Hello, I just subsribed yesterday to this mailing list and am hoping to hear from the experts the best way(s) to go about finding birth records in Hesse-Darmstadt for my GGgrandparents listed below: 1) Wilhelmine Paar. She was born in Hesse-Darmstadt on the 5th of May 1845. I have no clue who were her parents and there is nothing listed for her at the LDS website. I found from "Germans to America, 1850-1874" at Genealogy.com that she she embarked from Bremen on the "New York" and arrived as a "20" yr old in New York on the 13th of May, 1867--there's no further info on her in this online record, except I can say that there were no other Paars on this ship. I have no clue about the names of her parents and there is no marriage or death record for her in New York. 2) Wilhelm Lutz. He was born in Hesse-Darmstadt in 1842 (don't know specific date). His parents were Johan and Barbara Anna Lutz and I think they came to the US in the 1850's, but not sure as there are many Lutz immigrants. I have no marriage record for Wilhelm (changed his name to William) and his obit says nothing about exact birthdate or place. Thanks a bunch in advance for any response! Brian Hamman hammanx6@mindspring.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/2003

Hello, I am new to this list , and I am searching for information on the following ILLIG family. LUDWIG CHRISTOPH ALBRECHT ILLIG, birth date unknown , marriage date unknown, in Germany wife: ANNE MARIE MEYER (maiden name) children : (that I have so far (I think??) ALL christened in STADTPFARRI , EVAGELISCH, DARMSTADT, STARKENBURG, HESSEN , GERMANY 1) JOHANN KARL HEINRICH ILLIG , born 1820 2) WILHELMINE ELISE FREDRIKE ILLIG , born 1822 3) GEORGE CHRISTIAN WILHELM ILLIG , born 1824 4) PHILIP ILLIG , born 1831 5) LUDWIG ILLIG , born 1834 6) believe there was also a WILHELM ILLIG??? These dates may not be right, and there may be more children. my husbands line is PHILIP ILLIG he was in St. Clair co. Illinois (USA) in 1858 he married CAROLINE KEIM. I would Love to know when the arrived in the US , and if they came together or separately. Did their parents come with them? Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you have this line , or, if anything is familiar , please email me. Thank You Carol Illig

> ... There are names which can't be translated. > But you may know the Bible and the 3 Kings (or Wise Men) from the East. > In German, their names are Kaspar, Melchior and Balthasar. ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The name Melchior has Hebrew origin and means about: "King [Jehowa] is the light" (explanation in German see below). Greetings, Ralf ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: http://www.xipolis.net Melchior: auf den gleich lautenden Rufnamen hebräischen Ursprungs (hebr. *Melki'or, zu hebr. mälak >König< und 'or >Licht<, etwa >König [Jahwe] ist Licht<) zurückgehender Familienname. Kaspar: auf den gleich lautenden Rufnamen persischer Herkunft (altpersisch kandschwar >Schatzmeister<, zu altpersisch gandsch >Schatz<) zurückgehender Familienname. Balthasar: männl. Vorn., griechische Form eines akkadischen Namens (Bel-scharra-usur »Gott [Baal] erhalte den König«). Diesen Namen gab der oberste Kämmerer Nebukadnezars dem Propheten Daniel.

I'm researching my husband's maternal line and that includes the HESSE family of Staten Island, NY at the turn of the century..... Her name was Helena Louisa (Lena)Hesse.. She was born in Stapleton, (Richmond),Staten Island, NY Generation No. 1 1. ? HESSE He married JOHANNA BROOKER (or Bruecker) Abt. 1877 in Stapleton, Richmond,Staten Island,NY. (These people could not speak English) Children of ? HESS and JOHANNA BROOKER are: 2. i. HELENA LOUISA HESSE, b. 1877. ii. JOHN HESSE. iii. EDWARD HESSE. iv. THERESA HESSE. v. EMILY HESSE. Generation No. 2 2. HELENA LOUISA HESSE was born 1877. She married LEONARD BAKER WELLMAN 1898 in Stapleton,Richmond,Staten Island, NY, son of LEONARD WILHELM and MARY CHERRY. He was born 1874 in Plymouth, Lununburg, VA, and died Bet. 1944 - 1945 in Stapleton,Richmond,Staten Island, NY. Thank-you, Joyce Clark Foster

I have numerous family members named Caspar, Balthaser and Melchoir, None had nicknames or Americanized equivalants and I have never heard of any . All of my said ancestors were named Johann at birth until they received their Christian name at baptism , afterwhich they were always known as Caspar, Melchoir or Balthaser. C L WEIDEMEYER

There are names which can't be translated. But you may know the Bible and the 3 Kings (or Wise Men) from the East. In German, their names are Kaspar, Melchior and Balthasar. Just substitute Melchior by the name by which the middle one is known in English, and you've got it. By the way, Martin is Martin in Germany. Heinz

While likely not an official translation of any kind, my gggrandfather's brother, Melchior, used "Michael" in the U.S. He came from a large family, and he did have brothers named Balthasar and Casper (the latter only lived for five months). This was a family from Switzerland, likely with German roots. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: <7iron@gmx.de> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] meaning of the name in english > There are names which can't be translated. > > But you may know the Bible and the 3 Kings (or Wise Men) from the East. In > German, their names are Kaspar, Melchior and Balthasar. Just substitute > Melchior by the name by which the middle one is known in English, and you've > got it. > > By the way, Martin is Martin in Germany. > > Heinz > > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Postal Codes, How to Pay for Research, German Language > Letters, Archive Addresses, German Telephone directory, > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm >

does anyone know what the english version of the name Melchior is? would it be martin? teresa.

Searching for information on family of Jacob Kester/Helena Schmidt& sons, Christian, George. To USA/Brooklyn in 1872 Marge

hello, i am researching my krimmel ancestors who were from Albshaussen-nassau, i got as far as fredrich krimmel born 1768 who married anna margaretha gaul, hoping to find who his parents were, fredrich died in 1812, any guidance greatly appreciated, teresa.

I have been told that most of the church records for Hanau Kr. are archived in the community center in Hanau. Does anyone know how to contact this community center and the procedure for obtaining records. Carol Elk Grove, CA USA

Beginning search for: Anna Elizabeth SCHONFELD, b. 11 Oct 1846 in Darnsday?, Hesse Darmstadt. She came with parents: John SCHONFELD & Cathrine MULLER about 1853 to Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio. "Eliza" married Joseph KANEY (KUHNE) on 4 Feb 1866 in Cincinnati & had several children. Would appreciate any suggestions as to records or indexes to search to find this family. Thanks, Renee __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

I'm searching for records of my fourth Great Grandmother (b. Sep 1751 most likely) who stated that she was born and lived in Hanaus Land, six miles from Frankfurt, until she left for American in the summer of 1773. I've only been able to find one church for one town/village in the Hanau Kreis, and it was for Fechenheim. I suspect other village/town church records exist, but don't know how to locate them or who to contact? The records I found were from the LDS family History Library. Any help or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Carol Elk Grove, CA

Hello Dave! Not far away, in Kiedrich near Mainz and Wiesbaden, the priest wrote in 1632 that the most people in the town died because of pestilence and dysenteria. Viele Grüße Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Ross" <newtross@wowway.com> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: [HESSE] 1632 epidemic? > What kind of an epidemic was going on in 1632, particularly up along the Mosel -- or was it widespread? Something tells me that was a plague year. Is there a site that covers the illnesses and plagues chronologically for Germany/Europe? > > Thanks Dave Ross >

What kind of an epidemic was going on in 1632, particularly up along the Mosel -- or was it widespread? Something tells me that was a plague year. Is there a site that covers the illnesses and plagues chronologically for Germany/Europe? Thanks Dave Ross

Does anyone recognize this family born in Germany, probably Darmstadt, Hesse? FLEISCHAUER children: Will b 1868, Christina b 1870, Anna Marie b 1872, George b 1874, Fred by 1876, Morris(Maurice) - my grandfather - b 1880, and Dorothy b ;1882 any help would be very appreciated. Ann Weaver Boldt Marnerose@aol.com

In a message dated 09/24/2003 8:34:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, S9359338@aol.com writes: > The following problems occurred while processing your request: > > Saluly - This member is currently not accepting e-mail from your account. > > Your mail has not been sent. Please correct the problems listed and try > > I found him in 1870 PA census > Charles Severs > Sorry I had to send this to the list Saluly appears to be shy about mail > from strangers > Illinois has a rather extensive genealogical archives. You might try http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/, then click on departments, then click on archives to start your search. I'm not certain, but Alton may be in Madison County. Don in MD

Sorry for the problem, my email is now open sue

The following problems occurred while processing your request: Saluly - This member is currently not accepting e-mail from your account. Your mail has not been sent. Please correct the problems listed and try I found him in 1870 PA census Charles Severs Sorry I had to send this to the list Saluly appears to be shy about mail from strangers

In a message dated 9/24/2003 7:55:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Saluly@aol.com writes: > I have posted a message before asking for any information on the surname > LULY > and am hoping still that someone can give me information. I have that they > came to the US a little after 1850, his name was Lenhart LULY. I show him > married to Catherine WAGONER, WAGGNER, WAGNER, either before they left or > in St. > Lewis later or maybe Alton, Ill. LULY could be LULIE, LULI. I have not been > able to find what port he left from or came to , they lived in St Louis and > then > Alton, ILL. He was born in Hesse D in 1823. I have no idea how to find out > what town? > Thank You sue Hi Sue, Thy this spelling, "LULAY." There are many folks by this name in Heppenheim, Hesse. Jim Rettig Heppenheim>Cincinnati