Hello everyone, I am new to this list and am here for some assistance. I have been working on this problem for weeks. My G-grandmother was Amelia Knapp who came to America with her parents about 1855 and I have an 1880 New York City marriage record that very clearly states her place of birth as Kirchhain b/Erfurt. Not being familiar with this town, I went looking for it in my Legacy Geo Database and discovered two - one in Hessen and one in Brandenburg. The one in Brandenburg is actually listed as Doberlug-Kirchhain on Google Maps. My problem is that Kirchhain isn't exactly close to Erfurt. If someone was using Erfurt to distinguish the location, wouldn't they have used Frankfurt instead? It's a major city closer to the Hessen Kirchhain than Erfurt is. So I looked at Erfurt on the map and discovered that there is a Kirchheim VERY close to Erfurt - about 5km south of the city limits. Now I need to decide whether the record does indeed mean Kirchhain, or made an error and should have written Kirchheim. I have tried in vain to locate this family in another record that would give me the answer. FamilySearch doesn't have anything at all on the family unit. (Parents are Jacob Knapp and Henrietta Kraiser) As I'm new to German research, I would welcome any ideas for finding them or any opinions as to whether the record means Kirchhain or Kirchheim. Thanks in advance, Helen

I don't know if this will help you, but here goes. Searching on the German Wikipedia site, I get multiple hits for Kirchheim bei Erfurt. No actual articles by that name. Not big and famous enough, most likely. I get zero hits for Kirchhain bei Erfurt. Just saying, in my opinion, the place to look first is Kirchheim bei Erfurt. By the way, using the native language wikipedias is really great in helping to find things, or even the native language Googles. You'd be amazed at how different the result sets are. Brian On Fri, January 28, 2011 10:14 am, Helen Maliszewski wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am new to this list and am here for some assistance. I have been working > on this problem for weeks. > > My G-grandmother was Amelia Knapp who came to America with her parents > about 1855 and I have an 1880 New York City marriage record that very > clearly states her place of birth as Kirchhain b/Erfurt. > > Not being familiar with this town, I went looking for it in my Legacy Geo > Database and discovered two - one in Hessen and one in Brandenburg. The > one in Brandenburg is actually listed as Doberlug-Kirchhain on Google > Maps. > > My problem is that Kirchhain isn't exactly close to Erfurt. If someone was > using Erfurt to distinguish the location, wouldn't they have used > Frankfurt instead? It's a major city closer to the Hessen Kirchhain than > Erfurt is. > > So I looked at Erfurt on the map and discovered that there is a Kirchheim > VERY close to Erfurt - about 5km south of the city limits. > > Now I need to decide whether the record does indeed mean Kirchhain, or > made an error and should have written Kirchheim. > > I have tried in vain to locate this family in another record that would > give me the answer. FamilySearch doesn't have anything at all on the > family unit. (Parents are Jacob Knapp and Henrietta Kraiser) As I'm new to > German research, I would welcome any ideas for finding them or any > opinions as to whether the record means Kirchhain or Kirchheim. > > Thanks in advance, Helen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HESSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Helen, There is a Kirschheim in Hesse near Heppenheim. I have KNAPP family from there. Let's trade notes. JW Rettig Cincinnati Hello everyone, I am new to this list and am here for some assistance. I have been working on his problem for weeks. My G-grandmother was Amelia Knapp who came to America with her parents about 855 and I have an 1880 New York City marriage record that very clearly states er place of birth as Kirchhain b/Erfurt. -----Original Message----- From: Helen Maliszewski <HelenM57@comcast.net> To: DEU-THUERINGEN <DEU-THUERINGEN@rootsweb.com>; HESSE <HESSE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 11:14 am Subject: [HESSE] Kirchhain or Kirchheim Hello everyone, I am new to this list and am here for some assistance. I have been working on his problem for weeks. My G-grandmother was Amelia Knapp who came to America with her parents about 855 and I have an 1880 New York City marriage record that very clearly states er place of birth as Kirchhain b/Erfurt. Not being familiar with this town, I went looking for it in my Legacy Geo atabase and discovered two - one in Hessen and one in Brandenburg. The one in randenburg is actually listed as Doberlug-Kirchhain on Google Maps. My problem is that Kirchhain isn't exactly close to Erfurt. If someone was using rfurt to distinguish the location, wouldn't they have used Frankfurt instead? t's a major city closer to the Hessen Kirchhain than Erfurt is. So I looked at Erfurt on the map and discovered that there is a Kirchheim VERY lose to Erfurt - about 5km south of the city limits. Now I need to decide whether the record does indeed mean Kirchhain, or made an rror and should have written Kirchheim. I have tried in vain to locate this family in another record that would give me he answer. FamilySearch doesn't have anything at all on the family unit. Parents are Jacob Knapp and Henrietta Kraiser) As I'm new to German research, I ould welcome any ideas for finding them or any opinions as to whether the ecord means Kirchhain or Kirchheim. Thanks in advance, Helen ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HESSE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

JW - I'm afraid I don't have any notes to trade. Everything I know so far is in the post I wrote. The general concensus on the Thüringen board is that I probably am looking at Kirchheim bei Erfurt. That is where I expect to begin. Brian - thanks for such a great tip. I will definitely check that out. Google translator is going to get quite a workout.