This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Cei.2ACEB/1242.1718.2.1 Message Board Post: Terry, I found the dates of Armena Jane's marriage to John Upchurch and Tilmon's marriage to Mrs. Martha Jones, and they indicate that Martha couldn't have been Armena Jane's mother. By the way, I got a photo of Armena Jane's tombstone Saturday. For more info, contact me: [email protected] what family were you researching? Charlotte