Bev, According to ShtetlSeeker : 1) GroßKarben is 10 miles NNE of Frankfurt 2) Kirchheimbolanden is 42 miles SW of Frankfurt (about 50 miles SW of GroßKarben) and in the former Bavarian Pfalz, now Rhein-Pfalz, and not in Bavaria as we know it. 3) Dauernheim (no place called Dauerheim) is 30 miles NE of Frankfurt or about 20 miles from GroßKarben and about 70 miles from Kirchheimbolanden. BTW, the family religion is another important piece of information. As Marleen stated the records for Kirchheimbolanden (as well as Groß Karben and Dauernheim) can be rented at your local LDS Family History Center ============ Kirchenbuch, 1686-1961 Katholische Kirche Kirchheimbolanden (BA. Kirchheimbolanden) (Main Author) Parish registers of baptisms, marriages and deaths for Kirchheimbolanden, Bayern, Germany. Kirchenbuch, 1689-1925 Evangelische Kirche Kirchheimbolanden (BA. Kirchheimbolanden) (Main Author) Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages, deaths, indexes, communicants and other records of the Lutheran and Reformed parishes in Kirchheimbolanden, Bayern, Germany. Zivilstandsregister, 1799-1821 Kirchheimbolanden (Bayern). Standesamt (Main Author) Mikrofilme aufgenommen von Manuskripten im Staatsarchiv Speyer. Marriage banns and marriage supplements (birth and death documentations relating to marriages 1799-1821). Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1808-1875 Evangelische Kirche Groß Karben (Kr. Friedberg) (Main Author) Parish register transcripts of baptisms, marriages and burials for Groß Karben, Hessen, Germany. Church book, 1554-1875 Evangelical Church Dauernheim (Kr Büdingen) (Main Author) Parish register births, marriages, deaths and confirmations of Dauernheim (Kr Büdingen), Hesse, includes Blofeld, the courts breakdown field and high Dauernheim, Hessen. =========== Also note there is a published familienbuch for Groß Karben. It has not been microfilmed, so it cannot be rented at your local FHC. However someone may have a copy, or you can purchase a copy. =========== Gross-Karbener Familien, 1654-99 Max Steinbaur Genealogical data on families of Groß Karben and Klein Karben, Hesse, Germany. The data was extracted from Church records, grouped in families and arranged alphabetically by surname. =========== At 01:06 PM 3/14/2011, you wrote: >From: user917826@aol.com >Subject: [HESSE] Jumping to conclusions >To: hesse@rootsweb.com > >Hi everyone, > >I often jump to conclusions but I would like >someone to weigh in on this set of events. My 3 >ggrandfather, Johann George Heck, b. 13 Sept. >1811 in Gross-Karben, left his home town and >married a woman from Kircheimbolanden, Bayern in >1840. Johann Georg was the son of Johann >Heinrich Heck also of Karben. Following the >trail back, our earliest ancestor, Hermann >Heck, b. circa 1703 was not from Karben but came >there by 1750, working as a shepherd. > >Going through my notebooks for possible Heck >connections, I revisited one Heinrich Heck b. >1657 and d. 1718, in Dauerheim, >Oberhessen. Mapquesting the town, I have found >that it appears to be about 7 minutes from >Kirscheimbolanden and about an hour from Gross-Karben. > >Would it be likely that there might be a family >connection here? My 3 great grandfather was a >"master tailor" from Karben. He raised his >children in Kirscheimbolanden and left for the >US circa 1850 when he was widowed. > >Thanks, > >Bev W ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d7e8bd4adf17111313st05vuc