I noticed the comment about the relationship to A. P. Hill in these notes and had to smile. We were always told that we were related to the General also, but so far have found absolutely no way to connect to that line either. I think a lot of Hill families in the south were claiming him as "kin" without any proof. Terry Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: [HILL-L] ??TN Cousin of Sen Benj. Harvey Hill of GA > Hello Everyone, > > About a year ago I inherited my two aunt's personal papers, correspondence, > genealogy files. I of course, went through the genealogy files quickly and > found some correspondence 1941 from a V. Royt Hill of Birmingham Alabama to a > third party regarding his Hill ancestors (seemingly not Isaac Hill and > Lucinda Wallace) being cousins of Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. Since then > I have not been successful in tracking this V. Royt Hill or descendants down. > > However, I am finally going through the mounds of other correspondence, and I > found another similar letter from V. Royt Hill to a third party ("Charles and > Elizabeth") of greater interest. It was apparently sent from one aunt to the > other in the "regular" correspondence pile. There are several names in the > following paragraph, and I and probably Jackie and others will wonder if > anyone can identify them and their ancestry. > > In sum what we have is a JOAB HILL with a brother THOMAS. Joab is a great > grandfather of V. ROYT HILL, writing in 1941. The brother Thomas has a son > HENRY TAYLOR HILL, who according to his daughter MARY HILL BOX, for a while > left home in TN and went into NC or GA and stayed with the father or > grandfather of BEN HILL of Ga, who was a cousin or relative. The writer > expresses the need for more verification, perhaps because it 'looks good" to > claim a relationship with Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. > > Here is the paragraph, following some references to Senator Ben Hill and the > book the Hills of Wilkes County, GA: > > "I had a letter from Mrs. Mary Hill Box, a grand daugghter of Thomas Hill. > (He was a brother to my great grandfather Joab Hill.) In this letter she > states that her father Henry Taylor Hill, when a young man left home and went > into N.C. or Ga. from Tenn. and stayed for some time with a cousin or > relative who was the father of or grandfather of Ben Hill of Ga. However, I > want more verification than this." > > Regarding his possible skepticism of the claim of cousinhood. I can > understand. All the while his children & grandchildren, frustrated by his > silence on the matter, had been researching the ancestry of my illegit. Hugh > Lawson White Hill, b. 1840 inWarren Co TN and had decided he was the son of > HLW Hill, b. 1810 there...nevertheless whichever one of them was writing his > obituary said he was the nephew of Civil War General A. P. Hill, who unless I > am way off the mark, has no known relationship to the descendants of Isaac > Hill and Lucinda Wallace that lived in Warren Co TN. > > Any thoughts? > > Best Regards, > Janet Hunter > > ______________________________

Sorry Rhonda, No Nancy is listed as of 1880. Last child we have born for them is 1867. But that does not mean they could not have had one born after 1880. Also I believe there was a Hinton Hill family that seemed to follow the same route. We have not found a connection to them yet, but your Nancy may have come from them. TerryAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Chesnutt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [HILL-L] William S. Hill in Lincoln Co. TN > Did William by chance have a daughter named Nancy? Was his middle name > Samuel? Just have Hills that followed the same path..... (I believe) > > Rhonda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Ann" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:16 PM > Subject: [HILL-L] William S. Hill in Lincoln Co. TN > > > > Looking for info on which family this William belonged. He was born > approx. 1830 in NC somewhere. He is not the son of Ebenezer Hill who was in > Lincoln Co. TN during this same time. William married Margaret Pulliam in > 1851 and the family was in Lincoln Co. until at least 1880. Their sons > John, William and Joseph Shields Hill all left TN and moved to AR then OK. > Any help in finding where in NC William came from or who he belonged to > would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much for your help. > > TerryAnn in Texas > > PS, any researchers looking for Hills in the Lincoln Co. area need to > remember that this county sits right on the Alabama state line, so if you > can't find them you might want to check AL records. > > > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > > Where do you send queries?...send them to [email protected] > > Where do you send unsub and sub commands?... > > send them to [email protected] > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 > > ______________________________

Looking for information about Charles J. Hill, born in 1796 in Connecticut, possibly Bethleham. He moved to Rochester where he had a mill and was elected as a Democrat as the 9th mayor in 1841. He lived on Prince Street where he died in 1883. He was married to someone named Silvana and they had several children: Charles B., Weathy, Hannah and Emily. Emily married someone named Pierce (Edward, I think). Her daughter, (my grandmother), was named Blanche and she was married twice - to Harold Strebeigh and in 1914 to Jerome Napoleon Bonaparte. While married to her first, she had three children - Harold who didn't survive into adulthood and twins, Blanche and Barbara Strebeigh, who were born in Rye, NY in 1902. They lived in New York and summered in fashionable resorts like Newport and Southampton. If you recognize anything about any of the above individuals, please email me at the Hill site or to [email protected] Thanks. Julian Sloan

I found this on SC web page. Doesn't ring any bells for me, but maybe it will for someone. Iris Hill Brown The Will and Estate Record of WILLIAM HILL Probate Roll # 2090 Marion Co Office of Probate Judge South Carolina Transcribed by Jo Church Dickerson - 1998 (Only two documents in file - including the original will) 1st document: Fold side: State of SC vs Jno H. Rogers Summons Asa Godbold, Ordinary ~ Lodged 4th Febr 1862 Wm. D. Campbell, SMD (Sheriff, Marion District -jcd) By George Edwards personally served John H. Rogers with a copy of this Summons 5th Feby 1862. signed: Wm. D. Campbell, S.M.D. Service $1.00 Mileage .40 Entry .25 $2.05 Ordinary 2.00 $4.05 Ordinarys Office, Marion District So.Ca. To John H. Rogers You are hereby summoned to appear at a court of Ordinary to be held at Marion Court House the seventh day of February Inst. to show cause why you shall not be attached for retaining in your possession the Will of William Hill late of State and District aforesaid. Agreeably to an act of the General Assembly in such cases made and provided. Given under my hand and seal of office. 3rd day of February A.D. 1862. Asa Godbold, Ordinary, M.D. 2nd document: Fold side: Last Will of William Hill, filed 7th February 1862 The State of South Carolina, Marion District The last Will and Testament of William Hill In the name of God Amen. I William Hill of the District of Marion in the State of South Carolina being in a poorly State of health and Sound in mind considering the Infirmity of my age thanks be to Almighty God for the Same but calling to mind the mortality of this body and that it is appointed to all men once to die. I do therefore make and constitute this my last Will and Testament but first of all I commit my spirit into the hands of God my creator from whence I received my being nothing doubting but I shall receive the same at the Great day of the Resurrection of Quick and Dead and be again received by the Almity God As for Such worldly goods as it hath pleased God of his great goodness to indow me with I do hereby dispose of in the following manner that is to Say After my just debts and Funeral charges are all paid I will begin with my beloved wife Mary Hill I give and bequeath unto her all my Interest in or to all the Lands that still belong to us that she owned at the time we were married and every thing else that was hers that we now owne at the present I also give her one rone mare and Buggy and harness and all that belong thereto also all the corn and bacon and all the blade fodder in an old house and one top Stack of fodder also one low bedsted with the bed and furniture I give unto my Daughter Sarah Granger one bedsted with the bed and furniture one two year old colt a mare colt one larg pot two stacks fodder one of blades and one of tops one large dining table two small tables and a book case and a slab and all the books that belongs to me only one hymn book one desk and its contents all of my tools Saw augers chisels planes one crosscut saw to be Sold all of my plantation tools to be equally divided between my wife and daughter Sarah Granger also one large trunk and a small one in it and all the papers in them I give to Sarah Granger also one Small pot and one oven to be devided between my wife and Sarah Granger one three year old heifer and one two year old stear to be devided between the same two I give to Sarah Granger two manure forks all my kegs and barrels to be divided between my wife and Sarah Granger one (dimejon?) one tin fat stand? to be devided between the same two To Sarah Granger I give one larg Bofat and all the furniture glasses pickers? and crockery waire and all that belongs to it except one large glass tumbler one large table at my other place one small table at the same place one small book case (some?) large trunks and some loose planks in the loft at my old place to be sold to help pay my debts also one pare of cart wheeles at Sarah Grangers to be sold in like manner three or chains? to be sold in like manner one cart here I give to my wife her lifetime and then to John H. Rogers I give my Interest in or to a tract of Land wich William Collins lived on at the time of his death containing Seventy four acres lying between Owen Roger's and Jane Collin's to Owen Rogers to Sell and divided amongst John H. Roger's children There is a certain law suit now pending between myself and the administrator's of Joel Granger if there is any thing recovered out of said administration's after paying my debts I give it to my daughter Sarah Granger - I have accounts to the amount of one thousand and Sixty nine dollars and thirty four cents against this estate of Joel Grainger if colected to be divided between Sarah Granger & Betsey Powell one Share of a Stock in the Wilmington and Manchester rail road company to my wife and Sarah Granger after my wifes death to Sarah Granger if She lives the longest one Briddle and Saddle to William H. Granger. I give unto my son David Hill five dollars in cash for his part of my estate I give unto my Daughter Betsey (Hill crossed out) Powell five Dollars for her part of my estate Also an account against David Hill to the amount of one hundred and twenty five dollars to my wife Mary Hill Also I do hereby Nominate constitute and appointment James Carmichael to be my True and Lawful Executor to this my Last Will and Testament Ratifying this and no Other and confirming the Same to be my last Will and Testament and denying all others but this In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal February the 23rd, 1861. In presence of William X (his mark) Hill {Seal} Owen Rogers Georg W. Rogers John H. Rogers _______________________ RESEARCH NOTES by jcd: Other Marion County documents prove that John H. Rogers was a son of Mary Hill, widow of William Hill; that Mary was married first to a Rogers, then to Thomas Collins (died 1840), and after Collins' death to William Hill. Her maiden name remains unknown. (If anyone knows Mary's maiden name, or the name of the father of John H. Rogers, I would certainly appreciate the information. [email protected]) William Hill is proven by Hill family researchers to have been part of the Hill family of neighboring Robeson County. He was a son of James Hill and his wife Nancy, of Robeson. James Hill came to Robeson with several of his brothers - Slaughter, Moses, William, and Thomas Hill. They were sons of Thomas Hill who left will dated 1768 in Halifax County, NC. William Hill had land grant(s) c1800 on Ashpole Swamp between Lake View and Nichols. Census records seem to indicate that after his marriage to Mary he might have resided somewhere near Mullins, probably on lands that Mary had from her Collins or Rogers marriage. The "Bible record of David Page" shows that William Hill was born in 1782. That his first wife and mother of his children, was probably Elizabeth, daughter of David Page (born 1744) and his wife Sarah. Bible record also shows that David Page's parents were Abram Page and his wife Mary. (Bible record of David Page found in the Horry County Independent Republic Quarterly, Vol 17, Winter 1983 No.1, Page 8. This record has also been posted to the Horry County Historical Society webpage: http://www.hchsonline.org/bible/dp.html ) Of the children of William Hill: David Hill (b 1802) married 1/ Mary Grainger (sister of Joel) mar 2/Nancy (unk.). Nancy's death is the last entry in the David Page Bible record. She is buried at Bear Swamp Baptist Church (1822 - 1879). Sarah Hill (b 1804) married Joel Grainger, son of John Grainger & his wife Charity. It is from Joel and Sarah Hill Grainger that the Grainger family of Lake View descend. Betsey Hill (b 1812) married Barnabas Powell. (No further record.)

Searching for information on the following individual. Richard Joel Hill born about 1804 in Tennessee (?), he married Media Jordan who was born 1807 in Tennessee, her name has also been listed as Mada and Media and even Hellen in the 1850 Census District 4 of Obion County. Need any information on this branch and if Richard's father might have been the John D Hill born 1770 in Virginia? Thanks Anna Hutton-Page

Becky...Don't always be so certain that a Hill family tree originated in the UK. In my own case my ancestors originated from what today is central Germany (Hannover). After they emigrated to the United States and learned to speak English Johann Heinrich Hille became an engish-sounding John Henry Hill and after a generation you could not separate them from the English-heritage Hills, except by their church (Lutheran). Rik Hill Becky Horne wrote: > Hi there Janet > > The HILL surname is very popular and found all over the world. However with > England being the starting point for family members to emigrate, I presume > we can assume that ancestors with the surname originally originated from the > UK, especially when we take the USA and South Africa into the equation. (I'm > only mentioning USA and SA because of your connection plus my own) > > Elizabeth and Charles HILL is also a very popular parent's name it also > seems, you asked for any thoughts so here are mine. > > The connection to the HILL family comes from South Africa. There are so many > HILL families, one cannot seem to keep up. However, I'm posting what I > have. You never know. You might just find a connection. > > I'm looking for James HILL. (B. 1801 D. 5 July 1877) He was the father of > Isabella that married Frederick Waarde HENWICK. It seems that Isabella could > have been a child from a 2nd marriage as she was born when James was ± 50 > years old. > > Charles (B. 1779 D. 6/5/1856) Passenger list has him - B. 1782, but the > death certificate has him dying at the age of 77. > Elizabeth/Agnes (B. 17175) Elizabeth is on the passenger list but on death > certificate it is Agnes. > Children > James (B. 1801 D. 5/7/1877) Passenger list has him - B. 1805, but death > certificate has him dying at the age of 76. > Jane (B. 1806) - No details. > Elizabeth (B.1810) married Thomas MILLS (B. 1799) Dates not confirmed, but > Elizabeth died at 99 years old. > Charles (B. 1812) married Wilhelmina BARENDS (No birth details) > Henry (B. 1812) married Clarissa Anne Seadon CROFT (B. 1818) > > The whole HILL family came out on the Sir George Osborn and disembarked in > Algoa Bay, latter settling in the Albany District in and around Salem. > I think that's why the HENWICK's were all under the impressions that they > were from the 1820 Settler descent, which they weren't. > > Kind Regards, > > Becky > Port Elizabeth, South Africa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:36 PM > Subject: [HILL-L] ??TN Cousin of Sen Benj. Harvey Hill of GA > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > About a year ago I inherited my two aunt's personal papers, > correspondence, > > genealogy files. I of course, went through the genealogy files quickly > and > > found some correspondence 1941 from a V. Royt Hill of Birmingham Alabama > to a > > third party regarding his Hill ancestors (seemingly not Isaac Hill and > > Lucinda Wallace) being cousins of Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. Since > then > > I have not been successful in tracking this V. Royt Hill or descendants > down. > > > > However, I am finally going through the mounds of other correspondence, > and I > > found another similar letter from V. Royt Hill to a third party ("Charles > and > > Elizabeth") of greater interest. It was apparently sent from one aunt to > the > > other in the "regular" correspondence pile. There are several names in > the > > following paragraph, and I and probably Jackie and others will wonder if > > anyone can identify them and their ancestry. > > > > In sum what we have is a JOAB HILL with a brother THOMAS. Joab is a great > > grandfather of V. ROYT HILL, writing in 1941. The brother Thomas has a > son > > HENRY TAYLOR HILL, who according to his daughter MARY HILL BOX, for a > while > > left home in TN and went into NC or GA and stayed with the father or > > grandfather of BEN HILL of Ga, who was a cousin or relative. The writer > > expresses the need for more verification, perhaps because it 'looks good" > to > > claim a relationship with Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. > > > > Here is the paragraph, following some references to Senator Ben Hill and > the > > book the Hills of Wilkes County, GA: > > > > "I had a letter from Mrs. Mary Hill Box, a grand daugghter of Thomas Hill. > > (He was a brother to my great grandfather Joab Hill.) In this letter she > > states that her father Henry Taylor Hill, when a young man left home and > went > > into N.C. or Ga. from Tenn. and stayed for some time with a cousin or > > relative who was the father of or grandfather of Ben Hill of Ga. However, > I > > want more verification than this." > > > > Regarding his possible skepticism of the claim of cousinhood. I can > > understand. All the while his children & grandchildren, frustrated by his > > silence on the matter, had been researching the ancestry of my illegit. > Hugh > > Lawson White Hill, b. 1840 inWarren Co TN and had decided he was the son > of > > HLW Hill, b. 1810 there...nevertheless whichever one of them was writing > his > > obituary said he was the nephew of Civil War General A. P. Hill, who > unless I > > am way off the mark, has no known relationship to the descendants of Isaac > > Hill and Lucinda Wallace that lived in Warren Co TN. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Best Regards, > > Janet Hunter > > > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > > Attached files are not allowed on this list. The server will remove them > from your email. If you need to send a file to someone, > > please do so directly to the intended recipient. Thank you! > > > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Where do you send queries?...send them to [email protected] > Where do you send unsub and sub commands?... > send them to [email protected]

I am a member of the Dr. Green Hill line (1813-1892)-Martha Caldwell of Middleton, Logan County IL. The information I have on the family begins with William Hill-Susannah Smithers.It continues thru Daniel Hill-Martha Hickman, and then William Hickman Hill-Sally Brown. A newspaper clipping about a family reunion, published about 1896, states that Green Hill's "ancestors on his father's side coming from North Carolina and his maternal ancestors from Virginia. The late Hon. Benjamin Hill of Georgia belonged to another branch of the doctor's family." There is no mention of R.Royt Hill in the typescript I have of the family. Nor is there aconnection with Issac Hill-Lucinda Wallace. Maybe it was more wishful thinking. I am researching William Hill and Sally Brown an would be happy to hear from any one in this line. Jean Hill

Hello All, I've been going through a hardcover book I've had for some time but am now going back through it slowly and carefully to see if I can pick up additional information and clues. The book, "Austin Colony Pioneers" by Worth S. Ray, was first pub. in 1949, again in 1970 and more recently reprinted in 1995. The book includes histories of Bastrop, Fayette, Grimes, Montgomery and Washington Counties, Texas. On page 122 in the section for Washington Co., TX, there is the following mention of Rev. Noah Hill. "An account of the HILL Family of the Austin Colony would be incomplete without mention of Rev. Noah HILL, whose monument stands in the Prairie Lee cemetery at Brenham, with the inscription showing he was born in 1811 and died in 1867, which has been heretofore given. Although he died in Austin County, he was brought to Brenham, his home, and buried. His biographr in "Links" (vol. 1, p. 212) says that part of his boyhood was spent in North Carolina and part in Georgia, and that he married Miss J. C. Heefly, July 25, 1833. He was a student of Mercer University at old Penfield, in Greene Co., GA and came to Texas with his old friend and associate Elder Henry L. Graves, one time President of Baylor University at Old Independence. He was a Baptist minister and his last charge as a preacher was at Brenham, where he was buried. He preached also at Wharton, Matagorda, LaGrange, and various places in and contiguous to Austin's Colony. His wife died in 1887, and they left a number of children, whose names have not been identified. This writer is confident that Noah Hill was descended from the same family as that of the ISAAC HILL who is ancestor to the James Monroe Hill and Asa Hill heretofore mentioned in these notes." This last sentence caught my attention. As a researcher of the Isaac Hill, Sr. line and a direct descendant of Asa Hill, I am curious about this Noah Hill. I have never, ever seen the name "Noah" among this particular Hill line. What the author bases his confidence on concerning the connection between Isaac Hill and Noah Hill, other than similarities in location, is unknown to me. Does anyone know anything more of this Rev. Noah Hill? Any descendants out there who can clarify this? And has anyone seen this publication "Links" Vol. 1 to which reference is made? Regards, Jackie ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com

I would like to contact William M. Hill, Jr. (King Circle, Louisburg, NC) who wrote to the Brownsville States-Graphic (Brownsville, TN) in June 1994 looking for descendants of William Hill who lived in Haywood County. I know this is a long time ago but I am a descendant of this William and while at the library recently saw this letter. Would like to make contact and share information. My email address is [email protected] Lynda Hill Clarke

In a message dated 7/27/02 9:02:42 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > On a related matter, I'm trying to find any information I can on the time my > great-grandfather, Dr. Henry Willlis Hill, spent in Memphis and in Texas > after the Civil War. > > My apologies for the screwed-up spacing in my other message. I cleaned it up before sending it, but the cut-and-paste passages got messed up a second time. If you need it, I can try to put the missing spaces back where they belong. Al

Byron and everyone, I'm trying this once again. I very much appreciate the various comments on V. Royt Hill's research. The letters I have indicates he has questions about Hill ancestry, but perhaps between 1941 and his death he did more work with which I'm not familiar. My primary point was related to our discussions of DNA, and its implications.. It was that he had a letter written by someone else that suggested a group of Hills, not descendants of Isaac and Lucinda Wallace Hill, "said" they were related to Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. I thought that IF this other group of Hills (brothers Joab and Thomas, Thomas son Henry Taylor (possible contemporary of Sen Benj Harvey Hill), Henry's daughter Mary Hill Box) had a known/proven/documented satisfactorily ancestry back to NC (or VA) in the mid 1750s, then finding a descendant for a DNA test might help Isaac Hill descendants (or others) if there was a match (or even near match). My views on this remain the same. IS anyone on this list a part of the families of which V. Royt Hill was a member? Are they being tested. I know that one of the subscribers mentioned the ancestry, but it wasn't specific enough for me to figure out. Do they fit into any of the lines already being tested or at Byron's website, which I see is now being updated? I was in no way condoning V. Royt's Hill research, none of which I submitted to the list, nor do I really have. The letter I cited was not his, and he expressed his doubts about the linkage to Senator Hill, which I interpret to mean he wasn't sure whether the story was fueld by the desire to be linked to famous personages or not. Best Regards, Janet Hunter

In a message dated 7/27/02 7:49:12 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > The Voyt data has been seriously questioned for years Byron, Thanks again for a well-needed heads up. On a related matter, I'm trying to find any information I can on the time my great-grandfather, Dr. Henry Willlis Hill, spent in Memphis and in Texas after the Civil War. Here are a couple of paragraphs that will set the scene for you: Hill, Henry Willis, MD. Dictionary of Alabama Biography, page 811 “Hill, Henry W., physician, was born January 9, 1827, inWilkes County, Ga., son of Abram and Clarissa (Callaway) Hill, the former anative of North Carolina, the latter of Georgia.; grandson of Henry and Sarah(Cotton) Hill, the former a native of Virginia, of Irish descent and a soldierof the Revolution, the latter a native of North Carolina and of Scotch descent,and of Joseph Callaway and a Miss Reagan, both natives of Georgia;great-grandson of David Reagan of North Carolina, a soldier of the Revolution.Dr. Hill received his education at Brownwood University, LaGrange, Ga., andlater in Mississippi, where his parents had removed. He began the study of medicine [at Newnan, Coweta Co, GA], underDr. A. B. Calhoun; entered the University of South Carolina, at Charleston,1846; and graduated in medicine from the University of New York City, in1848. He located at Blackhawk, Miss.,and practiced at various points in that state until the beginning of the War ofSecession. He enlisted in 1862 withGeneral Chalmers and served on his staff until taken sick about six monthslater. He returned home, remainingthere for eight months, re-enlisted as a surgeon of Colonel Fisher’s regimentin which service he remained until the close of the war. He then opened a drugbusiness in Memphis, remaining there for only one year; spent two years inTexas; returned to Alabama, remaining two years; later resided in Mississippiand Tennessee locating in Mooresville, in 1881, where he has sinceremained. He is a Baptist and aMason. Married: (1) July 12, 1849, to Mary E. daughter of Bakerand Almeda (Callaway) Lipscomb; (2) March 27, 1855, to Ann T., daughter of James and Elizabeth (Wood) Hall;(3) February 25, 1859, to Mrs. Mary E.(Poitevant) Girault. Children by secondwife, 1. James A., physician, m. ElizabethW., daughter of James and Harriet A. (Wright) Woodroof. Last residence:Mooresville. //////////////////////////////// Postedby <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">Al Hill</A><[email protected]> on Mon, 30 Apr 2001,in response to <A HREF="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Tx/BastropBios/19"> EarlyFamilies</A>, posted by Tammy on Thu, 23 Nov 2000Surname:Hill, Callaway, Hall, Girault, Poitevant, Lipscomb, Wright, Woodroof, Walker,McGeheeHenry Willis Hill, MD (09 Jan-02 Feb 1904) Dr. Henry Willis Hill, born inWilkes County, Georgia, was second cousin to the three Hill brothers who cameto Bastrop, TX, in 1835 and bought half of the old Jenkins League: AbrahamWylie Hill, Middleton Milledge Meade Hill, & Thomas Abraham Wylie Hill. Dr. Hill, his wife, and his onlychild went to Texas from Grenada and Blackhawk, MS, after Dr. Hill had servedas a surgeon in a Mississippi unit until the end of the Civil War and spent oneyear operating a drug store in Memphis, TN. He, his third wife, and his onlysurviving child then spent two years (1869 and 1870?) in Texas before goingback east, eventually settling in Mooresville, Limestone County, AL, in 1881.There he set up in joint medical practice with his son, Dr. James Abram Hill,child of his second wife, Ann Temperence Hall. Dr. James Abram Hill marriedSarah Elizabeth Woodroof, daughter of a local planter in Mooresville, Alabama. It is not certain that Dr. Henry Hill's time spent in Texas was in Bastrop, but it is highly likely. I would be delighted to find any information bearing on my great-grandfather's period in Memphis or in Texas--probably with one of his cousins in Bastrop, but possibly with other relatives, elsewhere in Texas. Thanks, Byron, Any suggestions? Al Hill

In a message dated 7/25/02 1:36:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > About a year ago I inherited my two aunt's personal papers, correspondence, > genealogy files. I of course, went through the genealogy files quickly and > > found some correspondence 1941 from a V. Royt Hill of Birmingham Alabama to > a > third party regarding his Hill ancestors (seemingly not Isaac Hill and > Lucinda Wallace) being cousins of Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. Since > then > I have not been successful in tracking this V. Royt Hill or descendants > down. > The Voyt data has been seriously questioned for years. Byron Hill

R. Voyt Hill was a very old man when he died maybe 15 years ago. He & my aunt had corresponded extensively. He was researching the Thomas & Catherine Shropshire Hill family out of White Co, Tn. However, I never saw anything in their correspondence to tie this family with the Senator. I believe Joab is the brother of the above-named Thomas Hill, a Revolutionary Soldier. Be careful of the conclusions of R. Voyt; I've found conflicting documents more recently. Ann _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Hello everyone, I came across several HILL families in the FOD records for St. Briavels area. Does anyone have these families in their records? I am trying to link any of them to my relations. Would greatly appreciate any information - especially the ones in coalmining (tinworks). Best Regards, Rachel Hill Listed in the 1891 Census Records Thomas Hill - 55, Farm Servent (Harry and Minnie Biddle) - Cainsharm Farm, Cainsharm, Woolaston Brewery Stores, Riflemans Arms, Lydney John HILL - 30, Publican (Beerhouse) - Middlesex, Fulham Mary A. - 28, wife, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire Fanny E, - 6 Lydney Fredrick L. - 4 Lydney Rose A. -3, Lydney Maud A. - 1, Lydney Whitecliff Joesph Hill, 48 Coalminer, Whitecliff Mary A. - 38 Wife, Leowles William (nephew) 20 - Coalminer, Whitecliff Redbrook John Hill 68 -Labour in Tinworks, Mitcheltroy, Monmouthshire Temperance 64- wife, Llandoys nr. Chepstew John 26 - Tinman, Newland James 24 - Labour in Tinworks, Newland St. James Bream Matilda Hill 15 - Servent, General Domestic, West Dean Glos. Ellwood, West Dean, St. Pauls Parish William G Hill 37 - Gardener West Dean Mary 33 - wife Newland Parish Emily M. 6 - West Dean John William 8 mos. - West Dean

Hi there Janet The HILL surname is very popular and found all over the world. However with England being the starting point for family members to emigrate, I presume we can assume that ancestors with the surname originally originated from the UK, especially when we take the USA and South Africa into the equation. (I'm only mentioning USA and SA because of your connection plus my own) Elizabeth and Charles HILL is also a very popular parent's name it also seems, you asked for any thoughts so here are mine. The connection to the HILL family comes from South Africa. There are so many HILL families, one cannot seem to keep up. However, I'm posting what I have. You never know. You might just find a connection. I'm looking for James HILL. (B. 1801 D. 5 July 1877) He was the father of Isabella that married Frederick Waarde HENWICK. It seems that Isabella could have been a child from a 2nd marriage as she was born when James was ± 50 years old. Charles (B. 1779 D. 6/5/1856) Passenger list has him - B. 1782, but the death certificate has him dying at the age of 77. Elizabeth/Agnes (B. 17175) Elizabeth is on the passenger list but on death certificate it is Agnes. Children James (B. 1801 D. 5/7/1877) Passenger list has him - B. 1805, but death certificate has him dying at the age of 76. Jane (B. 1806) - No details. Elizabeth (B.1810) married Thomas MILLS (B. 1799) Dates not confirmed, but Elizabeth died at 99 years old. Charles (B. 1812) married Wilhelmina BARENDS (No birth details) Henry (B. 1812) married Clarissa Anne Seadon CROFT (B. 1818) The whole HILL family came out on the Sir George Osborn and disembarked in Algoa Bay, latter settling in the Albany District in and around Salem. I think that's why the HENWICK's were all under the impressions that they were from the 1820 Settler descent, which they weren't. Kind Regards, Becky Port Elizabeth, South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: [HILL-L] ??TN Cousin of Sen Benj. Harvey Hill of GA > Hello Everyone, > > About a year ago I inherited my two aunt's personal papers, correspondence, > genealogy files. I of course, went through the genealogy files quickly and > found some correspondence 1941 from a V. Royt Hill of Birmingham Alabama to a > third party regarding his Hill ancestors (seemingly not Isaac Hill and > Lucinda Wallace) being cousins of Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. Since then > I have not been successful in tracking this V. Royt Hill or descendants down. > > However, I am finally going through the mounds of other correspondence, and I > found another similar letter from V. Royt Hill to a third party ("Charles and > Elizabeth") of greater interest. It was apparently sent from one aunt to the > other in the "regular" correspondence pile. There are several names in the > following paragraph, and I and probably Jackie and others will wonder if > anyone can identify them and their ancestry. > > In sum what we have is a JOAB HILL with a brother THOMAS. Joab is a great > grandfather of V. ROYT HILL, writing in 1941. The brother Thomas has a son > HENRY TAYLOR HILL, who according to his daughter MARY HILL BOX, for a while > left home in TN and went into NC or GA and stayed with the father or > grandfather of BEN HILL of Ga, who was a cousin or relative. The writer > expresses the need for more verification, perhaps because it 'looks good" to > claim a relationship with Senator Benjamin Harvey Hill. > > Here is the paragraph, following some references to Senator Ben Hill and the > book the Hills of Wilkes County, GA: > > "I had a letter from Mrs. Mary Hill Box, a grand daugghter of Thomas Hill. > (He was a brother to my great grandfather Joab Hill.) In this letter she > states that her father Henry Taylor Hill, when a young man left home and went > into N.C. or Ga. from Tenn. and stayed for some time with a cousin or > relative who was the father of or grandfather of Ben Hill of Ga. However, I > want more verification than this." > > Regarding his possible skepticism of the claim of cousinhood. I can > understand. All the while his children & grandchildren, frustrated by his > silence on the matter, had been researching the ancestry of my illegit. Hugh > Lawson White Hill, b. 1840 inWarren Co TN and had decided he was the son of > HLW Hill, b. 1810 there...nevertheless whichever one of them was writing his > obituary said he was the nephew of Civil War General A. P. Hill, who unless I > am way off the mark, has no known relationship to the descendants of Isaac > Hill and Lucinda Wallace that lived in Warren Co TN. > > Any thoughts? > > Best Regards, > Janet Hunter > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Attached files are not allowed on this list. The server will remove them from your email. If you need to send a file to someone, > please do so directly to the intended recipient. Thank you! > >

Ann, Thank you for the response. Unlike my aunts (:-), I thought his letter was cautious, saying he needed more verification for the stated connection in Mary Box Hill's letter. He sent a chart, including Isaac and Lucinda Wallace Hill's family, but it is basically the same that Jackie has if memory serves. Janet In a message dated 7/26/2002 6:40:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > R. Voyt Hill was a very old man when he died maybe 15 years ago. He & my > aunt had corresponded extensively. He was researching the Thomas & > Catherine > Shropshire Hill family out of White Co, Tn. However, I never saw anything > in > their correspondence to tie this family with the Senator. I believe Joab > is > the brother of the above-named Thomas Hill, a Revolutionary Soldier. Be > careful of the conclusions of R. Voyt; I've found conflicting documents > more > recently. Ann

Jackie, Regarding your question repeated below, I cannot estimate ages other than to say that V. Royt Hill is probably in his 50s in 1941 because he sounds sort of avuncular and mentions unnamed adult children. There are only four letters from him and they are mostly chatty. They are from V. Royt Hill to what sounds like HIS Hill cousin, who met int he course of the day my Aunt Wilma in Louisiana and they started talking about Hill family genealogy generally. It doesn't sound like any cousinhood had been established. He is writing to "Charles and Elizabeth" because they wrote to him on behalf of my Aunt Wilma and Aunt Katheryne (who summered in Louisiana, while teaching in Virginia) MOST IMPORTANT, is that V. Royt Hill is NOT a descendant of Isaac Hill and Lucinda Wallace, but he mentions HIS earlier relatives as saying they have a relationship with Sen. Ben Harvey Hill's ancestors. That is why if anyone can recognize the Joab, Thomas, Henry Taylor Hill, Mary Hill Box I thought it might help us get a grip on Isaac Hill's ancestry. Janet Jackie asked: "In a message dated 7/26/2002 4:49:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Based on what you know (if anything)of the letter writers' ages, > can you give us a rough estimate of the dates of birth for Joab Hill, > his brother Thomas, the son Henry Taylor Hill and his daughter Mary > Hill Box, as well as this V. Royt Hill? Henry Taylor Hill, if he > stayed with Sen. B. H. Hill's family in GA must have lived aprox. > during 1845-1882, since Sen. Hill was b. 1823, married in 1845 and > died in 1882. If he stayed with Sen. Hill's father, John J. Hill, > the latter lived 1745 to 1848 and married in 1806. This would make > Henry Taylor Hill necessarily older if he stayed with the Senator's > father. It isn't likely he stayed with Isaac Hill, Sr., the > grandfather of Sen. B. H. Hill, because Isaac, after moving to TN in > 1816, lived out the rest of his life in TN and died there in 1825. >

Janet, The notes you have uncovered are very interesting and I would think bear looking into. Since your post I have gone over many of my own files and books, searching for any of the Hill names you mentioned that might fit but have come up empty. I have the book, "The Hills of Wilkes Co., GA" but cannot find the names Joab Hill or Henry Taylor Hill anywhere in the index. Still, as large and extended as Sen. Hill's family was, with various relatives living in GA, AL, TN, MO, AR and TX all at the same time, it is certainly conceivable that a cousin could have stayed with him or other Hill family members. There are many references to friends and family coming and going, neices and nephews boarding with aunts, uncles and grandparents at various times, sometimes for schooling and others just to visit for long periods. Since this Henry Taylor Hill supposedly came from TN as a young man, my suggestion would be to start digging in and around Warren Co., TN. As you know, Isaac Hill, Sr., his son Henry John Alexander Hill, and other sons and grandchildren were firmly settled in this area by 1816. I would look not only in McMinnville, Warren Co., TN, but also in some of the neighboring counties of Coffee, Grundy, Van Buren and White. (There are probably more but I'm not looking at my Atlas at the moment) Based on what you know (if anything)of the letter writers' ages, can you give us a rough estimate of the dates of birth for Joab Hill, his brother Thomas, the son Henry Taylor Hill and his daughter Mary Hill Box, as well as this V. Royt Hill? Henry Taylor Hill, if he stayed with Sen. B. H. Hill's family in GA must have lived aprox. during 1845-1882, since Sen. Hill was b. 1823, married in 1845 and died in 1882. If he stayed with Sen. Hill's father, John J. Hill, the latter lived 1745 to 1848 and married in 1806. This would make Henry Taylor Hill necessarily older if he stayed with the Senator's father. It isn't likely he stayed with Isaac Hill, Sr., the grandfather of Sen. B. H. Hill, because Isaac, after moving to TN in 1816, lived out the rest of his life in TN and died there in 1825. I did happen to find a 6 yr. old Joab Hill on the 1860 census for White Co., TN as follows: (However there is no brother Thomas, although perhaps Thomas was not yet born. I have no idea of the relationship of the James Broyles and Merril Wilson found in the same household) P185-39 HILL August 4, 1860 - District 12, Sparta PO 1300/1285 James A. 37 M W Farmer Tn Hulda 30 F W Tn Franklin C. 10 M W Tn Joab 6 M W Tn James M BROYLES 35 M W Farm Laborer Tn Merril WILSON 30 F (B) Boot & Show Ma This would put Joab Hill b. abt. 1854 and therefore not a likely candidate to be the father of the Henry Taylor Hill who left TN to live for a time with the Hills in GA. I mention this simply because there are a number of Hills in the counties bordering Warren Co., TN who may be related to the Isaac Hill, Sr. line in some fashion. My other thought on this, would be to pursue the unusual middle name of V. Royt Hill. The middle name may well be his mother's family name. Joab is also a name I've never seen in the Isaac Hill, Sr. line, but it could also come from his maternal side of the family. The names Henry, Thomas and Mary are of course found in this line, but are fairly common names overall. Thanks for sharing. It has given us some more food for thought. Jackie ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com

I am looking for a MARY ANN HILL born about 1798 in Virginia. Married THOMAS C. HUTTON born about 1798 in Virginia. They were married about 1815 in Washington County, Virginia. I find a WALTER HILL in the 1810 Washington County, VA census. A BENJAMIN HILL & WALTER HILL in the 1820 Washington County, VA census. I find a BENJAMIN HILL in the 1830 Washington County, VA census. THOMAS C. HILL is also in the 1830 Washington County, VA census. I am trying to determine if MARY ANN HILL was related to BENJAMIN and or WALTER HILL. I would appreciate any information on the above people. Thank you, Judy Bisig