Hello Christoph, Thank you once again for the information on Simmern (Westerwald) & Simmern unter Dhaun, pre 1815. It is important to know how to reference places as they were known within the time frame of our ancestors birth, before they migrated to another country. Great info Christoph. Kindest regards, Elizabeth At 05:38 AM 18/11/2003 +0000, you wrote: Dear Gay & Elizabeth, The Simmern I have written about is the Simmern (Hunsrück). The Simmern (Westerwald) was part of one of the many Nassau principalities. Simmern unter Dhaun is today part of the town Simmertal (55618), it was until 1815 in the area of the Rheingrafen. If some one of you interested in I can check up if it was after 1815 part of Prussia, Birkenfeld or Hessen-Darmstadt... Christoph -- Haupt'S finden&suchen Christoph Haupt Am Friedenstal 1/3 D-30627 Hannover TEL: +511 522313 FAX: +511 8793208 eMail: chg.C.Haupt@t-online.de www.haupt-researcher.de