A marriage of Margreta SCHMITT and Johannes SACHS took place in 1835 in Lindenfels, Hesse Darmstadt. I am supposedly the descendent of the first child of that union, Elisabeth SACHS. What I have found was that Catharina Elisabetha SCHMITTIN was the first child of Margreta SCHMITT born in 1831, four years before Margreta married Johannes SACHS. Johannes was probably, in fact most likely, was not the father. Johannes was the son of Johannes SACHS and Eva Elisabetha BRAUER. Logically these people are not part of my line, but according to the writings, obituaries, etc. of Catharina Elisabetha SCHMITTIN she considered Johannes SACHS her father. What do you do in this consideration? In most other illegitimate lines there is not male line to follow. Do you still consider the SACHS male line as part of your family or do you stop searching on that part of the line? Thanks Jay -- Jay E. Frank