(This message has also been posted to the ROTH mailing list.) In 1854 my great grandfather Valentine ROTH emigrated from Mühlheim in Hesse-Darmstadt to Michigan with his parents George and Christina and his siblings Philip, Christina and Adam Joseph. I recently found the ship's record for these people, showing that they arrived in New York from London on the ship Victoria on 22 December 1854. I also found a surprise on that record - three other people, Franz, Elizabetha and Casper J. ROTH, who arrived on the same ship and are also listed as children of George and Christina. (I am not sure that is actually the relationship though, especially in Casper's case since he is listed out of order by age.) Since I know nothing about these people I would like to hear from anyone who has tracked people of these names back to Hesse-Darmstadt and thinks they might have a match to my new found relatives. The ages given in 1854 were: Franz 25, Elizabetha 23, Casper 17. Frances Roth

Frances, The best way to determine relationship is to go to the Muhlheim church records. The church records have been microfilmed, and it is an easy process to get them. The available records are: Topic Germany, Hessen, Mühlheim - Church records Titles Kirchenbuch, 1650-1876 / Katholische Kirche Mühlheim (Kr. Offenbach) Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1812-1875 / Katholische Kirche Mühlheim (Kr. Offenbach) Carol -----Original Message----- From: Frances Ann Roth [mailto:froth@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:26 PM To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: ROTH (Franz, Elizabetha, Casper) from Hesse to USA in 1854 (This message has also been posted to the ROTH mailing list.) In 1854 my great grandfather Valentine ROTH emigrated from Mühlheim in Hesse-Darmstadt to Michigan with his parents George and Christina and his siblings Philip, Christina and Adam Joseph. I recently found the ship's record for these people, showing that they arrived in New York from London on the ship Victoria on 22 December 1854. I also found a surprise on that record - three other people, Franz, Elizabetha and Casper J. ROTH, who arrived on the same ship and are also listed as children of George and Christina. (I am not sure that is actually the relationship though, especially in Casper's case since he is listed out of order by age.) Since I know nothing about these people I would like to hear from anyone who has tracked people of these names back to Hesse-Darmstadt and thinks they might have a match to my new found relatives. The ages given in 1854 were: Franz 25, Elizabetha 23, Casper 17. Frances Roth ______________________________