In a message dated 7/16/2004 11:42:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, aquamar@earthlink.net writes: Hi, Can someone help with the meaning of "Chyrurgi" (taken from a Catholic Baptism record 1812, in Ober Abtsteinach)? I think it means surgeon. Can anyone tell me what that would mean in 1812--is it a high level profession? Would there be any special records I could look for related to a surgeon? The individual in question: Nicolas Bergold of Abtsteinach (wife Catharine Schmitt). Thank you, Marina Cole It is in fact a surgeon, and in 1812 it could go both ways as far as status is concerned. A "Wundartzneychirurg" would usually be a military man of moderate enlisted level, not an officer, and other Chirurg varieties would depend on the position and place. It's not necessarily a physician, which is an educated (University-level) position, and accordingly has high status. Werner Saemmler-Hindrichs Attached please find your translation! We hope to have been of service. Please come and visit us at our new facilities at ALS, Inc 8375 West Main Street Marshall, Virginia 20115 540-364-9041 Sincerely, Werner Sämmler-Hindrichs Director of Operations 1-540-627-8881 cell