There might be passenger lists at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. Pat McCoy, M.S. Addiction Psychology Slow Down and Enjoy Your Garden! ================================================= ________________________________ From: Kim Allison Ross <slimkim@gci.net> To: hesse@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 4:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] German-Americans in the Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclope... What about immigration/travel/port records? I know this was before Ellis Island. Where would he of left from anyway. Baltimore? New York? How does one find those records? My great grandfather came from Arnshain, Hesse-Darmstadt. I think anything our Hesse immigrants did here after immigration qualifies for discussion on this list. He returned to Germany in 1862, and for some reason made his way to Switzerland and married in 1865. I wish figuring out how that came to be were as simple as tracking censuses for the bride's family, whose given names we don't know. Because he was there for about 3 years, does anyone think there is any sort of document I might find him on in that little time? Susan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try using Google and searching for "Ship Lists". One of the better ones is: www.immigrantships.net This site can be searched by name, date, ship name. The Google search will turn up quite a few other sites. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD From: Kim Allison Ross <slimkim@gci.net> To: hesse@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 4:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] German-Americans in the Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclope... What about immigration/travel/port records? I know this was before Ellis Island. Where would he of left from anyway. Baltimore? New York? How does one find those records? My great grandfather came from Arnshain, Hesse-Darmstadt. I think anything our Hesse immigrants did here after immigration qualifies for discussion on this list. He returned to Germany in 1862, and for some reason made his way to Switzerland and married in 1865. I wish figuring out how that came to be were as simple as tracking censuses for the bride's family, whose given names we don't know. Because he was there for about 3 years, does anyone think there is any sort of document I might find him on in that little time? Susan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Bobbi, Kim, and Pat, for your suggestions. I know just about all I need on my great grandfather from 1849-1862, then 1865-his death, all here in the U.S. What I'm wondering is, other than a marriage record in 1865 Zug, Switzerland (which I don't have), are there any suggestions on tracing his movements in Germany and Switzerland during that 3 year stay? He became a US citizen through his father's naturalization, and I'm pretty certain he never attempted to become a citizen elsewhere. It's tough figuring out what he was doing those three years. Susan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Pat McCoy <p.a.mccoy@att.net> wrote: > There might be passenger lists at the National > Archives in Washington, D.C. > > Pat McCoy, M.S. > > Addiction Psychology > > Slow Down and Enjoy Your Garden! > ================================================= > > > ________________________________ > From: Kim Allison Ross <slimkim@gci.net> > To: hesse@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 4:04:19 PM > Subject: Re: [HESSE] German-Americans in the Civil War - Wikipedia, the free > encyclope... > > What about immigration/travel/port records? I know this was before > Ellis Island. Where would he of left from anyway. Baltimore? New > York? How does one find those records? > > > > > My great grandfather came from Arnshain, Hesse-Darmstadt. I think > anything our Hesse immigrants did here after immigration qualifies for > discussion on this list. He returned to Germany in 1862, and for some > reason made his way to Switzerland and married in 1865. I wish figuring > out how that came to be were as simple as tracking censuses for the > bride's family, whose given names we don't know. > Because he was there for about 3 years, does anyone think there is any > sort of document I might find him on in that little time? > > Susan > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HESSE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Also, the passenger list could indicate where he was headed from America to Europe. Pat McCoy, M.S. Addiction Psychology Slow Down and Enjoy Your Garden! =============================================== ________________________________ From: Susan Curelopp <noshowclc@aol.com> To: "hesse@rootsweb.com" <hesse@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 1:57:33 AM Subject: Re: [HESSE] German-Americans in the Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclope... Thank you Bobbi, Kim, and Pat, for your suggestions. I know just about all I need on my great grandfather from 1849-1862, then 1865-his death, all here in the U.S. What I'm wondering is, other than a marriage record in 1865 Zug, Switzerland (which I don't have), are there any suggestions on tracing his movements in Germany and Switzerland during that 3 year stay? He became a US citizen through his father's naturalization, and I'm pretty certain he never attempted to become a citizen elsewhere. It's tough figuring out what he was doing those three years. Susan Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Pat McCoy <p.a.mccoy@att.net> wrote: > There might be passenger lists at the National > Archives in Washington, D.C. > > Pat McCoy, M.S. > > Addiction Psychology > > Slow Down and Enjoy Your Garden! > ================================================= > > > ________________________________ > From: Kim Allison Ross <slimkim@gci.net> > To: hesse@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 4:04:19 PM > Subject: Re: [HESSE] German-Americans in the Civil War - Wikipedia, the free > encyclope... > > What about immigration/travel/port records? I know this was before > Ellis Island. Where would he of left from anyway. Baltimore? New > York? How does one find those records? > > > > > My great grandfather came from Arnshain, Hesse-Darmstadt. I think > anything our Hesse immigrants did here after immigration qualifies for > discussion on this list. He returned to Germany in 1862, and for some > reason made his way to Switzerland and married in 1865. I wish figuring > out how that came to be were as simple as tracking censuses for the > bride's family, whose given names we don't know. > Because he was there for about 3 years, does anyone think there is any > sort of document I might find him on in that little time? > > Susan > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >HESSE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message