Thank you for your reply. I got the name of the town from baptismal records on family search. It states that Anna Maria Wink was born and christened on 06 Jan 1838 "Romanisch-Katholische, Buedesheim, Rheinhessen, Hessen". On her marriage the priest wrote that she was born "Darmstadt nota" as best I can make out - very, messy writing. So where should I look for further records? Thanks, Ginger > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:32:46 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany > > Hi all, > > for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a great tool. > > Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This may make it more difficult for you to find a town. > > For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of Baden). > > Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there > > I have no clue how to help you there. > > More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody there. > > Good luck, regards, > > Thierry > > > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> > An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr > Betreff: [HESSE] where to search > > > I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they married in Texas).Thank you very much. > > Ginger > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™: Life without walls. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme
Spelling is everything! Here's your town: Büdesheim That's a u with an umlaut. There are at least three such towns in Hesse. One in Kreis Friedberg (that'd be Darmstadt), One in Kreis Alzay, and one in Kreis Bingen. I can't tell you if one of these is in Rheinhessen or not. The FHL has some of those records on film. You can search them for your ancestors for minor fee. HTH, Brian On Wed, March 4, 2009 1:49 pm, Ginger Willmann wrote: > > Thank you for your reply. I got the name of the town from baptismal > records on family search. It states that Anna Maria Wink was born and > christened on 06 Jan 1838 "Romanisch-Katholische, Buedesheim, Rheinhessen, > Hessen". On her marriage the priest wrote that she was born "Darmstadt > nota" as best I can make out - very, messy writing. So where should I look > for further records? > > Thanks, Ginger > >> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:32:46 +0000 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany >> >> Hi all, >> >> for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a >> great tool. >> >> Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This >> may make it more difficult for you to find a town. >> >> For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist >> nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to >> Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once >> belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to >> Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly >> different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not >> even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of >> Baden). >> >> Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my >> understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily >> abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there >> >> I have no clue how to help you there. >> >> More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take >> care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that >> most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where >> people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after >> marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new >> farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by >> law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a >> farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. >> There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around >> Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow >> this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a >> Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody >> there. >> >> Good luck, regards, >> >> Thierry >> >> >> Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> >> An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr >> Betreff: [HESSE] where to search >> >> >> I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and >> where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German >> geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard >> Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I >> can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 >> census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is >> Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they >> married in Texas).Thank you very much. >> >> Ginger >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live�: Life without walls. >> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >
Hey, that may be the clue... Reinhausen may not refer to the town of Reinhausen. It also may just be a spelling or understanding issue of the american officer who registered the record. May be your ancestor said he is from Büdesheim in Rheinhessen and he understood Budescheim in Reinhausen. This explains why there is no Büdesheim or Budesheim or Budescheim close to a Reinhausen or Rheinhausen. It is likely that the town you're looking for is one of the latter two mentioned below on the left side of the river Rhein, which for a century was part of Hessen-Darmstadt and known as the province Rheinhessen. Move on digging... Regards, Thierry Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 21:06:49 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany Spelling is everything! Here's your town: Büdesheim That's a u with an umlaut. There are at least three such towns in Hesse. One in Kreis Friedberg (that'd be Darmstadt), One in Kreis Alzay, and one in Kreis Bingen. I can't tell you if one of these is in Rheinhessen or not. The FHL has some of those records on film. You can search them for your ancestors for minor fee. HTH, Brian On Wed, March 4, 2009 1:49 pm, Ginger Willmann wrote: > > Thank you for your reply. I got the name of the town from baptismal > records on family search. It states that Anna Maria Wink was born and > christened on 06 Jan 1838 "Romanisch-Katholische, Buedesheim, Rheinhessen, > Hessen". On her marriage the priest wrote that she was born "Darmstadt > nota" as best I can make out - very, messy writing. So where should I look > for further records? > > Thanks, Ginger > >> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:32:46 +0000 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany >> >> Hi all, >> >> for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a >> great tool. >> >> Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This >> may make it more difficult for you to find a town. >> >> For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist >> nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to >> Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once >> belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to >> Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly >> different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not >> even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of >> Baden). >> >> Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my >> understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily >> abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there >> >> I have no clue how to help you there. >> >> More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take >> care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that >> most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where >> people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after >> marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new >> farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by >> law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a >> farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. >> There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around >> Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow >> this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a >> Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody >> there. >> >> Good luck, regards, >> >> Thierry >> >> >> Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> >> An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr >> Betreff: [HESSE] where to search >> >> >> I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and >> where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German >> geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard >> Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I >> can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 >> census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is >> Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they >> married in Texas).Thank you very much. >> >> Ginger >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live�: Life without walls. >> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! 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