True enough. And it means we are related even when our names are different. Traceable through records? Probably not. I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let alone farther back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family was skipped on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never served in the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, orphaned at 7 years old. But here I am. Regards, TW Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: 04/14/2009 02:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (Müller), a cellarman (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it very hard to prove any relationship. Brian On Tue, April 14, 2009 12:16 pm, TW Scott wrote: > Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related > somehow don't we? > Wayne Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] > Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Hi all. > > Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany. > Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half > of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is > not represented. > > Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related > is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in > Indiana. ;-) > > If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use > GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last > names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing > before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. > > Regards, > > Thierry >  > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Arden <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr > Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Brian, > > I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. > > >>I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. >> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). 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Welcome to the club. My father's family never owned land, never made wills, moved every 6 months (to escape the rent man?), missed a lot of censuses, don't know about voting, didn't serve in the army. Worked in mills and tended boilers, as far as I can tell. Cannot tell where great-grandfather and family came from in Germany, though I can tell they came about 1850 (cannot find a manifest nor citizenship papers). Actually found a receipt for a grave (grandfather died at 55 when my father was 4) but there is no marker and the cemetery only found his grave when I showed them a receipt. Neither wife spoke English well (for that matter, my grandmother's first husband didn't either). Cemetery has no record of burial of grandfather's first wife, though the death certificate, which I actually have, shows where she is buried. And what religion were they? Grandfather married 2 wives in Lutheran churches, first wife and grandfather buried in Catholic cemeteries, second wife buried in secular cemetery. AAGH! Elizabeth C TW Scott wrote: > True enough. And it means we are related even when our names are different. Traceable through records? Probably not. > > I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let alone farther back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family was skipped on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never served in the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, orphaned at 7 years old. But here I am. > > Regards, > TW Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Date: 04/14/2009 02:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related > > Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? > > Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names > came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (Müller), a cellarman > (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter > (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no > castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons > (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a > 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it > very hard to prove any relationship. > > Brian > > >
Elizabeth and TW Scott - On the off-chance that someone could help you . . . since you've already put in so much info, please add a name and place! I have an almost exact story for my Eli Deao, born 1824 in NY, father born in Germany [according to one census]; Eli lived in Stark Co., Illinois, died in Iowa 1899. Can't find parents or siblings, or county of his birth or where his parents married. Anybody have an idea??! I take every opportunity to get this info out there! I already have all that's available from 1850 forward that is readily available on the Internet. Thanks - Kathleen On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Elizabeth Cunningham < [email protected]> wrote: > Welcome to the club. My father's family never owned land, never made > wills, moved every 6 months (to escape the rent man?), missed a lot of > censuses, don't know about voting, didn't serve in the army. Worked in > mills and tended boilers, as far as I can tell. Cannot tell where > great-grandfather and family came from in Germany, though I can tell > they came about 1850 (cannot find a manifest nor citizenship papers). > Actually found a receipt for a grave (grandfather died at 55 when my > father was 4) but there is no marker and the cemetery only found his > grave when I showed them a receipt. Neither wife spoke English well > (for that matter, my grandmother's first husband didn't either). > Cemetery has no record of burial of grandfather's first wife, though the > death certificate, which I actually have, shows where she is buried. > And what religion were they? Grandfather married 2 wives in Lutheran > churches, first wife and grandfather buried in Catholic cemeteries, > second wife buried in secular cemetery. AAGH! > > Elizabeth C > > TW Scott wrote: I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let > alone farther back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family > was skipped on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never > served in the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, > orphaned at 7 years old. But here I am. > > > > Regards, > > TW Scott
Be wary of civil servants telling you there are no records because the "Courthouse burned down". This is a common tack taken by local clerks through either ignorance or indifference. In these cases it may become necessary to visit the location physically and verify that there are no records. Even in many real cases (and there are a great many such cases) records survived fires (often times all or nearly all survived/ were saved/etc.). On Wed, April 15, 2009 7:26 am, TW Scott wrote: > True enough. And it means we are related even when our names are > different. Traceable through records? Probably not. > > I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let alone farther > back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family was skipped > on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never served in > the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, orphaned at 7 > years old. But here I am. > > Regards, > TW Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Date: 04/14/2009 02:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related > > Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? > > Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names > came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (MÌller), a cellarman > (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter > (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no > castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons > (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a > 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it > very hard to prove any relationship. > > Brian > > On Tue, April 14, 2009 12:16 pm, TW Scott wrote: >> Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related >> somehow don't we? >> Wayne Scott >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] >> Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Hi all. >> >> Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in >> Germany.� >> Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half >> of Germany, there still� is no single county in Germany where this >> name is >> not represented. >> >> Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related >> is about as probable as a Smith in� Florida is related with a� Smith >> in >> Indiana.� ;-) >> >> If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use >> GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of >> last >> names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing >> before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. >> >> Regards, >> >> Thierry >> � >> Dr. Thierry� P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Arden <[email protected]> >> An: [email protected] >> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr >> Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Brian, >> >> I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in >> Wisconsin. >> >> >>>I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to >>> time. >>> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >>> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >>> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small >>> world. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> What town does this family come from?� I have a Maria Barbara Bauer >>>> from >>>> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Bev W >>>> >>>> >>>> ************** >>>> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?� Make dinner for >>>> $10 or less. >>>> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Pest Control >> BUGS? 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I wouldn't be to fast knocking down the civil servants. Since I lived in Germany during World War II you might like to know that the devastation was terrible. Yes, lots of records were destroyed in Germany. As far as civil servants goes, I never had one bit of trouble receiving the requested records as long as I was able to prove that I was a direct descendant of a particular line. Kind regards, Heidi Boos-Utley E-mail: [email protected] URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heidisfamily ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related Be wary of civil servants telling you there are no records because the "Courthouse burned down". This is a common tack taken by local clerks through either ignorance or indifference. In these cases it may become necessary to visit the location physically and verify that there are no records. Even in many real cases (and there are a great many such cases) records survived fires (often times all or nearly all survived/ were saved/etc.). On Wed, April 15, 2009 7:26 am, TW Scott wrote: > True enough. And it means we are related even when our names are > different. Traceable through records? Probably not. > > I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let alone farther > back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family was skipped > on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never served in > the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, orphaned at 7 > years old. But here I am. > > Regards, > TW Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Date: 04/14/2009 02:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related > > Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? > > Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names > came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (Müller), a cellarman > (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter > (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no > castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons > (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a > 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it > very hard to prove any relationship. > > Brian > > On Tue, April 14, 2009 12:16 pm, TW Scott wrote: >> Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related >> somehow don't we? >> Wayne Scott >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] >> Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Hi all. >> >> Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in >> Germany.� >> Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half >> of Germany, there still� is no single county in Germany where this >> name is >> not represented. >> >> Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related >> is about as probable as a Smith in� Florida is related with a� Smith >> in >> Indiana.� ;-) >> >> If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use >> GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of >> last >> names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing >> before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. >> >> Regards, >> >> Thierry >> � >> Dr. Thierry� P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Arden <[email protected]> >> An: [email protected] >> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr >> Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Brian, >> >> I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in >> Wisconsin. >> >> >>>I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to >>> time. >>> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >>> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >>> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small >>> world. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> What town does this family come from?� I have a Maria Barbara Bauer >>>> from >>>> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Bev W >>>> >>>> >>>> ************** >>>> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?� Make dinner for >>>> $10 or less. >>>> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Pest Control >> BUGS? 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Sorry, I should have qualified that. I was referring to American sites. It is not unusual to come across a clerk in America who will say there are no local records, because the courthouse burned down. Often time, the person simply doesn't know what is or isn't available, and is going on anecdotal evidence at best. Somethiimes, the clerks are just so busy they will use that excuse to politely let you know they don't have the time. That is not to say there are real cases where records were lost due to a fire. Certainly in Germany we are talking about an entirely different landscape. I had assumed the post I replied to was taking of US sources. I wasn't meaning to knock civil servants, they have a tough job sometimes, and can be extremely helpful. THe best way to really find out what sources are likely to be available is to contact a local history or genealogy society. They will often be more informed about what is available. Brian On Wed, April 15, 2009 12:47 pm, Heidi Utley wrote: > I wouldn't be to fast knocking down the civil servants. Since I lived in > Germany during World War II you might like to know that the devastation > was terrible...
I have had the same thought and have been working for months on a way to try and show how I am related to all the hundreds of surnames in my file. These names are mainly from the Osnabrueck, Buechenberg, and Wipperfuerth areas of Germany, England and quite a few states here in the US. Right now I have 15 pages showing my connection to surnames that extend back to about 1600. I have already connected to someone who is related to one of my lines through the marriage of sisters. This is still under developement; I'll send a page or two to anyone that is interested in seeing my approach to the solving the problem. Perhaps we can come up with a better way of doing it. My originating surnames are Duetmann born Buller in the area south of Osnabrueck; Raab in the area surrounding Buechenberg in Hesse; Zelz from the Wipperfuerth area; and in England; in the US the names radiates from the Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, PA area. I've been calling the project "Cousins related around the world". Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "TW Scott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related > True enough. And it means we are related even when our names are > different. Traceable through records? Probably not. > > I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let alone farther > back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family was skipped > on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never served in > the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, orphaned at 7 > years old. But here I am. > > Regards, > TW Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Date: 04/14/2009 02:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related > > Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? > > Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names > came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (Müller), a cellarman > (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter > (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no > castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons > (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a > 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it > very hard to prove any relationship. > > Brian > > On Tue, April 14, 2009 12:16 pm, TW Scott wrote: >> Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related >> somehow don't we? >> Wayne Scott >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] >> Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Hi all. >> >> Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany. >> Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half >> of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name >> is >> not represented. >> >> Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related >> is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in >> Indiana. ;-) >> >> If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use >> GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last >> names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing >> before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. >> >> Regards, >> >> Thierry >>  >> Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Arden <[email protected]> >> An: [email protected] >> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr >> Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Brian, >> >> I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. >> >> >>>I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. >>> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >>> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >>> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> What town does this family come from? I have a Maria Barbara Bauer >>>> from >>>> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Bev W >>>> >>>> >>>> ************** >>>> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for >>>> $10 or less. >>>> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Pest Control >> BUGS? 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