In a message dated 4/20/2009 6:40:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Cleve Nancy: I do recognize CLEVE is an area where Henry the 8th's fourths wife was from. She wasn't all that pretty and as you well know it didn't work out with this marriage eather. You could google it or some other member might know more about it..Doris. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572844x1201387506/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter420NO62)

No idea, what Cleve this 4th wife of Henry the 8th came from, but assuming you're talking of the english Henry the 8th (there are some more you know...), I am not sure it is the Cleve = Kleve in Western Germany. As Nancy is referring to Düsseldorf, my assumption would be she is looking for a Kleve / Cleve in Germany. Even though there are more towns with that name in the Netherlands, it probably is the German one, as it is located in the Regierungsbezirk Düsseldorf. Further it has been of some historic importance as it has been the central city of a duchy of the same name (Herzogtum Cleve). Thus, a mention of Cleve in a document, could also refer to another town in that duchy, rather than the city of Kleve itself. Always bear in mind today's "K"s in earlier times were interchangeable with "C"s. Today's correct spelling is Kleve. But in historical documents it probably mostly was spelled Cleve. You can easily locate the city by using Google-Map. The dutch Cleve's are spelled with a "C". Here is the german Wiki site on Kleve: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleve Regards, Thierry   Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Dienstag, den 21. April 2009, 03:41:05 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Birth certificate In a message dated 4/20/2009 6:40:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  [email protected] writes: Cleve   Nancy: I do recognize CLEVE is an area where Henry the 8th's fourths  wife was from.               She wasn't all that pretty and as you well know it didn't work out with this  marriage eather.               You could google it or some other member might know more about  it..Doris. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572844x1201387506/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter420NO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message