I believe it is this Cleves/Kleves referred to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Cleves Anna 52538 Selfkant On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Thierry Dietrich wrote: > No idea, what Cleve this 4th wife of Henry the 8th came from, but > assuming you're talking of the english Henry the 8th (there are some > more you know...), I am not sure it is the Cleve = Kleve in Western > Germany.