Hello Ken, This is a little off topic. However, I worked with a Jim Steeber in Denver many years ago. Just wondering if you are related. He is a swell guy. Edna > Hello Marita, I have a Ludwig Ulrich in Wolfersheim, > Germany. He was born in 01.10.1846 and died in > 21.04.1896. My gggrand mother was an Ulrich also from > Wolfersheim. She married Anton Stuber, immigrated to the > US and settled in Newark, New Jersey. I know this is a > shot in the dark but who knows? With Regards, Ken----- > Original Message ----- From: "Marita Ulrich" > <mulrich@coretek.org> To: <hesse@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:27 AM > Subject: Re: [HESSE] Ludwig Ulrich > > > > Hi Debra and Helen, > > > > Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. I'll send off > > for death records for children born in Hesse-Darmstadt > > but died in the U.S.A., mainly in New Jersey. I'll > > also try to find the death record for Ludwig's wife, > Magdelena Ulrich. Ludwig, according to my bro-in-law, > > does not have a town listed on his death certificate. > > Then there are marriage records to check, also. > > > > I'm just finding out that Hesse-Darmstadt could mean any > > one of many towns in the area. So the hunt for the town > > is a little more difficult than I thought. But perhaps > > the one of the certificate's will come through for me. > > > > I've also done searches on https://www.familysearch.org/ > > for Ludwig Ulrich, but no exact match there. I've seen > > some new German records, and some on Hesse-Darmstadt > > City Records, but they are in old Gothic German script. > I had a very brief peek today, but it's a long shot. > > Gothic German is like reading Chinese to me! > > > > The idea of a hired local researcher sounds better with > > each disappointment. > > > > Thanks, too. for the info on Newark, N.J. having a > > German newspaper at the time. That and the Woodland > > Cemetery burial for many Germans has me ready to go > forward. > > > Thanks to you and all that have spurred me on! Great > > help! I should never have waited so long to sign up > for Hesse@rootsweb! > > > Cheers to you, > > > > Marita Ulrich > > > > > > > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:27 PM, D.L. MacLaughlan-Dumes > wrote: > > >> > >> On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Marita Ulrich wrote: > >> > >>> As a new subscriber, I am looking for information on > Ludwig Ulrich's >>> family from Hesse-Darmstadt. I would > like to find verifying information >>> on his birth, > birthplace, marriage, etc. Any suggestions to help in my > >>> search will be most helpful. I'm planning to stop in > Darmstadt in Sep >>> 2011 and want to tour Ludwig's > town/village, hopefully get copies of >>> certificates, > and perhaps find a relative or two? Here's what I have: > >>> >>> Ludwig Ulrich, born about 1817 in Darmstadt, > married Magdelena ? perhaps >>> around 1844, she, too was > born in Darmstadt, about 1819. They had four >>> > children also born in Darmstadt: Peter, Nov 1844, Jacob, > c. 1845, Henry >>> Charles, 1846 and Ludwig, 1849. They > immigrated to the USA about 1850 >>> where Ludwig and > Magdelena had six more children. They lived in Newark, > >>> New Jersey and according to the US census, Ludwig was > a stone cutter. >>> > >>> Any guidance would be most appreciated. > >> > >> You may want to try some New Jersey records research > first, assuming that >> Ludwig Ulrich resided there > during the whole of his time in the U.S. A >> death > record, if you can locate it, may identify his actual city > of >> birth. Then again, depending on the knowledge of > the informant, it may >> just say Hesse-Darmstadt or even > Germany. But it's worth a try. You might >> also look for > a death record for any of his children who were born in > >> Hesse-Darmstadt but who died here. The birthplace might > be on that >> record, and that might lead you to where > Ludwig lived in Hesse-Darmstadt. >> > >> Do you have his passenger manifest from his emigration > year, if you know >> it? Occasionally these include a > town of origin, which may simply be the >> last place of > residence, not birth. But these records can sometimes >> > provide helpful clues. >> > >> The 1860 U.S. federal census recorded the region or > foreign state of his >> birth, not the town. Ludwig may > have been born in the town of Darmstadt >> but it's more > likely that this stands for Hesse-Darmstadt, the region. > >> There were hundreds of towns and villages, one of which > was Ludwig's home >> town. Before you can visit the town > you'll need to identify where he was >> born. > >> > >> Birth/baptism records in Hesse-Darmstadt are usually > found in church >> books, same for marriage records. But > you'd need to know the parish in >> order to check > whether these records have been microfilmed and are >> > available for rental at a local library. Alternatively, > once you know the >> town you could hire a local > researcher to do look-ups for you, which is >> more > expensive than doing the research yourself...but sometimes > archival >> material is open only to local researchers. > >> > >> I did a quick search at https://www.familysearch.org/ > to see whether >> Ludwig's information had been indexed > but didn't have any luck with an >> exact match. You > might want to do some investigation there to see what >> > you can find. >> > >> Good luck with your search. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes > >> Researching: Jatho, Schuchmann, Dressel, etc. in > Hesse-Cassel and >> Hesse-Darmstadt > >> http://sakionline.net/familypage > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

Sorry to say he's not a branch on our family tree but, he could be a twig. Best regards, Ken from Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: <junipert@mlecmn.net> To: <hesse@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Ludwig Ulrich > Hello Ken, > > This is a little off topic. However, I worked with a Jim > Steeber in Denver many years ago. Just wondering if you are > related. He is a swell guy. > > Edna > > >> Hello Marita, I have a Ludwig Ulrich in Wolfersheim, >> Germany. He was born in 01.10.1846 and died in >> 21.04.1896. My gggrand mother was an Ulrich also from >> Wolfersheim. She married Anton Stuber, immigrated to the >> US and settled in Newark, New Jersey. I know this is a >> shot in the dark but who knows? With Regards, Ken----- >> Original Message ----- From: "Marita Ulrich" >> <mulrich@coretek.org> To: <hesse@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [HESSE] Ludwig Ulrich >> >> >> > Hi Debra and Helen, >> > >> > Your suggestions are greatly appreciated. I'll send off >> > for death records for children born in Hesse-Darmstadt >> > but died in the U.S.A., mainly in New Jersey. I'll >> > also try to find the death record for Ludwig's wife, >> Magdelena Ulrich. Ludwig, according to my bro-in-law, >> > does not have a town listed on his death certificate. >> > Then there are marriage records to check, also. >> > >> > I'm just finding out that Hesse-Darmstadt could mean any >> > one of many towns in the area. So the hunt for the town >> > is a little more difficult than I thought. But perhaps >> > the one of the certificate's will come through for me. >> > >> > I've also done searches on https://www.familysearch.org/ >> > for Ludwig Ulrich, but no exact match there. I've seen >> > some new German records, and some on Hesse-Darmstadt >> > City Records, but they are in old Gothic German script. >> I had a very brief peek today, but it's a long shot. >> > Gothic German is like reading Chinese to me! >> > >> > The idea of a hired local researcher sounds better with >> > each disappointment. >> > >> > Thanks, too. for the info on Newark, N.J. having a >> > German newspaper at the time. That and the Woodland >> > Cemetery burial for many Germans has me ready to go >> forward. > >> > Thanks to you and all that have spurred me on! Great >> > help! I should never have waited so long to sign up >> for Hesse@rootsweb! > >> > Cheers to you, >> > >> > Marita Ulrich >> > >> > >> > >> > On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:27 PM, D.L. MacLaughlan-Dumes >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Jun 1, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Marita Ulrich wrote: >> >> >> >>> As a new subscriber, I am looking for information on >> Ludwig Ulrich's >>> family from Hesse-Darmstadt. I would >> like to find verifying information >>> on his birth, >> birthplace, marriage, etc. Any suggestions to help in my >> >>> search will be most helpful. I'm planning to stop in >> Darmstadt in Sep >>> 2011 and want to tour Ludwig's >> town/village, hopefully get copies of >>> certificates, >> and perhaps find a relative or two? Here's what I have: >> >>> >>> Ludwig Ulrich, born about 1817 in Darmstadt, >> married Magdelena ? perhaps >>> around 1844, she, too was >> born in Darmstadt, about 1819. They had four >>> >> children also born in Darmstadt: Peter, Nov 1844, Jacob, >> c. 1845, Henry >>> Charles, 1846 and Ludwig, 1849. They >> immigrated to the USA about 1850 >>> where Ludwig and >> Magdelena had six more children. They lived in Newark, >> >>> New Jersey and according to the US census, Ludwig was >> a stone cutter. >>> >> >>> Any guidance would be most appreciated. >> >> >> >> You may want to try some New Jersey records research >> first, assuming that >> Ludwig Ulrich resided there >> during the whole of his time in the U.S. A >> death >> record, if you can locate it, may identify his actual city >> of >> birth. Then again, depending on the knowledge of >> the informant, it may >> just say Hesse-Darmstadt or even >> Germany. But it's worth a try. You might >> also look for >> a death record for any of his children who were born in >> >> Hesse-Darmstadt but who died here. The birthplace might >> be on that >> record, and that might lead you to where >> Ludwig lived in Hesse-Darmstadt. >> >> >> Do you have his passenger manifest from his emigration >> year, if you know >> it? Occasionally these include a >> town of origin, which may simply be the >> last place of >> residence, not birth. But these records can sometimes >> >> provide helpful clues. >> >> >> The 1860 U.S. federal census recorded the region or >> foreign state of his >> birth, not the town. Ludwig may >> have been born in the town of Darmstadt >> but it's more >> likely that this stands for Hesse-Darmstadt, the region. >> >> There were hundreds of towns and villages, one of which >> was Ludwig's home >> town. Before you can visit the town >> you'll need to identify where he was >> born. >> >> >> >> Birth/baptism records in Hesse-Darmstadt are usually >> found in church >> books, same for marriage records. But >> you'd need to know the parish in >> order to check >> whether these records have been microfilmed and are >> >> available for rental at a local library. Alternatively, >> once you know the >> town you could hire a local >> researcher to do look-ups for you, which is >> more >> expensive than doing the research yourself...but sometimes >> archival >> material is open only to local researchers. >> >> >> >> I did a quick search at https://www.familysearch.org/ >> to see whether >> Ludwig's information had been indexed >> but didn't have any luck with an >> exact match. You >> might want to do some investigation there to see what >> >> you can find. >> >> >> Good luck with your search. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes >> >> Researching: Jatho, Schuchmann, Dressel, etc. in >> Hesse-Cassel and >> Hesse-Darmstadt >> >> http://sakionline.net/familypage >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the >> message > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message