Motivated by the many discussions around Assenheim and Karben here a little hint on a new CD-ROM from Gottlieb See which seem to have been published recently. As I don't do any research in the Wetterau region, I can't provide any further details nor do I intend to purchase this CD-ROM. I just want to spot this for those, which might be interested and want to pursue this hint further. The CD-ROM is titled: "Hessische Familienbücher von Gottlieb See". Gottlieb See is a genealogist known for his profound knowledge in the south-west area of the Wetterau and additionally of the city of Friedrichsdorf incl. some of its suburbs and two suburbs of the city of Bad Homburg (which however do not belong to the county of Wetterau but rather to the county of Hochtaunus). This CD-ROM is containing files in pdf Format with the entire content of all available church books from the very beginning of the records, sometimes until WW II. Included are the towns Friedrichsdorf, Köppern, Rodheim v.d.H., Ober-Rosbach, Burgholzhausen, Dillingen, Nieder-Rosbach, Kirdorf and Gonzenheim. If you want to know more, please google for further details, as I don't have any more then this. Regards, Thierry PS: For those of you not familiar with Ortsfamilienbücher, they are not simply transcriptions of church books. They are structured books resulting from years of research, transcriptions and analysis, clearly depicting entire genealogies of these towns. Starting from these materials you can built entire genealogies within a few hours effort. Lucky is who does research in towns where such Family books are available. However, of course they are secondary sources. They cannot contain each single detail (for instance they do not always contain witnesses, reasons of death, etc.). It depends on the author what level of detail he wants to integrate. Also sometimes transcription errors or typos in dates may happen. Anyway, the value of these books still is tremendous and the quality is much higher than the records of the mormons where typos or transcription errors are occuring quite regularly. Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 05:52:38 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. Brian On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: > Hello, > > What town does this family come from? I have a Maria Barbara Bauer from > Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. > > Thanks, > > Bev W > > > ************** > Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for > $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sadly, it doesn't look like it would be helpful to me. None of the towns listed cover my small region. There was a Ortsfamilienbuch done in 1939, but the only copy I know of is in Leipzig, I think. I have this reference, which I've never been able to make heads or tails of. O. A.: Ev.-luth. Verkartung Assenheim 1654-1754. o. A.; ST StA Darmstadt QU Praetorius: KB Hessen 1939 It's from this site: http://www.v-weiss.de/ofbmeur-a5.html If a book was done for your town it's probably listed there. It's in German, naturally. Not something you'd normally find in a search unless you use google.de. Near as I can make out, it was done by the Lutheran Church in Assenheim. Anyone interested in such material should definitely check out the site. Here's the entry for Gross-Karben: Groß-Karben/064/1993/1654-1737 (?) Steinbaur, Max: Groß-Karbener Familien 1654-1737. o. O. 1993; ST HFV Darmstadt (auch Kartei im Schrank 10-7) Similar to the title given in an earlier post. Sorry, I don't know how to read German references. other than seeing the author, title and place of publication (I think). Brian On Mon, April 13, 2009 3:26 am, Thierry Dietrich wrote: > Motivated by the many discussions around Assenheim and Karben here a > little hint on a new CD-ROM from Gottlieb See which seem to have > been published recently. As I don't do any research in the Wetterau > region, I can't provide any further details nor do I intend to purchase > this CD-ROM. I just want to spot this for those, which might be interested > and want to pursue this hint further. > > The CD-ROM is titled: "Hessische Familienbücher von Gottlieb See". > Gottlieb See is a genealogist known for his profound knowledge in the > south-west area of the Wetterau and additionally of the city of > Friedrichsdorf incl. some of its suburbs and two suburbs of the city of > Bad Homburg (which however do not belong to the county of Wetterau but > rather to the county of Hochtaunus). > > This CD-ROM is containing files in pdf Format with the entire content of > all available church books from the very beginning of the records, > sometimes until WW II. > > Included are the towns Friedrichsdorf, Köppern, Rodheim v.d.H., > Ober-Rosbach, Burgholzhausen, Dillingen, Nieder-Rosbach, Kirdorf and > Gonzenheim. > > If you want to know more, please google for further details, as I don't > have any more then this. > > Regards, > > Thierry > > PS: For those of you not familiar with Ortsfamilienbücher, they are not > simply transcriptions of church books. They are structured books resulting > from years of research, transcriptions and analysis, clearly > depicting entire genealogies of these towns. Starting from these materials > you can built entire genealogies within a few hours effort. Lucky is who > does research in towns where such Family books are available. However, of > course they are secondary sources. They cannot contain each single detail > (for instance they do not always contain witnesses, reasons of death, > etc.). It depends on the author what level of detail he wants to > integrate. Also sometimes transcription errors or typos in dates may > happen. Anyway, the value of these books still is tremendous and the > quality is much higher than the records of the mormons where typos or > transcription errors are occuring quite regularly. > > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 05:52:38 Uhr > Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. > Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I > have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my > sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. > > Brian > > On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> Hello, >> >> What town does this family come from? I have a Maria Barbara Bauer from >> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bev W >> >> >> ************** >> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for >> $10 or less. >> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >
o. A. means "ohne Angabe" (i. e.: "without mentioning") and refers to the fact there is no author mentioned for the according citation. StA Darmstadt refers to the "Hessisches Staatsarchiv Darmstadt". Official abbrev. however is "HStAD". According books may be listed in HADIS. "Ev.-luth." signifies "Evangelisch-Lutherisch" and is the confession. This source therefore is only relevant for you provided your ancestors were of this confession. "QU" may signify "Quelle" = source. But I am not sure about the convention used by the author of the webpage you have got this reference from. Regards, Thierry Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 19:36:01 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Ortsfamilienbücher of Friedrichsdorf, Köppern, Ro dheim v.d.H. , Ober-Rosbach, Burgholzhausen, Dillingen, Nieder -Rosbach , Kirdorf and Gonzenheim on CD-ROM Sadly, it doesn't look like it would be helpful to me. None of the towns listed cover my small region. There was a Ortsfamilienbuch done in 1939, but the only copy I know of is in Leipzig, I think. I have this reference, which I've never been able to make heads or tails of. O. A.: Ev.-luth. Verkartung Assenheim 1654-1754. o. A.; ST StA Darmstadt QU Praetorius: KB Hessen 1939 It's from this site: http://www.v-weiss.de/ofbmeur-a5.html If a book was done for your town it's probably listed there. It's in German, naturally. Not something you'd normally find in a search unless you use google.de. Near as I can make out, it was done by the Lutheran Church in Assenheim. Anyone interested in such material should definitely check out the site. Here's the entry for Gross-Karben: Groß-Karben/064/1993/1654-1737 (?) Steinbaur, Max: Groß-Karbener Familien 1654-1737. o. O. 1993; ST HFV Darmstadt (auch Kartei im Schrank 10-7) Similar to the title given in an earlier post. Sorry, I don't know how to read German references. other than seeing the author, title and place of publication (I think). Brian On Mon, April 13, 2009 3:26 am, Thierry Dietrich wrote: > Motivated by the many discussions around Assenheim and Karben here a > little hint on a new CD-ROM from Gottlieb See which seem to have > been published recently. As I don't do any research in the Wetterau > region, I can't provide any further details nor do I intend to purchase > this CD-ROM. I just want to spot this for those, which might be interested > and want to pursue this hint further. > > The CD-ROM is titled: "Hessische Familienbücher von Gottlieb See". > Gottlieb See is a genealogist known for his profound knowledge in the > south-west area of the Wetterau and additionally of the city of > Friedrichsdorf incl. some of its suburbs and two suburbs of the city of > Bad Homburg (which however do not belong to the county of Wetterau but > rather to the county of Hochtaunus). > > This CD-ROM is containing files in pdf Format with the entire content of > all available church books from the very beginning of the records, > sometimes until WW II. > > Included are the towns Friedrichsdorf, Köppern, Rodheim v.d.H., > Ober-Rosbach, Burgholzhausen, Dillingen, Nieder-Rosbach, Kirdorf and > Gonzenheim. > > If you want to know more, please google for further details, as I don't > have any more then this. > > Regards, > > Thierry > > PS: For those of you not familiar with Ortsfamilienbücher, they are not > simply transcriptions of church books. They are structured books resulting > from years of research, transcriptions and analysis, clearly > depicting entire genealogies of these towns. Starting from these materials > you can built entire genealogies within a few hours effort. Lucky is who > does research in towns where such Family books are available. However, of > course they are secondary sources. They cannot contain each single detail > (for instance they do not always contain witnesses, reasons of death, > etc.). It depends on the author what level of detail he wants to > integrate. Also sometimes transcription errors or typos in dates may > happen. Anyway, the value of these books still is tremendous and the > quality is much higher than the records of the mormons where typos or > transcription errors are occuring quite regularly. > > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 05:52:38 Uhr > Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. > Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I > have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my > sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. > > Brian > > On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> Hello, >> >> What town does this family come from? I have a Maria Barbara Bauer from >> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bev W >> >> >> ************** >> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for >> $10 or less. >> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message