In a message dated 6/27/04 4:30:58 PM, all4lrb@cox.net writes: << Two of my great-grandparents came from Hessen-Darmstadt, Starkenburg in the period 1865-1890, one from Ober Kinzig and the other from Erbach. I can't find any LDS microfilms for these two areas. Does anyone know of any source I can use to find the records for these two families? The VOLK family came from Ober Kinzig and the SEIFERT family came from Erbach. >> There are four places in Hessen by the name Erbach, one place called Ober-Kinzig, in Kr. Erbach, so perhaps the Erbach you're interested in is Erbach, Kr. Erbach. There are church records in the Family History Library available for rental for all four Erbach places, as well as historical records, emigration, etc. For the Erbach, Kr Erbach: Title Kirchenbuch, 1600-1875 Authors Evangelische Kirche Erbach (KrSt. Erbach) Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths and confirmations for Erbach (KrSt. Erbach), Hessen, Germany. Includes Ebersberg, Elsbach, Erbuch, Erlenbach, Ernsbach, Lauerbach, Günterfürst, Heisterbach, Roßbach and Schönnen. Text in German and Latin. Taufen, Tote, Heiraten 1600-1674 FHL INTL Film 1336641 Item 4 Taufen, Tote, Heiraten 1674-1726 Konfirmationen 1674-1726 Kommunionen 1674-1726 Taufen, Tote, Heiraten 1727-1777 Konfirmationen 1727-1776 Pfarrliste 1590-1762 Bußen 1728-1763 Totgeburten 1727-1779 Taufen 1777-1793 FHL INTL Film 1336642 Taufen 1793-1807 Tote, Heiraten, Konf. 1777-1807 Totgeburten, Bußen 1779-1782 Taufen 1808-1823 FHL INTL Film 1336643 Taufen 1823-1844 FHL INTL Film 1336644 Taufen 1844-1865 FHL INTL Film 1336645 Taufen 1865-1875 Heiraten 1808-1831 FHL INTL Film 1336646 Heiraten 1831-1875 FHL INTL Film 1336647 Heiraten 1875 Tote 1808-1839 FHL INTL Film 1336648 Tote 1839-1874 FHL INTL Film 1336649 Tote 1874-1875 Konfirmationen 1808-1875 FHL INTL Film 1336650 Items 1-2 --------------------------------------- Ober-Kinzig does not appear in the catalog, so they probably went to church in another community. Use Meyers Orts- und Verkehrs-Lexikon to determine that place, as well as to decide whether the above Erbach is the place for your family (another close-by Erbach is in Kr. Heppenheim). Good luck, Dona Ritchie