Alsace and Lorraine are *not* the same place. The German names are Elsaß and Lothringen. However, these two regions frequently happened to be conquered and annexed by either Germany or France as a single piece of war loot. Just see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_%28region%29 Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marleen Van Horne" <msvnhrn@jps.net> To: <hesse@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] (no subject) > This is my understanding of the situation: > > The Alsace/Lorraine region is/was a state that under different political > circumstances was in either Germany or France. It is currently a part > of France. > > Alzey, however, has always been in the German state of Hesse-Darmstadt. > The confusion, as I see it is in the fact that on various occasions, > as a result of war, that part of Hesse-Darmstadt on the west side of the > Rhein River has been occupied by France, i.e., the Napoleonic Wars, WWI > and WWII. In each instance the territory was eventually returned to the > German state. > > Alsace and Lorraine are the same place, called Alsace by the Germans and > Lorraine by the French. > > Hessen is north and east of Alsace/Lorraine, and is well within the > borders of present day Germany. This state does not share a border with > France, and was only under French control as an occupied territory. > > I am sure if I have gotten this wrong, someone more knowledgeable will > correct me. > > Marleen Van Horne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
They are neighbor states, I do believe. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Becker <carl@becker-wiesbaden.de> To: hesse@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HESSE] (no subject) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:45:13 +0100 Alsace and Lorraine are *not* the same place. The German names are Elsaß and Lothringen. However, these two regions frequently happened to be conquered and annexed by either Germany or France as a single piece of war loot. Just see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_%28region%29 Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marleen Van Horne" <msvnhrn@jps.net> To: <hesse@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] (no subject) > This is my understanding of the situation: > > The Alsace/Lorraine region is/was a state that under different political > circumstances was in either Germany or France. It is currently a part > of France. > > Alzey, however, has always been in the German state of Hesse-Darmstadt. > The confusion, as I see it is in the fact that on various occasions, > as a result of war, that part of Hesse-Darmstadt on the west side of the > Rhein River has been occupied by France, i.e., the Napoleonic Wars, WWI > and WWII. In each instance the territory was eventually returned to the > German state. > > Alsace and Lorraine are the same place, called Alsace by the Germans and > Lorraine by the French. > > Hessen is north and east of Alsace/Lorraine, and is well within the > borders of present day Germany. This state does not share a border with > France, and was only under French control as an occupied territory. > > I am sure if I have gotten this wrong, someone more knowledgeable will > correct me. > > Marleen Van Horne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message