In a message dated 9/2/04 8:01:00 PM, HESSE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << 2 Sep 2004 From: "dave ross" <dcross4548@comcast.net> To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com <<Subject: JOHANNES HAPPEL/MARBURG/1586 <<My wife's line includes one Johannes Happel, b. ca. 1586 in Marburg. He wed Dorothea Beer on 22 Dec 1611 in Marburg. Johannes was a shoemaker and Provost of Scholarships at Marburg Univ. He probably died prior to 1632. Johannes and Dorothea had 3 children, per our sources: Georg Eberhard, b. ca. 1613 in Marburg; Rev. Johann Conrad, b. 9 Oct 1617 in Marburg; Georg <<Burkhard, b. 1 Jul 1631 (ca.) in Marburg. >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Dave, I do not know if I have specific info re. your Johannes Happel, but have plenty of Happel families in my files (all Hessen). My problem is connecting with the “right” Happel family/ families. Cousin Wilhelm Happel of Haina -Mohnhausen said OUR Happel line became known more widely because Christoph Happel was Müller of Haubern mill. The largest concentration of Happels is found in north Hessen villages: Romershausen, Dainrode, Mohnhausen, Sehlen, Rosenthal, Josbach, Wohra, Alt Heim, Wohra (now Wohratal), Gladenbach area, Waldeck, Bad Waldugen, etc. “The name Happel is more common in Marburg area than in Haina-Mohnhausen area (about 40kms apart). --------------------- Another German source in Kassel, Hessen sent the following: Michel HAPPEL named 1543 in Hersfeld, Hessen the state is called Hessen in German, a single person living here is a Hesse Jacob HAPPEL, 1544 in Hebel, near Homberg / Efze, Hessen Heintz HAPPEL, Caßdorf, nearby, 1545 Hans HAPPEL, Welferode, 1544, nearby Curdt HAPPEL, Dinkelrode, Amt Landeck, Hessen, 1543 Henn HAPPEL, same place, same year Hanns HAPPEL, Körle, 1553, near Kassel, Hessen, Heintz HAPPEL, 1545 in Schmalkalden, then belonging to Hessen, now in the federal state Thüringen The name Happel is an old German first name it is the short form of HARTLEF/ HARTLIEB existing already since about 1300 - so it is of different origin Parish registers don´t exist that early time, mostly beginning about 1640 Those names were taken from the muster registers for all men able to bear a lance in 1543 - 1553, just in the centre of the old HESSEN, as it is called Niederhessen, around Kassel but the name Happel exists all over Germany.The oldest parish register (1565 - 1598) of the old town in the city of Kassel has in 1572 a marriage Albert BACK and Anna HAPPEL in 1595 Hans DUNCH from Elfershausen and Elisabeth HAPPEL, from Großenenglis in 1576 dies Hen HAPPEL´s wife -------------------- The name was traced to the 13th century. Persons with the Happel name were found in many occupations, from lance bearers, church administrators & ‘middle ages’ university professors to artisians, woodsmen, etc. The Happels of Brunstruth area have their beginnings in ‘Meister’ (master) Henrich Happel (1799) of Gruesen who came from Sebbeterode in 1670 to get married. “ I am happy to send all my Happel lines or just promising ones that you want to review. My grandfather Johann Wilhelm Happel moved from Mohnhausen to St. Louis, MO in 1800s. Sincerely, Geraldine Happel Graham San Antonio, TEXAS Family History http://members.aol.com/dickandgerri/ .............................................................................. .........................