With a surname of Urspruch or Kuhnhenn do you really need a DNA test? I mean really, what's the probability of anyone else on the planet having that surname who isn't related in some way? Unless you're looking to exclude adoptees. Brian On Thu, May 7, 2009 7:10 pm, [email protected] wrote: > Greetings, Looking for DNA participants for the following surnames: > KUHNHENN, ZACHER (ZOCHER) MÃŒnden and Goddelsheim, Waldeck > VESPER and URSPRUCH > > Ron HABEL (HEBEL) (Rheinland-Pfalz) > Vista, CA, USA > > > **************Big savings on Dellâ��s most popular laptops. Now starting > at > $449! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222382499x1201454962/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214663472%3B36502367%3Bg) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

On May 7, 2009, at 6:42 PM, [email protected] wrote: > With a surname of Urspruch or Kuhnhenn do you really need a DNA > test? I > mean really, what's the probability of anyone else on the planet > having > that surname who isn't related in some way? Unless you're looking to > exclude adoptees. If an uncommon surname is derived from a place name, for instance, you could have unrelated descendants of that region who share it. Not from Hesse but it's an illustrative example: my husband's surname was Dumesh in the Russian Empire (now Dumes). He discovered a Dumesh individual whose great-grandfather lived next door to his own great- grandfather in the same tiny village, shared the same surname, both enumerated in the 1897 census. He and the supposed cousin took a DNA test via FTDNA. The results showed that they were from completely different haplogroups, or genetic groups, and their lines couldn't have been related for at least 10,000 years, long before the existence of paperwork or surnames. A little closer to home, my Jatho ancestors lived in both Hesse and Hannover. Jatho is a rare surname. There are at least two families with this surname in the same small farming town who can't be connected by paperwork going back nearly 400 years. They appear to be separate, though if we could find a descendant from the other family it might be revealing to see whether our DNA connects us further back in time. DNA can still be a useful tool for determining connectivity, even with rare surnames. Regards, Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes http://sakionline.net/familypage

Hi Brian, To answer your question see the following video: <http://www.rootstelevision.com/players/player_dna3.php?bctid=1370845208&bclid=1415670061> In short, the answer is yes, it is important. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] DNA With a surname of Urspruch or Kuhnhenn do you really need a DNA test? I mean really, what's the probability of anyone else on the planet having that surname who isn't related in some way? Unless you're looking to exclude adoptees. Brian