I want to thank everyone who took the time to respond to me question abt Hope Capel. I'm looking at the Nat. papers and it definetly says Hope Capel. It's possible the person writing out the Nat cert. that that is how he heard it, but on every other paper I have it says this realitive is from Hesse Darmstadt, so how that translate to Hope Capel is odd. Perhaps I'll get out my hystery books and see if there ever was a Duke of such place for the time. Thanks again Nancy