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    1. Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp
    2. Thierry Dietrich

    3. For how long have they stayed in Abenheim? How many generations? When did they emigrate to the U.S.? There is far to little information to really give you any meaningful advice. Regards, Thierry   Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Freitag, den 10. April 2009, 18:08:48 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp I understand.? Thank you. I wonder if anyone has any direction for me in my Rapp search.? I've researched then from the US back to Abenheim with the help of an old family letter that took me to?the church records in Abenheim, but?there is no mention in those records where they?were before then 1796.? Was there a pattern of migration at this time?? Should I look in neighboring towns?? Is there?another resource for?this time period?? Any direction would help.? Thanks again. Twila -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Dietrich <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:56 am Subject: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp Possible. You need to confirm this for your specific case in searching backwards for common ancestors. Regards, Thierry ? Dr. Thierry?P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Freitag, den 10. April 2009, 16:36:47 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp I have a question...Is there any chance that Rupp and Rapp could have ever been the same?? I have Rapps from Abenheim in Hessen Darmstadt 1796, and would love to know where they migrated to there from. Twila -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 9:57 am Subject: [HESSE] A question on surnames Should I consider Rupp as a separate surname from Ruppel? I have at least one confirmed case in this town where Rupel was used in naming a Rupp, but that could be an isolated incident. Thanks, Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/10/2009 12:18:09
    1. Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp

    3. My 2nd great grandfather, Johan Rapp (1819 Abenheim), immigrated?to the US in 1851.??In Germany?he was a tailor, but a farmer upon settling in?the US. His father is Valentine Rapp (1781 Abenheim) and mother Catherine Trunk (1776 Abenheim).??Valentine's father is Philip Rapp and his mother is?Eva.? Now?I suppose they could have been born?there too, but I could find no earlier records to search.??I guess that's two generations I'm aware of in Abenheim.? Are there any earlier records available for this area that I may search.? I guess that would be?Dalberg Family records? Sure hopes this?helps you help me.? Thanks again for your kind response. Twila -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Dietrich <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:18 pm Subject: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp For how long have they stayed in Abenheim? How many generations? When did they emigrate to the U.S.? There is far to little information to really give you any meaningful advice. Regards, Thierry ? Dr. Thierry?P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Freitag, den 10. April 2009, 18:08:48 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp I understand.? Thank you. I wonder if anyone has any direction for me in my Rapp search.? I've researched then from the US back to Abenheim with the help of an old family letter that took me to?the church records in Abenheim, but?there is no mention in those records where they?were before then 1796.? Was there a pattern of migration at this time?? Should I look in neighboring towns?? Is there?another resource for?this time period?? Any direction would help.? Thanks again. Twila -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Dietrich <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:56 am Subject: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp Possible. You need to confirm this for your specific case in searching backwards for common ancestors. Regards, Thierry ? Dr. Thierry?P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Freitag, den 10. April 2009, 16:36:47 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp I have a question...Is there any chance that Rupp and Rapp could have ever been the same?? I have Rapps from Abenheim in Hessen Darmstadt 1796, and would love to know where they migrated to there from. Twila -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 9:57 am Subject: [HESSE] A question on surnames Should I consider Rupp as a separate surname from Ruppel? I have at least one confirmed case in this town where Rupel was used in naming a Rupp, but that could be an isolated incident. Thanks, Brian ------------------------------- To u nsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ? ? ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/10/2009 07:21:13
    1. Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp
    2. Thierry Dietrich

    3. I don't know whether there are older records nor where they may be kept. I don't do any research in that area. May be others in this list may help you there. Note Johann Rapp may have been tailor, but he very likely also was a farmer in Abenheim. Often farmers had a kind of second job to feed their families. As nearly everybody was a farmer, even if they mainly lived from farming, this was no differentiator. This is why a side-job often was mentioned as job as this was the differentiator. Only in cities tailors could live from tailoring alone. On the countryside this was rather an exception. I am telling you this as this may help you understand switching to farmer only in the U.S. may not have been as difficult for Johann as you may have imagined. Regards, Thierry   Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Samstag, den 11. April 2009, 07:21:13 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp My 2nd great grandfather, Johan Rapp (1819 Abenheim), immigrated?to the US in 1851.??In Germany?he was a tailor, but a farmer upon settling in?the US. His father is Valentine Rapp (1781 Abenheim) and mother Catherine Trunk (1776 Abenheim).??Valentine's father is Philip Rapp and his mother is?Eva.? Now?I suppose they could have been born?there too, but I could find no earlier records to search.??I guess that's two generations I'm aware of in Abenheim.? Are there any earlier records available for this area that I may search.? I guess that would be?Dalberg Family records? Sure hopes this?helps you help me.? Thanks again for your kind response. Twila -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Dietrich <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 2:18 pm Subject: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp For how long have they stayed in Abenheim? How many generations? When did they emigrate to the U.S.? There is far to little information to really give you any meaningful advice. Regards, Thierry ? Dr. Thierry?P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Freitag, den 10. April 2009, 18:08:48 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp I understand.? Thank you. I wonder if anyone has any direction for me in my Rapp search.? I've researched then from the US back to Abenheim with the help of an old family letter that took me to?the church records in Abenheim, but?there is no mention in those records where they?were before then 1796.? Was there a pattern of migration at this time?? Should I look in neighboring towns?? Is there?another resource for?this time period?? Any direction would help.? Thanks again. Twila -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Dietrich <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:56 am Subject: Re: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp Possible. You need to confirm this for your specific case in searching backwards for common ancestors. Regards, Thierry ? Dr. Thierry?P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Freitag, den 10. April 2009, 16:36:47 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] Rupp - Rapp I have a question...Is there any chance that Rupp and Rapp could have ever been the same?? I have Rapps from Abenheim in Hessen Darmstadt 1796, and would love to know where they migrated to there from. Twila -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 9:57 am Subject: [HESSE] A question on surnames Should I consider Rupp as a separate surname from Ruppel? I have at least one confirmed case in this town where Rupel was used in naming a Rupp, but that could be an isolated incident. Thanks, Brian ------------------------------- To u nsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ? ? ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2009 04:13:26