Marita - if your research turns up an affiliation with the German church on Mulberry St. in Newark, I can tell you that the church records are at the Lutheran Theological Seminary, Krauth Library-Lutheran Archives Center, in Philadelphia, PA. They are in the old German script and the records I got were loaded with information. They will let you go through the books and they will copy any pages you want for minimal copy fee. I have ancestors that attended that church in the same time period. The church has had several names - here is a history: http://www.oldnewark.com/churches/denoms/lutheran/germanevanlut.htm Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marita Ulrich" <mulrich@coretek.org> To: <hesse@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Ludwig Ulrich > Hi Brian, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I dug out a booklet I've had on the shelf > for years, Witter's "Deutsch-Englische SCHREIB - und LESE - FIBEL". So I > have started on some familiarity of that. I have an old German-English > dictionary, too, but perhaps I need to invest in a better one. This is > going to be a full on attack of the Ludwig Ulrich family search! > > Thanks, too, for the links. Hopefully, with perseverance I'll crack this > Ludwig Ulrich family. > > Great information! > > Marita Ulrich > Jacksonville, Oregon > > On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:49 AM, brian@amason.net wrote: > >> Another avenue to search is to try and find the church he belonged to. >> If he belonged to a German church and he had any children born or married >> in the church, it will probably give his town of birth. It will be in >> German. You should google for old German script which gives information >> on >> how to read it. There are some excellent books to teach that skill also. >> It's an artform learning to read old German documents, but if you like >> learning new things it can be a rewarding adventure. There are a few of >> us >> here who aren't too bad at reading it, so you might even ask for help >> once >> in a while. ;') >> >> If you're serious about doing your own research, pick up a good >> German-English dictionary. It will help in figuring out some words. But >> once you make the leap overseas, expect to have to deal with Latin too. >> >> BTW, printed German documents will be in Fractur, and handwritten ones >> will be in handschrift (aka Old German Script, aka Sutterlin). Sutterlin >> is a bit misleading, as it was a writing style promoted near the end of >> the handwriting period, in an attempt to standardize handwriting. But the >> Sutterlin script is fairly representative of what you'll see. Along with >> a >> great many variations in some letters for some hands. Any place you see >> Old German Script alphabets it's likely to be Sutterlin. But it's not >> properly called Gothic writing, which is something different entirely, >> but >> I've seen people call it that. >> >> Here's a pair of links I like: >> lower case >> http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Lese/Kanzlei1.htm >> upper case >> http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Lese/Kanzlei2.htm >> >> I still use them for problem writers, and I have a *few* of them in my >> families' towns. >> >> Happy hunting, >> Brian >> >> On Thu, June 2, 2011 2:27 am, Marita Ulrich wrote: >>> ... >>> I've seen some new German records, and >>> some on Hesse-Darmstadt City Records, but they are in old Gothic German >>> script. I had a very brief peek today, but it's a long shot. Gothic >>> German is like reading Chinese to me! >>> >>> The idea of a hired local researcher sounds better with each >>> disappointment. >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message