My wife's line includes one Johannes Happel, b. ca. 1586 in Marburg. He wed Dorothea Beer on 22 Dec 1611 in Marburg. Johannes was a shoemaker and Provost of Scholarships at Marburg Univ. He probably died prior to 1632. Johannes and Dorothea had 3 children, per our sources: Georg Eberhard, b. ca. 1613 in Marburg; Rev. Johann Conrad, b. 9 Oct 1617 in Marburg; Georg Burkhard, b. 1 Jul 1631 (ca.) in Marburg. We have the descendancy, but we're looking for help with Johannes/Dorothea, and his ancestry. I've e-mailed with Wilhelm Duchmann in Germany, whose Happel line gave appearances of being helpful, and maybe it's related, but he can't give any verification that his Johannes is the same as ours. DOES ANYONE ON THIS LIST HAVE ANY HELP FOR US?? We'll be happy to share thoughts. Dave Ross, Denver dcross4548@comcast.net All outgoing e-mail pre-scanned by McAfee AntiVirus