BlankI am seeking information regarding a "James" or "John" Hill, from the Prince George's County, Maryland born about 1774. He married Charlotte Drane born May 1776 in Prince George's County, Maryland. They were married November 19, 1792. One source says James one says John, hope some source out there can help. Lynn, Houston, Texas --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/02

Bryon Hill: I am sorry that you misinterpreted my message. In taking what I said out of context, it does change the line of thought I was trying to address. I have found it necessary sometimes to search through someone else's list of information, to find someone who doesn't seem to exist, other than by name, at a later time. I have had success finding several lost persons, with just a name, by the help of someone's later list of family memebers. For fact I have located two major family lines by finding someone who had them listed as family members, but nothing else to go on. I then researched and found contacts for these people through the years, and so was able to prove what family they belonged to. It did help my research by knowing where to possibly find information on them, and when. Thanks for your reply, and no one wants information to be more accurate than I do! I Hope this explains more to you. I am sorry I did not thank you before for coming to my help for my involvement in a Virus situation that I had no control over. I do wish to say THANKS FOR YOUR HELP! A Hill researcher too, Bettijane Larson [email protected] ---- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [HILL-L] The Hill Family of Chowan County North Carolina--Book In a message dated 6/8/02 1:13:43 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I was searching the Hills for Hill's from the states mentioned, and disagree with the Hill letter about not using other's work. PRIVATE Bettijean: That's not what I said!!!!! I take issue with the fact that you misinterpreted my email and chose unnecessarily to post your misinterpretation publicly on the HILL list. I don't think you will find ANYWHERE in my email where I said anything about "not using other's work"!!!!! It is my job as HILL _L administrator to keep the integrity of this list at the highest level, and normally that includes the barring of people trying to sell or promote the sale of books on the list, especially a book that I have already had to contact the author about because of glaring errors. Now, rather than publicly embarrass the author, or publicly embarrass the one promoting the book, I chose to post a well-meaning email full of useful standards that should help anyone seeking any kind of genealogical information from the research of others. Your email is not what I would expect from someone I so diligently helped and defended last year when your computer virus infected through direct emails ! with several of our subscribers!!!! Byron Hill HILL-L Administrator

My grandfather was Guy Eugene Hill. He was a physician who practiced mainly in Waller County, Texas. Dr. Hill was born July 4, 1875 in Vernon Parish, Louisiana. His parents were Melvin Bruce Hill and Margaret Elizabeth Taylor. His siblings were: Herman P. Hill m. Ella Hay Donnie M. Hill m. Sam Little Earnie M. Hill died in infancy Maud L. Hill m. John Hay Ida May Hill m. unk Robinson William C. Hill m. Cora Glaze Nellie Hill died in childhood Rex D. Hill m. Lydia Caughtery Sometime between 1885-1887, the family moved from Louisiana to Texas and settled in the Edge Community of Brazos County. Would like to contact descendants of this family to pursue common ancestry. Willing to share information so far accumulated. Carol Kilgore [email protected]

I have Ancestors and decendents of the Jonathan Hill b. Prudence Island, Newport. RI - 1657. Will be glad to share or compare information. This goes down to my Ancestors Jonathan and Roxanna Warner Hill of RI - New York and down to WVa. E-mail me [email protected]

Thanks for your reply. I was searching the Hills for Hill's from the states mentioned, and disagree with the Hill letter about not using other's work. Yes, be accurate, and most people are, but finding our lost Hill families can give us leads to follow and prove. Bj Larson ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: FW: [HILL-L] The Hill Family of Chowan County North Carolina--Book > > ---------- > From: "David M. Hill" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:20:38 -0500 > To: "David Hill" <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [HILL-L] The Hill Family of Chowan County North Carolina --Book > > To all... just download the book for free in html.. bring it up in your > word processor program and print it out for you. Remember thou, there are > exceptions, as expressed by Brian Hill, Hill-Roots list administrator, as to > the descendancies referenced within this document. > > Go to this address: > http://olympus.as.arizona.edu/~mccarthy/JILL/The%20Hill%20Family.htm > > Yes, the book is a privately published book and obtainable thru your local > library intra-loan. I requested it, appreciated the history presented and > return that copy to the College of William and Mary. > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Where do you send queries?...send them to [email protected] > Where do you send unsub and sub commands?... > send them to [email protected] > >

HOOOOOO!!! You are so right~~~!! I recently found out that I have been given as the "source" of some incorrect data [in another family line]. I wrote to a person 30 yrs ago, telling them that I had found this data and was wondering if it connected to my line----but that I'd let her know if it did. I finally [after about 10 yrs of searching] proved it to be wrong, and found the correct connection, which I sent to her---but she never acknowledged it... Now I have discovered that she wrote a book and gave my name as reference/source for the incorrect data.... We don't live at the same address anymore, so maybe I can claim it isn't me??? Doris....A Texan in Georgia..... Still shaking the family tree and dodging the nuts after 30+ years! IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: [HILL-L] Family History Books (a word of caution) Hello fellow HILL listers: Please allow me to give you another word of caution about published family histories that use "secondary" sources. These books are often compilations of the research of others, and often these other researchers are wrong. Just because the book can be found in a library doesn't mean that the data isn't HIGHLY questionable. Before you buy a book, question the author on the source documentation. Before you go on the recommendation of someone promoting a book, ask if the sources are "primary" or "secondary". Rely mainly on "primary" hard data...census information, will abstracts, deed abstracts, birth and marriage records, etc., and be VERY careful with books written that do not site these "primary" type sources (even Bible data can be questionable...it totally depends on the date of the Bible and who wrote it in the Bible). If the book that is being recommended to you sites "secondary" data or the research of others...proceed with extreme caution and use it ONLY as a starting point. We have ALL possibly been guilty (yes me too) of propogating bad data. It happens, but the best way to make up for all the bad data that we have all possibly sent around and exchanged, is to set our own standards higher, ask questions, look for cited sources, and learn the distinct difference between "primary" data and "secondary" data. Probably the best advise ever given to me was to go to the library and do your own research, starting with your parents, and find at least ONE hard fact allowing you to make a written (one sentence) statement of proof for each generation one by one, all the way back. If you must rely on a secondary source to make a connection, find out what their "primary" source was for the connection, go look at the document (or get a copy) yourself, and cite THAT in your research. By all means, if you do post your own compilations on the web, include a brief statement of where your research came from, and how reliable it is. This may be an near impossible request, because I can't even find the researcher's or compiler's actual name and address on most research I get emailed to me. Insist on knowing what you're getting, and don't be fooled by a fancy hard-bound cover, or a fancy web page. Byron Hill HILL-Admin --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/2002

I totally agree and thank you for reminding everyone. I am working with a fellow researching cousin now that published a book. We have a common immigrant ancestor. He and his wife had six children. They each had children. Here is the problem. If I had just typed in the book into my handy little computer program and not searched for myself I would have missed some very important information. One example is that I found children that were listed on census records that were not included in her book because they died at an early age. One ancestors clearly states that she had 10 children and only 7 were living at that time. I was able to look back and find the names of two of her deceased children. I may never find a name of the third child that died, I understand that if a child is stillborn or dies in infancy that there may be no name or no record of that child. In this case there was good documentation that this child existed and I can honor that and at least include that in my information. Martha Texas

Hello fellow HILL listers: Please allow me to give you another word of caution about published family histories that use "secondary" sources. These books are often compilations of the research of others, and often these other researchers are wrong. Just because the book can be found in a library doesn't mean that the data isn't HIGHLY questionable. Before you buy a book, question the author on the source documentation. Before you go on the recommendation of someone promoting a book, ask if the sources are "primary" or "secondary". Rely mainly on "primary" hard data...census information, will abstracts, deed abstracts, birth and marriage records, etc., and be VERY careful with books written that do not site these "primary" type sources (even Bible data can be questionable...it totally depends on the date of the Bible and who wrote it in the Bible). If the book that is being recommended to you sites "secondary" data or the research of others...proceed with extreme caution and use it ONLY as a starting point. We have ALL possibly been guilty (yes me too) of propogating bad data. It happens, but the best way to make up for all the bad data that we have all possibly sent around and exchanged, is to set our own standards higher, ask questions, look for cited sources, and learn the distinct difference between "primary" data and "secondary" data. Probably the best advise ever given to me was to go to the library and do your own research, starting with your parents, and find at least ONE hard fact allowing you to make a written (one sentence) statement of proof for each generation one by one, all the way back. If you must rely on a secondary source to make a connection, find out what their "primary" source was for the connection, go look at the document (or get a copy) yourself, and cite THAT in your research. By all means, if you do post your own compilations on the web, include a brief statement of where your research came from, and how reliable it is. This may be an near impossible request, because I can't even find the researcher's or compiler's actual name and address on most research I get emailed to me. Insist on knowing what you're getting, and don't be fooled by a fancy hard-bound cover, or a fancy web page. Byron Hill HILL-Admin

---------- From: "David M. Hill" <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:20:38 -0500 To: "David Hill" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [HILL-L] The Hill Family of Chowan County North Carolina --Book To all... just download the book for free in html.. bring it up in your word processor program and print it out for you. Remember thou, there are exceptions, as expressed by Brian Hill, Hill-Roots list administrator, as to the descendancies referenced within this document. Go to this address: http://olympus.as.arizona.edu/~mccarthy/JILL/The%20Hill%20Family.htm Yes, the book is a privately published book and obtainable thru your local library intra-loan. I requested it, appreciated the history presented and return that copy to the College of William and Mary.

I am new to this list and imagine that the Hill list would be very large. I have a Hill ancestor that has been in the too tough basket for a while so thought I would flag the details on this list to see what happens. I have a Nicholas Isaac Hill born about 1831 Bristol, England. He was butcher and emigrated to Australia in 1857. His father was Isaac Hill, also a butcher and his mother Hannah Merrick. It is a needle in a haystack job but one has to give it a shot. All the best Les Trollope Mildura, Victoria, Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "bjlarson" <[email protected]> To: "Denise Smithart" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [HILL-L] Re: Hill book Inquiry > Which line of Hills are you referring to? I did not get a message about this > and am wondering if this could be about Hills from NJ>NY> IN>OH>IA ? > Thanking you for your reply, > Bettijane > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise Smithart" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:18 AM > Subject: [HILL-L] Re: Hill book Inquiry > > > > David Hill; > > > > How much are you asking for the book? I have two > > connection's to the Hill families, and would be > > interested in your book. Please contact me Offlist; > > by Email: > > [email protected] > > > > Thank You > > Denise > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > > Thank you for your support of The HILL-L Discussion List. > > Please post your HILL research periodically so we will all > > know who you are looking for. > > > > >

I am posting this again. It has been a while, so I thought maybe some new members might have info re my ancestor. L. Burton/Elberton/ Burt Hill b ca 1829 m Susan Dodd b ca 1832 d/o Willie Dodd on 14 May 1850 Children: 1. Ransom b ca 1856 2. Ann Elizabeth b ca 1858 3. Gilly b ca 1859 4. Lenoar b ca 1861 5. Daniel James b ca 1863 6. Adaline b ca 1864 7. Easter b 28 Jan 1868 8. Samuel Junius b 4 Aug 1869 9. Doctor Edgar b 19 Sept 1874 If anyone can tell me anything about Elberton's parentage or siblings, it would be greatly appreciated. Regards~Iris Hill Brown

Thanks for the info on the online availability of the book. I will donate my copy to the local library. David Hill Greensboro NC

BOWEN, WILLIAM HILL, JR Hill was born September 12, 1925 in Monticello, FL and passed from this life June 3, 2002 at Hospice House, Tallahassee, FL. He was predeceased by his parents, William Hill (Bill) Bowen, Sr. and Bessie Clark Bowen and is survived by his sisters, Frances Bowers, Monticello, FL and Madelon Beecher, O'Brien, FL. Hill served our country as a Corporal during the Korean Conflict and after discharge he resided in Malibu Beach, CA for many years. Upon retirement he returned to Monticello, FL. His request will be honored for private, family only, graveside services with burial in Roseland Cemetery, Monticello.

David Hill; How much are you asking for the book? I have two connection's to the Hill families, and would be interested in your book. Please contact me Offlist; by Email: [email protected] Thank You Denise __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

I have the above titled book for sale. It was published in 1990 by Anne L. McCarthy. It is in excellent condition. I purchased it new from the author. It is # 159 of only 350 copies. If interested, please drop me an e-mail. David Hill Greensboro NC

My wife descends from JOHN BERRYMAN HILL b circa 1860 in SC, later living in Maysville, Ga. where he had a son, my wife's father, Howard Lamar Hiil, b 1893. Family recall indicates that he came to Maysville while working on or for the railroad. Does anyone have any suggestions as to this John B Hill? Charles R House

Jackie, this is my response from Mr. Wilson, editor of the Tombibee Country Magazine. May he please use Leonidas' letter as he requests. Thanks, Henry Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde Wilson" <[email protected]> To: "Henry Hill" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [HILL-L] 1864 letter from James Leonidas Hill b. 1844 > > --- Henry Hill <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mr. Wilson, my wife is a subscriber of your > > magazine. I recently read your > > series re the battles of General Nathan B. Forrest. > > Unfortunately, we did > > not keep them. Received the following on the Hill > > Genealogical List. Jackie > > is asking to which battles Leonidas is writing > > about. Do you know? If not, > > could you please put me in touch with the author of > > your series. Left > > Winona, MS, over fifty years ago to join the army. > > Thanks for your kind > > consideration, Henry Hill, > > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jackie bower" <[email protected]> > Mr. Hill: My mother was a Hill from Monroe County, MS. > Can't help but wonder if we are somehow connected. we > have a Leonidas, I think. My great aunt was named > Lucy. > The Battle Of Harrisburg is usually now referred to as > Battle of Tupelo. Harrisburg was a now defunct town > west of Tupelo, area now a part of Tupelo. It is > sometime called the Tupelo Expedition and was one of > NBForrest's only defeats. In his favor, he did not > want to fight, because he felt it was hopeless and > felt would only result in a lot of dead. The battle > was fought in July, 1864 at Tupelo. I will get around > to writing about it sooner or later in TCM. > I am in the process of mailing Issue #29 so don't have > time today but will contact you again with more > information and the way to check up on who fought > where and with what unit. > I might be interested in using the letter in TCM if > there is any way that is possible. I sent your inquiry > to Eddie Rogers of Memphis, my cousin who is > researching Hills. His grandmother was a Hill, and my > aunt. > In the meantime ask more questions if you want and as > soon as I have time, in day or two, will send you > anything you want to know about the battle or either > answer or put you in touch with someone who can answer > any other qestions you may have. > Very interesting letters!!! > Clyde Wilson > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com >

Hello List. I am just joining and was wondering if anyone has information on a recent Hill line in NC. I am looking to find parents of a Tommy Hill who was married to a Anna Hester Rhodes "she was born in 1886 ). They had a son Henry Hill b. 1924 who has since died in the 1990's. They lived in Johnston co. or Wayne co. NC , NOT sure which. I think Henry Hill lived in Wayne co. though. ANY information appreciated, Thanks , Gail

Hi, everybody. I'm new to this mailing list. I'm researching the Lyman Forst Hill, Sr. family of Trenton, Mercer Co., NJ (my great-grandfather). Lyman Forst Hill, Sr.: 11/12/1863 - 3/7/1932 Father: prob. Thomas C. Hill Mother: prob. Susan L. (?) Wife: Lydia Ann Norton: 11/12/1861 - 9/2/1932 Children: Bertha Louise Hill: 1/6/1884 - 6/1933 Irving Kelly Hill: 7/27/1886 - 1/6/1888 Lyman Forst Hill, Jr.: 10/31/1888 - 11/1965 Lida May Hill: 11/30/1890 - prob. before 1940 Bessie Genevieve Hill (Embley): 1/27/1893 - prob. before 1950 Anna Virginia Hill (Holcombe, Shephard): 3/7/1895 - 7/29/1976 George Norton Hill: 2/27/1899-9/1981 I'm on the most solid ground with Anna Virginia Hill who was my grandmother. My greatuncle George Norton Hill supplied the rest of the information about his siblings shortly before his death. I have been trying to substantiate this information through the SSDI, census records, and Trenton City Directory listings with mixed success. I've hit a lot of brick walls, so I'm interested in sharing information with anyone researching this branch of the Hill family. Thanks! Patricia Holcombe Steffen (Pat) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com