Jesse & Jane Welter > d. Jan. 20, 1850 > 3 yrs > > Infant child of Jesse & Jane Welter > d. Mar. 2, 1847 > > Martha Elizabeth ______ > d. Feb. 1, 1816 > > Numerous unmarked graves > > Hope this helps someone - if so, pass on the assistance to someone else > <grin> > Cathy DiPietro, listowner NJSussex > > >

Reposting - received new information - any one have any information or links: cindy Gggrandfather was Robert B Hill born 12/10/1828 died 9/15/1880 married Susan Marie Loderick born 10/23/1827 died 1919. They were married 8/9/1851. Robert and Susan lived in Vienna and Robert originally was buried in the old church yard there and later was moved to Hackettstown, NJ. Susan was buried in Hackettstown. Children: Joseph Fletcher Hill born 6/6/1852 died 6/2/1906 - wife was "Sue" - had 2 children Charles and Mammie. Burial at Cedar Ridge, Blairstown, NJ Julia Hill (never married) born 8/13/1854 died 1/2/1943 burial Hackettstown Margaret Hill born 1/2/1857 died 1939 - Married a ? Cyphers and had 5 children - burial in Hackettstown George Hill (my ggrandfather) born 7/24/1859 - burial in Scranton, Lackawanna County, PA Minnie Hill 12/25/1865-7/1938 married a ?Hildebrandt - Buried Washington, NJ - 3 children Mary HIll 6/17/1870-7/1938 - married a ? Bachman - 1 child - burial a Chester, NJ

I am looking for my cousins, Larry Allen Hill; DOB 9/9/47 and Betty May Hill; DOB 9/4/43. Their parents were Clifford and Sidney (McCormack) Hill.

I am new at this so bare with me. I have found out that there is a William Hill in my line that was married to a Mary Devers. They had a son named Martin John Hill who married Esther Graves. They in turn had a son named Edward O'Conor Hill who married a Nora Elizabeth Clark. They had a son who is my grandfather named William Everett Hill. I do not have any dates, or places of origins, or any information on other children they may have had. I am form Kentucky and have seen so many refernces to Kentucky and William Hills' that I thought someone must know something. Thank you for any help!

Did anyone have Hill in the Joplin Missouri area about 1870's? I am jumping around the whole state of Missouri, still trying to find Russell Hill from somewhere in Kentucky to where he and David Ann Dunbar had their first child in 1877 in Joplin, Jasper County, Missouri... lena@valu-line.net

Looking for any info on my grandfather, Charles Borromeo Carberry and his ancesters. He was born in Brooklyn, New York c.1875. Married Mary "Josephine" Healey (b. 1890). They had 3 children, Josephine, Charles and Raymond. HELP-Hill people!! Charles mother was a Hill (possibly Hannah) and her family was from New Jersey and were protestant. That's all we know about her. Anyone have a connection? Charles father (or possibly grandfather) was Peter Carberry who fought in the Civil War out of Philadelphia, PA. He was born in county Westmeath, Ireland abt 1835. Charles had brothers and sisters and possibly half brothers/sisters whose decendants are still in Brooklyn(some of them anyway). Anyone with the slightest bit of info on these people, please contact me at jimmysunyofsb@yahoo.com Thanks, hope to hear from someone,Anyone??!! === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

While tracking my Hills through Family Tree Maker's World Family Tree and other CDs I found a claim by a Hill descendant that the John Hill that settled in Loveland, Clermont Co., Ohio was a descendant of Edward and John Hill of early Virginia. I found the brothers. They had been bookbinders in London. John died about 1624 from a fight with indians; he left his daughter with friends. I could never track Edward. I found references to Edwards but could not make any connection. He was middle aged when he came to Virginia. The Hill family page shows my line going back through Henry Truman to Henry and to Robert Hill, born ca 1650. This is the line I found in my research. But I never could tie Robert and Edward together. In one of their CDs there is a section devoted to the Warfield family. In this a Hill family is given where there is a Robert Hill, born ca 1650, and a Richard, born ca 1649. These Hill children are cousins to the Richard Warfield that came to Maryland. Later in the CD it says that Robert and Mary Hill died and left Henry and Phillip to Richard Hill. I finally convinced myself that the Robert Hill born in London and the Robert Hill that left Henry with Richard is the same Robert that is the top of my line. So I am offering this up to all of the Hills to think about. You can hail me at judys@ntr.net.

Ray & Anita Hill, My ISP timed out and took your address with it am in interior Alaska and have a good friend that works at the courthouse. I'll see if I can find anything. Please advise if you have any locations. I can order micro film thru our public library. If someone else has the information please let me know I can quit searching. Good luck to all of us, Sherri <rnuttall@ptialaska.net> Note: the first word in the address looks like an M but is really R N. Ray and Anita Hill wrote: > Does any have access to the 1880or 1890 census for Ak? I have a Laura > Barkley ,ggm, married to Henry Hill. She was born in Monroe Co, 1883. I > have found no record of Barkleys there in 1870. She had 3 brothers, Jim, > Tom ,& Blaine all younger. If someone could look for me , I would really > apperciate it then I would have something to go on. At this point I have no > where else to go, that I know of. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > > Spamming this list with commercial posts is not allowed. > > Please advertise products, items, or services on the proper lists. > > Thank you! > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Additional sites to post or review HILL data can be found at: > http://edge.edge.net/~gbhill/

Opps ! I goofed on the state should be Ponotoc Co MS, instead of Ponotoc Co AL.. Is anyone researching this HILL? 1820 Franklin Co., TN Benjamin HILL 3 males under 10, 0 males 10-15, 0 males 16-18, 0 males 26-44, 1 male 45 & over 1 female uner 10, 3 females 10-15, 2 females 16-25, 1 female 26-44. Looking for parents and or siblings of Benjamin Hill b. 1811 TN., mar. Piety BOTTOMS 28 Feb 1835 ? Ponotoc Co., AL., d. abt 1856 Cherokee Co., TX. TIA, Debbie Hill dhill@childresstx.com

Try posting this on the Marr-L@rootsweb site. It has suddenly come alive. There may be info there. I had an Elizabeth Marr that married John Bibb in 1767 in Amherst Co.,VA. Probably no connection, but you never know. Her son William Kincaid Bibb married Mary Naboth Hill probably in VA.

Elaine, 1870 Greene co., ARkansas census, Concord township List the following. 8/8 Wm C. Wagner m 35 Farmer 130 KY Nancey f 25 Kh GA Frances A. f 7 AR Wm. S. m 4 AR George F. m 2 AR 9/9 Wm. C. Hill m 54 House Carpenter 100 TN Anney S. f 37 Kh TN Albert m 16 TN John m 12 TN Garland m 5 TN This sounds like some of the family you are looking for. You may already have the information. This is not my family. Kaye At 04:07 PM 9/6/99 -0400, Larry Blackman wrote: > I've just found my HILL ancestry this past month and got a lot more lines >besides, due to the work everyone has already done to make this possible. > >My ggg grandparents were Drewry Alvin EUBANKS and Sarah AWTREY who married >abt. 1846 in Murray Co., GA. They were in Greene Co., AR by 1860. Her >parents were John AWTREY and Elizabeth HILL. Two of his siblings married 3 >of her siblings besides. Her parents were John HILL and Annie Naomi CAMP. >John's parents were Abel HILL and Elizabeth WAGGONER. Does anyone know the >parents of Abel HILL, b. abt. 1730 and d. 1803 in 96th Dist., SC. John HILL >and 3 of his brothers were rev. war vets. Does anyone know the parents of >Elizabeth WAGGONER/ WAGNER/ etc. ? > >Thanks, >Elaine Blackman > > >==== HILL Mailing List ==== >Additional sites to post or review HILL data can be found at: >http://edge.edge.net/~gbhill/ > >

I've just found my HILL ancestry this past month and got a lot more lines besides, due to the work everyone has already done to make this possible. My ggg grandparents were Drewry Alvin EUBANKS and Sarah AWTREY who married abt. 1846 in Murray Co., GA. They were in Greene Co., AR by 1860. Her parents were John AWTREY and Elizabeth HILL. Two of his siblings married 3 of her siblings besides. Her parents were John HILL and Annie Naomi CAMP. John's parents were Abel HILL and Elizabeth WAGGONER. Does anyone know the parents of Abel HILL, b. abt. 1730 and d. 1803 in 96th Dist., SC. John HILL and 3 of his brothers were rev. war vets. Does anyone know the parents of Elizabeth WAGGONER/ WAGNER/ etc. ? Thanks, Elaine Blackman

Please post the answer to your puzzle---I was given this line as being ancestors of one of my Hill lines, and I hope I can either use it or pitch it in the "other" file. I'm looking for Asaph Hill,b.c1775, who married Elizabeth Marr abt 1798. (prob. SC). Thanks, Doris Deborah Soper wrote: > > Hi, > I have a family lineage done many years ago that I am trying to verify. I > am looking for information on William Henry Hill (generation 9) and his > father John Green Hill (generation 8). According to the 1850 Census > records of Wayne County, Tennessee William Henry Hill was was 24; a farmer; > born in Tennessee. He was living with his wife Elizabeth also 24 years of > age and children Mary 4, Vashti 2, and S.B. Williams 15, also a listed as a > farmer. All in this family are listed as being born in Tennessee. > Evidently William Henry Hill took a job with the railroad and the next > census record I can find him is in the 1870 Richland County, Illinois > Census. This time however Elizabeth, his wife, is listed as being born in > North Carolina. Does anyone have any information on WILLIAM HENRY HILL 's > place of birth or his father JOHN GREEN HILL? > > This is the family I am trying to verify: > Descendants of Robert HILL > 1. ROBERT HILL. > 2.ROBERT HILL, b. 1612; d. Abt. 1670. He married MARY WEBB. > 3.SION HILL, b. Abt. 1653; d. Abt. 1704. He married ELIZABETH SMITH > SPILTIMBER 1677. > 4. RICHARD HILL, b. 1684; d. 1723. He married HANNAH BRIGGS b.1662; d. 1739. > 5.GREEN HILL, b. November 20, 1714; d. 1769. He married GRACE BENNETT Abt. > March 26, 1739. > 6.MAJOR GREEN HILL, b. Abt. 1741. He married MARTHA THOMAS. > 7.ALEXANDER HILL, b. Abt. ca. 1774; d. ca. 1850 > 8. JOHN GREEN HILL, b. 1804; d. 1875. He married MARY D. MARTIN December > 4, 1823. He married second Susan D. Hodges 1833. > 9.WILLIAM HENRY HILL, b.1826 in TN; d. 1897. He married ELIZABETH (possibly > WILLIAMS) b. in TN or NC December 27, 1845. > 10. SAXTON DALBY HILL, b. December 7, 1869 in Illinois; d. Aug 7, 1917. > Worked for the railroad out of Lester, WA and died in a train accident in > the Cascades. He is buried in Tacoma, Washington. He married MARY ELMA NOE. > 11. MATTHEW WILLIAM HILL, b. June 26, 1894 in Bozeman, MT; d. February 28, > 1989 in Olympia, WA. He married IRMA YOUNG mAY 17, 1924 in Seattle, WA. She > was b. May 17, 1893; d. January 14, 1980 in Olympia, WA. > > Thanks for any help, > Deb > _________________________________________________________ > Deb Soper Jenkins > Researching Family Names of > Craver*Demaree*Emerson*Evans*Guye*Hill*Jenkins*Markell*Massie*Sauers*Schute* > Snodgrass*Soper* > Tilford*Walters*Young > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Thank you for your support of The HILL Family Discussion List. > Please post your HILL research periodically so we will all know who > you are looking for.