Antwerp was one of the logical ports of embarkation for emigrants. It would not be strange that they would have come through there. Not all emigrants traveled down the Rhine, some went overland to the port cities of the Netherlands. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Erickson" <wasieerick@milwpc.com> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Port of Antwerp > I have the same problem. Not only did Anton Reibold bring his family out by > way of Antwerp, but GTA lists his place of origin as Hegnach. I know by > U.S. census reports that this family is from Hessen-Darmstadt. My family > left in 1846. I also know Anton's wife boarded with a three month year old, > so I do not know whether they had to stop somewhere due to her pregnancy, > but when I have looked at maps, they do appear to have taken a very strange > route. > > I share this story because my family appeared to have done the same thing > around the same period. I guess we need to find out what was going on > around that time. > > Dianne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter C. Guins" <pguins@voyager.net> > To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:20 AM > Subject: [HESSE] Port of Antwerp > > > > I have recently found information on the emigration of my ancestors from > > Hesse. They had been living in Allenrod as late as 1834 when their > > youngest child was born. They subsequently (some of them) sailed from > > Antwerp on the Philadelphia and arrived in New York 20 September 1847. > > > > Why would a family travel all the way to Antwerp to emigrate? Would it > > be more likely that they had spent some time in Antwerp before deciding > > to go to America? Any thoughts are welcome. > > > > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > > Postal Codes, How to Pay for Research, German Language > > Letters, Archive Addresses, German Telephone directory, > > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm > > > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html > to unsubscribe >

My LEYENDECKER family lived very close to the Rhein River just outside Coblenz. The easiest port for them was Antwerp since they could catch a boat out of Coblenz and travel the Rhein to Antwerp. John >>> "Dianne Erickson" <wasieerick@milwpc.com> 09/01/03 12:42PM >>> I have the same problem. Not only did Anton Reibold bring his family out by way of Antwerp, but GTA lists his place of origin as Hegnach. I know by U.S. census reports that this family is from Hessen-Darmstadt. My family left in 1846. I also know Anton's wife boarded with a three month year old, so I do not know whether they had to stop somewhere due to her pregnancy, but when I have looked at maps, they do appear to have taken a very strange route. I share this story because my family appeared to have done the same thing around the same period. I guess we need to find out what was going on around that time. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C. Guins" <pguins@voyager.net> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: [HESSE] Port of Antwerp > I have recently found information on the emigration of my ancestors from > Hesse. They had been living in Allenrod as late as 1834 when their > youngest child was born. They subsequently (some of them) sailed from > Antwerp on the Philadelphia and arrived in New York 20 September 1847. > > Why would a family travel all the way to Antwerp to emigrate? Would it > be more likely that they had spent some time in Antwerp before deciding > to go to America? Any thoughts are welcome. > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Postal Codes, How to Pay for Research, German Language > Letters, Archive Addresses, German Telephone directory, > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html to unsubscribe

I have the same problem. Not only did Anton Reibold bring his family out by way of Antwerp, but GTA lists his place of origin as Hegnach. I know by U.S. census reports that this family is from Hessen-Darmstadt. My family left in 1846. I also know Anton's wife boarded with a three month year old, so I do not know whether they had to stop somewhere due to her pregnancy, but when I have looked at maps, they do appear to have taken a very strange route. I share this story because my family appeared to have done the same thing around the same period. I guess we need to find out what was going on around that time. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C. Guins" <pguins@voyager.net> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: [HESSE] Port of Antwerp > I have recently found information on the emigration of my ancestors from > Hesse. They had been living in Allenrod as late as 1834 when their > youngest child was born. They subsequently (some of them) sailed from > Antwerp on the Philadelphia and arrived in New York 20 September 1847. > > Why would a family travel all the way to Antwerp to emigrate? Would it > be more likely that they had spent some time in Antwerp before deciding > to go to America? Any thoughts are welcome. > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Postal Codes, How to Pay for Research, German Language > Letters, Archive Addresses, German Telephone directory, > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm >

I have recently found information on the emigration of my ancestors from Hesse. They had been living in Allenrod as late as 1834 when their youngest child was born. They subsequently (some of them) sailed from Antwerp on the Philadelphia and arrived in New York 20 September 1847. Why would a family travel all the way to Antwerp to emigrate? Would it be more likely that they had spent some time in Antwerp before deciding to go to America? Any thoughts are welcome.

I am looking for information regarding this ROOS & WABEL family that went to Cleveland, Ohio. 1 John Roos b: 1789 d: 1860 +Catherine Elise Pletch b: 1790 d: 1853 2 Catharina Elisabeth Roos b: October 15, 1824 in Beilstein, Nassau, Germany d: March 09, 1913 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co., OH +Carl Wabel b: June 21, 1817 in Haiger, Nassau, Germany m: in Germany d: February 25, 1890 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co., OH Father: Johann Thielman Wabel Mother: Anna Elisabeth Schneider Information appreciated. Francine Conn Halter

According to the Bible Record in the Pension Papers of Jacob Rose - son of Wilhelm - Wilhelm was born 14 Sep 1738 in Hesse Cassel. Can some one suggest how we might determine just where he was born. He married Elizabeth SCHOOLCRAFT 30 Oct 1760 in Schoharie County NY. I have not been able to find when he arrived in America. We are trying to determine if he had a brother who perhaps came with him. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Betty Rose Gregory Edmond OK

A bit more free advice - about worth what you paid for it-- A lawyer, Max Knecht, in Switzerland seeing my last name on e--mail was kind enough to suggest that since he lived near a village - Baldingen, Aargau, where there were many Laube families he would look up a few facts for me in local churches. We developed this plan - I wrote him in my language - English - and he wrote me in German. This way at least the writer gets the facts down on paper in the language in which he is least likely to make mistakes. This developed over the years into the most interesting correspondence. Max was able to get access and understood local records that I could never have done! I have lost track of him. He did not answer my last e-mails - several years ago now. His Knechts were intermarried with a Laube family, but we could not for many years connect that Laube family with my tribe. Then following up on a remembrance still alive in my family - that one Laube brother was born in Germany and the other in Arrgau. Switzerland. We narrowed our search down the northwest corner of Arrgau where there remained until after 1800, a German-Arrgau border, and there in a local church he found a Laube family that could have resided in house on the border - so open bedroom was in Germany and the other was in Switzerland. And that Laube family had a Knecht that was in his line and the Laubes were in mine - we were -from memory - sixth cousins. For you there are ways of getting very quick rough inaccurate translations - and in the meantime you can send your German text to on-line translators who will do an excellent job for free - in a week or ten-days Or at least this was so several years ago-- Keep your sentences very short and to the point. Do not try to make jokes. Limit each e-mail to one subject if at all possible. Be brief not windy as I am - best regards and I do hope this works out for you - it is an invaluable contact. Hal ----- Original essage ----- From: "Wilson Christina" <fmlyhntr@yahoo.com> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: [HESSE] Re: Emailing Germany Protocol > The answer is, depends. If you know someone who writes > and reads German well, who is willing to help you, > then I suggest you write your newly found cousin in > German. Ask that if possible they respond in English. > You probably don't want to wait for translator to > translate. <G> > > If you don't know someone, then write in English--at > worst they won't respond. > > Christina > > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:26:21 -0700 > > From: "Ginni L. Morey" <glmorey@earthlink.net> > > To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [HESSE] Emailing Germany Protocol > > > > I have a question that I hope someone can help me > > with. I have recently > > found thru Ancestry.com someone in Germany who might > > be a cousin. They have > > posted their data in Ancestry World Tree in English. > > When emailing this > > person do I assume that they speak and read English > > or do I have someone > > help me write an email in German? I don't want to > > offend them and very > > ignorant about protocol when emailing foreign > > countries. Thank for the > > help. > > - > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ginni Morey from Campbell CA > > Santa Clara County Historical & Genealogical Society > > Web Master: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascchgs/ > > Personal Home page: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinwald > > mailto: GLMorey@earthlink.net > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > ______________________________

Thanks so much, Janis Beth, for the suggested potential sources. Though I did find Küstner books on both sites, unfortunately none were the book that I seek. Don in MD Subj: [HESSE] Re: Merxheim Book Date: 08/22/2003 11:42:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: lorenbeth@usa.net (Janis Wilkens & Larry Beth) Reply-to: lorenbeth@usa.net To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com Don, you might try ABE or ALIBRIS online used book stores. They're more likely to have something like this than eBay, in my experience. The URLs: http://www.abebooks.com/ http://www.alibris.com/ -- Janis Beth Wilkens in South Carolina Subj: [HESSE] Merxheim Book Date: 08/21/2003 4:10:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: Ahnentaf@wmconnect.com To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com All you nice folks have come through for me in the past. I'm hoping you may be able to do it again. I am interested in buying copies of a book, "Evangelische Einwohner in Merxheim, 1525-1900" [translated as "Protestant Inhabitants of Merxheim, 1525-1900"] which is one of a number of books authored by K. Herbert KU[with umlaut]STNER. Unfortunately, Herr KÜSTNER passed away recently. I am told that all of his genealogical papers have been given to a trust. The trust has only one copy of the book in question, and there are no plans to go to print again. I tried the eBay.de site, but to no avail. Does anyone know where I might get cop(y)ies of this book? Don in MD

Don, you might try ABE or ALIBRIS online used book stores. They're more likely to have something like this than eBay, in my experience. The URLs: http://www.abebooks.com/ http://www.alibris.com/ -- Janis Beth Wilkens in South Carolina To confront a person with his own shadow is to show him his own light. -Carl G. Jung, psychiatrist (1875-1961) -- X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:58:24 EDT From: Ahnentaf@wmconnect.com To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <14.179b43ed.2c767e60@wmconnect.com> Subject: [HESSE] Merxheim Book Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists5.rootsweb.com id h7M20PnC025015 All you nice folks have come through for me in the past. I'm hoping you = may=20 be able to do it again. I am interested in buying copies of a book, "Evangelische Einwohner in=20 Merxheim, 1525-1900" [translated as "Protestant Inhabitants of Merxheim, = 1525-1900"]=20 which is one of a number of books authored by K. Herbert KU[with umlaut]S= TNER. Unfortunately, Herr K=DCSTNER passed away recently. I am told that all o= f his=20 genealogical papers have been given to a trust. The trust has only one c= opy=20 of the book in question, and there are no plans to go to print again. I = tried=20 the eBay.de site, but to no avail. Does anyone know where I might get cop(y)ies of this book? Don in MD

All you nice folks have come through for me in the past. I'm hoping you may be able to do it again. I am interested in buying copies of a book, "Evangelische Einwohner in Merxheim, 1525-1900" [translated as "Protestant Inhabitants of Merxheim, 1525-1900"] which is one of a number of books authored by K. Herbert KU[with umlaut]STNER. Unfortunately, Herr KÜSTNER passed away recently. I am told that all of his genealogical papers have been given to a trust. The trust has only one copy of the book in question, and there are no plans to go to print again. I tried the eBay.de site, but to no avail. Does anyone know where I might get cop(y)ies of this book? Don in MD

Thank you to everyone that replied. I sent an email and hopfully I'll find a new cousin!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ginni Morey from Campbell CA Santa Clara County Historical & Genealogical Society Web Master: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascchgs/ Personal Home page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinwald mailto: GLMorey@earthlink.net

> I am looking for any information about the family and parents of Anna > Elizabeth Wagner born 14 February 1808 in Nieder Aspe bei Marburg. She > married Johann Jacob Donges in 1834 in Baltimore, Maryland and died 2 > January 1871 in Warrick Co. IN. Any information would be greatly > appreciated. > Pam Vandenhoff > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello Pam, unfortunately AFAIK there are no Niederasphe parish records filmed by LDS to get the parents of Elisabeth, at least that place is not listed at http://tinyurl.com/jn3r . It could be an idea to ask parish Niederasphe Pfarramt if someone is able to do a lookup or knows where the records are. Parish homepage http://www.kirche-niederasphe.de/ and Email: info@kirche-niederasphe.de BTW Google has a very old message concerning Dr. Stoehr who knows how to research in Niederasphe records: http://tinyurl.com/kpd8 . Good luck, Ralf

The answer is, depends. If you know someone who writes and reads German well, who is willing to help you, then I suggest you write your newly found cousin in German. Ask that if possible they respond in English. You probably don't want to wait for translator to translate. <G> If you don't know someone, then write in English--at worst they won't respond. Christina Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:26:21 -0700 > From: "Ginni L. Morey" <glmorey@earthlink.net> > To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HESSE] Emailing Germany Protocol > > I have a question that I hope someone can help me > with. I have recently > found thru Ancestry.com someone in Germany who might > be a cousin. They have > posted their data in Ancestry World Tree in English. > When emailing this > person do I assume that they speak and read English > or do I have someone > help me write an email in German? I don't want to > offend them and very > ignorant about protocol when emailing foreign > countries. Thank for the > help. > - > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Ginni Morey from Campbell CA > Santa Clara County Historical & Genealogical Society > Web Master: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascchgs/ > Personal Home page: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinwald > mailto: GLMorey@earthlink.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

I am looking for any information about the family and parents of Anna Elizabeth Wagner born 14 February 1808 in Nieder Aspe bei Marburg. She married Johann Jacob Donges in 1834 in Baltimore, Maryland and died 2 January 1871 in Warrick Co. IN. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Pam Vandenhoff

I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. I have recently found thru Ancestry.com someone in Germany who might be a cousin. They have posted their data in Ancestry World Tree in English. When emailing this person do I assume that they speak and read English or do I have someone help me write an email in German? I don't want to offend them and very ignorant about protocol when emailing foreign countries. Thank for the help. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ginni Morey from Campbell CA Santa Clara County Historical & Genealogical Society Web Master: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascchgs/ Personal Home page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinwald mailto: GLMorey@earthlink.net

Hi Bob, There are instructions on the LDS web site that should be helpful. Here is a direct link. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/rg/guide/Ger_BMD_RefDoc_HandbookGermanResearch23.asp#appendix_b Kind regards, Mary Ross >Please, where can one see (auf Englisch) the instructions/explanation for >Myers? > >Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks >Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/Dieburg_Births.htm --

Please, where can one see (auf Englisch) the instructions/explanation for Myers? Bob Doerr in the beautiful Missouri Ozarks Please see http://www.rollanet.org/~bdoerr/Dieburg_Births.htm

Hello Again Listers, Time is rolling on and new research has come to light about my Deppers. It seems that my Michael Depper died in St Clements Hospital in Oestrich, on 15 Nov 1889. He left his body to science-- Questions--. 1.Is it usual in Germany to do this.? 2.How can I find out what he died from ? 3. Is St Clements Hospital still in Oestrich ? Any help appreciated With Thanks Erla

> ... I also have a contact in the small village of Unter-Schonmattenwag, which is a couple > of miles south. I was there searching for info on my GGmother, Elizabeth Schroth who left > there in 1873. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Chuck, do you know the parents of Elisabeth Schroth? there is at least one Schroth-ancestry in Unter-Schönmattenwag done by an other researcher and some SCHROTH are linked with my SAUER-family in that village http://andorama.bei.t-online.de/1bis33.htm > I don't know what an Ortsfamilienbuch is... There is a "Familienbuch Wald Michelbach" listing families with their children http://tinyurl.com/k24i in catholic LDS-film #996670. Also there are transcripts of the parish registers of Wald Michelbach, 1808-1875 done by Dorothea Pfefferkorn http://tinyurl.com/k25d using Kirchenbuchduplikat 1808-1875 (Evangelische Kirche Wald Michelbach). Greetings, Ralf http://andorama.bei.t-online.de/usliste.htm

Jeff, I have been in Waldmichelbach... not too long ago, 11 September 2001, in fact! The town has a website. I have a contact, the Catholic priest, who I found while I was there. I also have a contact in the small village of Unter-Schonmattenwag, which is a couple of miles south. I was there searching for info on my GGmother, Elizabeth Schroth who left there in 1873. I don't know what an Ortsfamilienbuch is... Chuck Sizer Johann Georg Krebs came from Waldmichelbach/Hessen. He was born in 1755. Married to Anna Barbara Muller on 19 November 1776. Anna was born in Leimen on the date 24 April 1754. I would be interested in contacting someone that knows the area or has contacts in the village (area). Also, is there a Ortsfamilienbuch available for the village of Waldmichelbach/Hessen or Leimen area? Jeff Krebs E-mail: jeffkrebs@shaw.ca ______________________________