Hi Terry, I would be most happy to contribute my Hill information to such a site. My Hill file contains over 1,600 Hills and related persons. For those interested at this time my Hill line starts with David Hill as noted below. I would like to hear from anyone who is connected to this line or think he/she may be connected. I will be very glad to exchange information or supply any information I have. David Hill - B. c 1680, Co., Antrim, Belfast, Northern Ireland M. 1, c 1715 to Jane, Belfast, Northern Ireland C. First born c 1715, 6 others as known, 4 sons & 2 daughters. M. 2, c 1730 to unknown name, Belfast, Northern Ireland C. One known child born c 1730. D. C 1740, Belfast, Northern Ireland James Hill - B. c 1716, Co., Antrim, Belfast, Northern Ireland M. c 1738 to Elizabeth Stephenson Sloan C. 5 sons & 2 daughters D. 1760/61, Lancaster Co., PA Robert Hill * See below James Hill, Jr. B. c 1745, Lancaster Co., PA M. 1, c 1765 to Jane Logan, Iredell Co., NC C. 3 sons & 4 daughters M 2, c 1775 to Margaret Stevenson, Iredell Co., NC C. 1 son & 1 daughter D. c 1779, Iredell Co., NC James Hill, III B. c 1770, Iredell Co., NC M. 4 Sep 1790 to Jane Bone, Iredell Co., NC C. 6 sons & 5 daughters D. c 1825, Hopkins Co., KY James Hill, IV B. 4 Sep 1799, Hopkins Co., KY M. 6 Sep 1826 to Elmyra Smith, Hopkins Co., Ky C. 4 sons & 3 daughters D. 1844/49, Hopkins Co., KY * Robert Hill B. c 1739, Ireland M. c 1757 to Margaret Stephenson, Ireland C. 2 sons & 1 daughter M. 2 c 1763 to Mary Logan, Lancaster Co., PA C. 1 infant, 5 sons & 1 daughter D. 12 Jan 1800, Iredell Co., NC NOTE: I have a lot of information on the descendants of Robert through the 1900.

In a message dated 11/7/02 2:04:55 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > We are looking for family of Henry Hill born Wake Co. NC 1763. Need to find > a link from either one of his brothers or one of his son's other than > Nelson. Possibly Joseph H. who was born 1790-1800. We have a DNA match > between one of Henry's descendants and one of William S. Hill's who was > born in NC and was in Lincoln Co. TN by 1850. Dear Terry Ann, Is this the family you have in mind? It's not my immediate family, but my Hills came from the same area of NC, through Wilkes County, GA, to Mooresville, AL -- just across the Tennessee River from Decatur, county seat of Morgan County, AL. I've always suspected strongly that these two Hill families were related, but I've never connected them yet. Please let me know anything you have on this line, and I'll help you any way I can. Maybe we can gang up on this gang. Al Hill PS, My main source for the outline below is a Hill board posting from Sharon Minton Hill: [email protected] in April of last year. Descendants of Henry Hill, Sr. 1 Henry Hill, Sr. 1763 - 1854 b: 1763 in Granville Dist, SC d: September 23, 1854 in Somerville, Morgan Co, AL .. +Sarah Elizabeth Cox 1764 - 1866 b: Abt. 1764 in SC d: January 28, 1866 in Valhermoso Springs, Morgan Co, AL m: Bef. 1786 ... 2 Rebecca Hill 1790 - b: 1790 in NC ... 2 Allen G. HIll 1792 - 1850 b: Abt. 1792 in NC d: Bef. 1850 in Shelby Co, AL ....... +Lydia [Hill] ........ 3 Isaiah W. (Isiah) Hill 1807 - b: Abt. 1807 ........ 3 Mary Hill 1808 - b: 1808 in TN ............ +Richard Williams ........ 3 Louisa Hill 1810 - b: 1810 in TN ............ +Joseph Ryan m: July 31, 1832 ........ 3 Henry J. Hill 1814 - b: 1814 in TN ............ +Emily [Hill] ........ 3 Elizabeth Hill 1818 - b: July 27, 1818 ............ +Perry H. Lee ........ 3 Allen G. Hill 1830 - b: 1830 ............ +Margaret [HIll] ........ 3 Sally (Sarah) Hill 1832 - b: Abt. 1832 ............ +Wofford Gilly ... 2 Alfred Hill 1795 - 1854 b: 1795 in TN d: Bef. 1854 in AR ....... +Elizabeth [Hill] ........ 3 Thomas Jefferson Hill 1820 - b: 1820 in TN ............ +Elizabeth [Hill] ........ 3 William Hill 1822 - b: 1822 in AL ............ +Laura [Hill] 1831 - b: 1831 m: in AL ........ 3 Frank (Francis M.) Hill 1829 - b: 1829 in AL ........ 3 Alfred W. Hill 1832 - b: 1832 in AL ........ 3 Rufus K. Hill 1834 - b: 1834 in AL ............ +Joanna [Hill] m: 1853 in AR ........ 3 Charles H. Hill 1836 - b: 1836 in AL ........ 3 John J. Hill 1839 - b: 1839 in AL ............ +Mattie [Hill] m: 1867 in AR ........ 3 Albert Hill 1842 - b: 1842 in AL ........ 3 Susanna Hill 1845 - b: 1845 in AL ............ +Thomas Choate ... 2 James Hill 1796 - 1854 b: 1796 in NC d: Bef. 1854 in Hamilton Co, TN ....... +Sarah [Hill] ........ 3 Nancy Hill 1818 - b: 1818 ............ +John Guyer m: January 17, 1837 in AL ........ 3 Mary Hill 1825 - b: 1825 ............ +Royalty ??? ........ 3 Sarah Hill 1828 - b: 1828 ............ +John Campbell ........ 3 Martha J. Hill 1832 - b: 1832 ............ +Joseph Bell m: April 09, 1850 in AL ... 2 Henry Hill, Jr. 1803 - 1870 b: 1803 in SC d: 1870 in Titus Co, TX ....... +Charity Austin 1803 - b: Abt. 1803 in Decatur, Morgan Co, AL m: May 09, 1825 in Decatur, Morgan Co, AL ........ 3 John Charles Hill 1826 - 1905 b: January 04, 1826 in Morgan Co, AL d: September 26, 1905 in AR ............ +Susan E. Hill m: June 28, 1857 in AR ........ 3 Allen Monroe Hill 1829 - b: 1829 in AL ............ +Elizabeth Lovey Gunn 1835 - b: Abt. 1835 in AL m: July 29, 1852 in Lafayette Co, AR ............. 4 James Hill 1855 - b: 1855 in Upshur Co, TX ............. 4 Edward Hill 1858 - b: 1858 in Upshur Co, TX ........ 3 George Washington Hill, Sr. 1830 - b: June 22, 1830 in AL ............ +Louisa Jane Tackett 1850 - b: Abt. 1850 in Franklin Co, AL ........ 3 Benjamin Hill 1833 - b: 1833 in AL ............ +Lena Tackett m: Abt. 1850 ........ 3 Nancy Jane Hill 1835 - b: 1835 in AL ........ 3 Richard Henderson Hill 1836 - 1892 b: 1836 in AL? d: Abt. 1892 in Mt. Vernon, Franklin Co, TX ............ +Caroline [Hill] m: 1856 ........ 3 William Green Hill 1838 - 1870 b: 1838 in AL d: 1870 in Titus Co, TX ........ 3 Mary Elizabeth Hill 1840 - 1920 b: 1840 in AL d: June 30, 1920 in Montgomery Co, AR ............ +____ Blake m: 1868 ... 2 Lucinda Hill 1804 - b: 1804 ... 2 Sally (Sarah) Hill 1805 - b: 1805 ... 2 John Thomas Hill 1806 - b: 1806 ... 2 Nancy Jane Hill 1812 - b: 1812

Hello Hill Descendants! Terry's idea is great and I look forward to seeing it happen. For now, here is a website I have for my Abraham Hill descendants of the Anderson District, South Carolina, and northeast Georgia. If any of you are kin to this Abraham Hill please contact me. One of the descendants of this man is writing a family history for publication and we'd love to have you in it! Thanks, Donna Schwieder, Summers, Arkansas http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~southron/Hill

I am willing to share what I have, although it is small. I am researching the Joel Hill line out of Columbus Co. NC @1750- Jennie

No. :-) Welcome. Terry > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:38:09 +1100 > From: "Susan Adam" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: [HILL-L] Hill Australia > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, Is this list only for Hill's who settled in USA? Sue in Australia >

Hello, I am steal searching on cences and other records on Elijah Hill b 1830-33 in Ga. married to Delphia Payne b 1818-1837. of NC I think. If anyone can help me find this on them please e-mail me. I will be very thankful.Thanks and have a good day. Sandra

We are looking for family of Henry Hill born Wake Co. NC 1763. Need to find a link from either one of his brothers or one of his son's other than Nelson. Possibly Joseph H. who was born 1790-1800. We have a DNA match between one of Henry's descendants and one of William S. Hill's who was born in NC and was in Lincoln Co. TN by 1850. Please let us know if you have any info on this line. Thanks, Terry Ann

Always share Sandra Hazel Green, AL

Jerilyn, It's great that you have that. Could you share John & Obediance's linage with me? All that I have is the list of their children. As you know, I have a lot on Cynthia. Wanda

Terry, This is a tremendous idea! I would be willing to share my data. Chip and Carmel Hill Huntsville, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Hill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: [HILL-L] Woww!! Hill Surname Research > Hello again one and all! > > All I can say is WoW! :-) > > I want to thank everyone of such an enthusiastic response to my > proposal! And I think this is an early testament to the potential > this could have for us all - in only just a few hours we have had a > stream of great ideas, feed-back and even offered monies! It has > been a long time since I have seen such willingness. > > Given all of the feed back thus far - and hopefully even more in the > future - what I would suggest is the following: > > * Everyone please continue sending your thoughts, ideas and offers > for volunteerism to me - either directly or via the HILL-Digest. If > traffic for this gets too heavy, Byron may opt for you to contact me > directly. > > * I will start compiling a list of people who wish to contribute > their info., their time, their skills & their money (if it turns out > we would need it - but hopefully we won't need it) for the next week > or so. I will then report back and try and give everyone an update > as to how things have developed. > > * I will pursue some of the free web space options - and see what > kind of strings come attached, and report back and see what the > consensus might be. > > * Please send in ideas as to how you think it might be easiest to > show family line information, along with family migration and > importantly, documentation. I have some ideas on this, but would > prefer to hear from others. > > * As soon as we have a server location defined and the backbone of > the site set-up, ideally I think it would be great to have different > people maintain different areas. This way it gets more people > involved, it helps spread out the work and responsibility, and it can > belong to us all. > > Again, thanks so much for the welcome response, but please don't let > the enthusiasm fade, as this will not all happen over night and will > take some work. > > Looking forward to hearing from you all, > > Terry Hill > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Where do you send queries?...send them to [email protected] > Where do you send unsub and sub commands?... send them to > [email protected] > > >

Terry Hill Your idea is really one worth the effort of each of us, hopefully Byron will have some great ideas as to how we may bring this about. I would be most happy to contribute my Hill research which is more than 11,000 to the effort. Ron Hill Sautee Nacoochee, GA

Hi, all! I'm reading this book for my history class called "Killer Angels". It's a book about the battle at Gettysburg in the civil war. At the beginning of the book, it gives a brief description of the key leaders of both the confederate and the union armies for this battle. There is a brief description of Ambrose Powell Hill. "Ambrose Powell Hill, Major General, thirty-seven. Has risen to command the other part of Jackson's old crop. A moody man, often competent, bad-tempered, wealthy, aspires to a place in Richmond society, frets and broods and fights with superiors. He wears a read shirt into battle. He should be a fine soldier, and sometimes is, but he is often ill for no apparent reason. He does not like to follow orders. At Gettysburg he will command a corps, and he will be sick again." Melinda

Hello again one and all! All I can say is WoW! :-) I want to thank everyone of such an enthusiastic response to my proposal! And I think this is an early testament to the potential this could have for us all - in only just a few hours we have had a stream of great ideas, feed-back and even offered monies! It has been a long time since I have seen such willingness. Given all of the feed back thus far - and hopefully even more in the future - what I would suggest is the following: * Everyone please continue sending your thoughts, ideas and offers for volunteerism to me - either directly or via the HILL-Digest. If traffic for this gets too heavy, Byron may opt for you to contact me directly. * I will start compiling a list of people who wish to contribute their info., their time, their skills & their money (if it turns out we would need it - but hopefully we won't need it) for the next week or so. I will then report back and try and give everyone an update as to how things have developed. * I will pursue some of the free web space options - and see what kind of strings come attached, and report back and see what the consensus might be. * Please send in ideas as to how you think it might be easiest to show family line information, along with family migration and importantly, documentation. I have some ideas on this, but would prefer to hear from others. * As soon as we have a server location defined and the backbone of the site set-up, ideally I think it would be great to have different people maintain different areas. This way it gets more people involved, it helps spread out the work and responsibility, and it can belong to us all. Again, thanks so much for the welcome response, but please don't let the enthusiasm fade, as this will not all happen over night and will take some work. Looking forward to hearing from you all, Terry Hill

<PRE>I don't have a lot on the Hill family, but have quite a bit on the descendants of John and Obedience Cullum Hill from family records. I am just now getting to work on the Hill line as have been working on several northern lines for years. Jerilyn

I'm willing to donate $100.00 to get this started. Just let me know? Sandra

How about we all donate a little money for the space to put the site on. I mean how much could it cost if each one of us contribute. I have built my own site from the ground up and can help in that way. I would be willing to make the effort to get the space to put it on. I just think tho that we should have one, two or so people do the work of keeping it up. Otherwise it will be a big mess, with people trying to add, change, delete etc. It would be a time consuming task and one person would get burn-out mighty fast. It would be nice if the ones who were to run it lived in close proximity to one another. But they might not have to. How about taking turns? maybe a week or month at a stretch? Hey, I don't want to sound like I am running things here. I am just making some suggestions to those who do. Just suggestions. Others may have better suggestions. How about it Terry, are you up to it. (or someone)? Mel Hill [email protected] or [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merryann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: RE: [HILL-L] Hill Surname Research - Important! > I love it!!! > > Do we have anyone out there who can donate the server space? I'm willing to > assist with the website development (please note I said "assist", not "do"). > > Merryann Palmer > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terry Hill [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HILL-L] Hill Surname Research - Important! > > > Hello one and all! > > I have been reading and participating in the HILL Digest for several > years and have seen the boon to the Hill surname research. And it has > done my heart good, especially when one compares it to the relatively > unorganized attempt of other surname research groups. > > With the advent of the HILL DNA effort that is being spear-headed by > Ray Hill, the HILL Digest under the loving care of Byron Hill, and > one or two other major web-based discussion groups, I think that we > have all of the right (and necessary) tools to take HILL research to > the next important level. > > What I am proposing is this: > * A serious, highly organized attempt by all of us, using all the > tools listed above, to systematically lay down the origins of our for > fathers and their path across the US. I am not in anyway implying > that we are not all serious about our research. I am simply saying > that after years of researching dead-ends, we some times settle for > loose connections at best or do not flush out all the facts with > sufficient documentation or detail - can you tell I'm an engineer?! > :-) > > * I propose one site, which links together all of the above tools, > where Hill researchers can congregate to collect, add to and help > chart out the Hill's history in the US. > > * In addition to what the existing tools listed, I propose the next > tool which will let us take the paradigm shift needed to make this a > truly remarkable research effort: Establish on-line family lines > research pages where a common family line can selflessly document > their research (from many different researchers) so that it can be > offered up for peer review, discussion and/or correction. > > This last item will take considerable work, but I believe that if we > can get it set up (exact format & implementation to be determined) it > would be an invaluable tool to help ferret-out any mistakes, > erroneous data & help tie together family lines. I offer up my > services in what ever form they are needed and I'm sure if people are > interested we can have continuing discussions on the scope and > implementation of it all. > > To try and wrap-up my note for today, let me say that I see such > great potential of such an undertaking that would have nothing but > tremendous benefits for the HILL genealogy cause. After all, we are > not doing this for our own personal gain or glory, so lets see what > we can accomplish. > > Thank you, > > Terry Hill > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Feel free to contact the listowner for > help at: [email protected] > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Attached files are not allowed on this list. The server will remove them from your email. If you need to send a file to someone, > please do so directly to the intended recipient. Thank you! >

Terry, This is a wonderful suggestion. We have (probable) descents from Jordan Hill of North Carolina. We can provide a number of names for this proposed Hill family research project. Good luck! Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Terry Hill [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HILL-L] Hill Surname Research - Important! Hello one and all! I have been reading and participating in the HILL Digest for several years and have seen the boon to the Hill surname research. And it has done my heart good, especially when one compares it to the relatively unorganized attempt of other surname research groups. With the advent of the HILL DNA effort that is being spear-headed by Ray Hill, the HILL Digest under the loving care of Byron Hill, and one or two other major web-based discussion groups, I think that we have all of the right (and necessary) tools to take HILL research to the next important level. What I am proposing is this: * A serious, highly organized attempt by all of us, using all the tools listed above, to systematically lay down the origins of our for fathers and their path across the US. I am not in anyway implying that we are not all serious about our research. I am simply saying that after years of researching dead-ends, we some times settle for loose connections at best or do not flush out all the facts with sufficient documentation or detail - can you tell I'm an engineer?! :-) * I propose one site, which links together all of the above tools, where Hill researchers can congregate to collect, add to and help chart out the Hill's history in the US. * In addition to what the existing tools listed, I propose the next tool which will let us take the paradigm shift needed to make this a truly remarkable research effort: Establish on-line family lines research pages where a common family line can selflessly document their research (from many different researchers) so that it can be offered up for peer review, discussion and/or correction. This last item will take considerable work, but I believe that if we can get it set up (exact format & implementation to be determined) it would be an invaluable tool to help ferret-out any mistakes, erroneous data & help tie together family lines. I offer up my services in what ever form they are needed and I'm sure if people are interested we can have continuing discussions on the scope and implementation of it all. To try and wrap-up my note for today, let me say that I see such great potential of such an undertaking that would have nothing but tremendous benefits for the HILL genealogy cause. After all, we are not doing this for our own personal gain or glory, so lets see what we can accomplish. Thank you, Terry Hill ==== HILL Mailing List ==== Questions about this list? Feel free to contact the listowner for help at: [email protected]

My sentiments too. GREAT IDEA!!!!! Would there be way to do it on a Yahoo Group?? I'm not at all web site literate but do belong to a group on yahoo that allows the posting of pictures. I would think that a family tree in text format would take less hard drive space than a bunch of pictures. David Hill

I joined the Hill list to find connections to William Hardin Hill Sr. and Hescenia Smallwood, as a consequence I "collected" a lot of "Green" and "Greenberry" Hills (and other "Greenberry" surnames). Although all of this is interesting to me, it ends up being undocumented. I can offer probably only two pieces of "proof" for a couple of Hills that are truly part of my line. Do you propose that we gather everything from all resources, or just those which are documented? I agree that those researchers on the Hill line are far more active than some other families. I only wish I were more closely related than a single marriage of a male "Cross" to a female "Hill". Were it so, I would be much farther ahead in my research than I am! Any contribution that I can make, I will gladly offer. In the mean time, I will still be "eavesdropping" until someone ( or I) post the ancestors of William Hardin Hill!!! Let me know when you are ready for my two pieces of "proof". Janis Anne Cross, great grand-daughter of Estella Hill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Willoughby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: RE: [HILL-L] Hill Surname Research - Important! > Great ideas, Terry. I will join in your efforts. > > Jack Willoughby > Roseville, CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terry Hill [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HILL-L] Hill Surname Research - Important! > > > Hello one and all! > > I have been reading and participating in the HILL Digest for several > years and have seen the boon to the Hill surname research. And it has > done my heart good, especially when one compares it to the relatively > unorganized attempt of other surname research groups. > > With the advent of the HILL DNA effort that is being spear-headed by > Ray Hill, the HILL Digest under the loving care of Byron Hill, and > one or two other major web-based discussion groups, I think that we > have all of the right (and necessary) tools to take HILL research to > the next important level. > > What I am proposing is this: > * A serious, highly organized attempt by all of us, using all the > tools listed above, to systematically lay down the origins of our for > fathers and their path across the US. I am not in anyway implying > that we are not all serious about our research. I am simply saying > that after years of researching dead-ends, we some times settle for > loose connections at best or do not flush out all the facts with > sufficient documentation or detail - can you tell I'm an engineer?! > :-) > > * I propose one site, which links together all of the above tools, > where Hill researchers can congregate to collect, add to and help > chart out the Hill's history in the US. > > * In addition to what the existing tools listed, I propose the next > tool which will let us take the paradigm shift needed to make this a > truly remarkable research effort: Establish on-line family lines > research pages where a common family line can selflessly document > their research (from many different researchers) so that it can be > offered up for peer review, discussion and/or correction. > > This last item will take considerable work, but I believe that if we > can get it set up (exact format & implementation to be determined) it > would be an invaluable tool to help ferret-out any mistakes, > erroneous data & help tie together family lines. I offer up my > services in what ever form they are needed and I'm sure if people are > interested we can have continuing discussions on the scope and > implementation of it all. > > To try and wrap-up my note for today, let me say that I see such > great potential of such an undertaking that would have nothing but > tremendous benefits for the HILL genealogy cause. After all, we are > not doing this for our own personal gain or glory, so lets see what > we can accomplish. > > Thank you, > > Terry Hill > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Questions about this list? Feel free to contact the listowner for > help at: [email protected] > > > > ==== HILL Mailing List ==== > Attached files are not allowed on this list. The server will remove them from your email. If you need to send a file to someone, > please do so directly to the intended recipient. Thank you! >

I love it!!! Do we have anyone out there who can donate the server space? I'm willing to assist with the website development (please note I said "assist", not "do"). Merryann Palmer [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Terry Hill [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [HILL-L] Hill Surname Research - Important! Hello one and all! I have been reading and participating in the HILL Digest for several years and have seen the boon to the Hill surname research. And it has done my heart good, especially when one compares it to the relatively unorganized attempt of other surname research groups. With the advent of the HILL DNA effort that is being spear-headed by Ray Hill, the HILL Digest under the loving care of Byron Hill, and one or two other major web-based discussion groups, I think that we have all of the right (and necessary) tools to take HILL research to the next important level. What I am proposing is this: * A serious, highly organized attempt by all of us, using all the tools listed above, to systematically lay down the origins of our for fathers and their path across the US. I am not in anyway implying that we are not all serious about our research. I am simply saying that after years of researching dead-ends, we some times settle for loose connections at best or do not flush out all the facts with sufficient documentation or detail - can you tell I'm an engineer?! :-) * I propose one site, which links together all of the above tools, where Hill researchers can congregate to collect, add to and help chart out the Hill's history in the US. * In addition to what the existing tools listed, I propose the next tool which will let us take the paradigm shift needed to make this a truly remarkable research effort: Establish on-line family lines research pages where a common family line can selflessly document their research (from many different researchers) so that it can be offered up for peer review, discussion and/or correction. This last item will take considerable work, but I believe that if we can get it set up (exact format & implementation to be determined) it would be an invaluable tool to help ferret-out any mistakes, erroneous data & help tie together family lines. I offer up my services in what ever form they are needed and I'm sure if people are interested we can have continuing discussions on the scope and implementation of it all. To try and wrap-up my note for today, let me say that I see such great potential of such an undertaking that would have nothing but tremendous benefits for the HILL genealogy cause. After all, we are not doing this for our own personal gain or glory, so lets see what we can accomplish. Thank you, Terry Hill ==== HILL Mailing List ==== Questions about this list? Feel free to contact the listowner for help at: [email protected]