Trying to find my grandfather, Clemens Wiegand, from Hesse - came to USA in October 1888, settled in Louisville, KY. The word - Lauderbach - is on his passport. He was born on March 5 or 7, 1860. Would like to find his family in Germany. I have the USA part.
The " in" at the end of a Surname generally indicates an unmarried female CARL
The first place to start is the city or town where they lived after emigrating. City directories of the years after their arrival will tell you in which part of the city they resided. Then, if, you know their religion you can locate a near by church of that religion and check it's records. The baptismal records of their children may give the town from which the parents emigrated from. From that you can go on to the area in Hesse where the town is/was located and search for the records there. That is the procedure that I used in locating the birth place, which were in Hesse and Hannover, of both sets of my German born great grandparents. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "bware" <beware3@earthlink.net> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:59 PM Subject: [HESSE] RE: Hesse Kassel > is there somewhere i can go to find the historical towns and villages of > the area occupied by Hesse Kassel? i was once told by a librarian at > LDS library that i didn't have enough to find any information on my > ancestor unless i knew what city he came from. unfortunately all i have > been able to find out about him is that he came from Hesse Kassel. > > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Looking for old messages? > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html > Search or Browse > >
Hello List - I have had some baptism records translated through the yahoo group (which I highly recommend). Sometimes when the maiden name of the mother of the child is given, an "in" is included after her surname. This is usually translated in brackets - e.g. Plazer(in), Schmitt(in). What does the "in" mean? Also, there are two men in the village with the same name (thankfully different wives names). One man usually appears with a very small "Son" above his name. Does this mean anything (such as the equivalent to junior in English)? thanks, Anita
is there somewhere i can go to find the historical towns and villages of the area occupied by Hesse Kassel? i was once told by a librarian at LDS library that i didn't have enough to find any information on my ancestor unless i knew what city he came from. unfortunately all i have been able to find out about him is that he came from Hesse Kassel.
Seeking information on Weisheimer's. Mathew Weisheimer b. in Hesse and died in 1870 in New Orleans, LA. His son Augustus Weisheimer married Sophie Hoffmann Sprowle (Sproule). The are seen in the 1870 census living in 9th ward New Orleans, LA with sophie's 2 sons from a previous marriage and 2 sons from this marriage. By 1880, the fmaily relocated for they are found in Merced Co., California. Augustus worked for the railroads. They had 2 other children shown on the 1880 census. Also I am looking for _______ Weisheimer who married Hanna Frederika Hoffmann Johnston. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tami Johnston-Parise JOHNSTON/HOFFMAN/KISIEL/CLAVOK(CLARK)/HOERNER(Hörner)/ZWIEFEL/ DOCLAR/HIGGINS/WEISHEIMER/SPROUL(E)
Thanks for your kindness in researching and replying. Suggested by another on the list, Burg-Grafenrode is possibly the place of interest. Will look at church records from there and watch for GAHN. The only name I know from there, so far, besides HESS, is Wilhelmine's maiden name, HELE (not sure about this, or its spelling). Best regards, Albert. Adodge74@aol.com wrote:Albert,are you related to the GAHN's in Hessen? Will wait til some more knowledgeable can tell us your exact spelling of the town Your spelling on back of name is not German. Try to find it via mapquest and couldn't find it. Greetings Doris --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Thanks for your kindness in researching and replying. "Rothgrafenburg" was mentioned in another document as the birthplace of a daughter Margaretha HESS; as a place name, Rothgrafenburg could be someone's version of Burg-Grafenrode. In any case, there are some church records available for Burg-Grafenrode, which I hope to examine soon. David Rorer <drorer@fuse.net> wrote:I suspect you have a misspelling. The closest my Gross Shell Atlas comes is a Burg-Grafenrode, which happens to be in Hesse. However, without knowing any more it will be impossible to narrow this down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Davey" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: [HESSE] Burgrafsmoth, Hessen > Burgrafsmoth, Hessen, was given as the former home of my g-g-grandparents Nicolaus and Wilhelmine HESS, on their ship's passenger list from Hamburg in 1858. I haven't been able to find this place on a map, and would like to know its location, to find church records. All suggestions and help appreciated. Albert Davey. > > > > --------------------------------- > Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Don't overlook the Hesse mailing list taglines at the > bottom of each list E-Mail you receive. Valuable infor- > mation is presented there! > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== Postal Codes, How to Pay for Research, German Language Letters, Archive Addresses, German Telephone directory, http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Hal, They probably attended the Reformed Church in Fellerdilln. Most of the records have been filmed by the Mormon Church and are available at the FHL of the Mormon Church. Bill Schultz
In about 1750 we have the Vollmer family living in Southwark District of Philadelphia. They came from Dillenburg in Dillkreis, Hessen-Nassau, Germany. They were Reformeirte which is not surprising since the Count of Nassau-Dillenburg, had converted from Evangelisch to Reformeirte in 1573. From what little I know of German Dialects I suppose they spoke Mittel-deutsch subgroup Rhein-fränkish?. Elisabetha Vollmerin married Michael Egolff in 1751. He was Lutheran born in Engstlatt/Engstadt, Würtemberg. These first Egolff's spoke Schwäbisch-alemannisch a subgroup of Ober-deutsch. Of course the language of love overcomes all such earthly obstacles as different dialects. The Reverend Muhlenburg, Lutheran minister of St. Michael's, married them in a quiet ceremony in her parent's home. Michael was a widower. Differences in religious beliefs have always been with us. This marriage was no exception. Elisabetha was married ten-years before she agreed to instruction in the Lutheran faith, but did she complete the process? Was Baptism necessary when becoming a Lutheran? There is no record that she became a Lutheran? The religious difference was probably exacerbated by the fact that the Vollmers lived next door to Jacob Duche. I guess Jacob was the son of the better known Anthony Duche. The Duche family owned a large part of Southwark. Anthony was a Huguenot and no doubt Reformed. So the Vollmer and Duche families attended First Reformed. while the Egolf's attended St. Michael's Lutheran. And Jacob Duche was Michael Egolff's landlord. However, they were known to be good friends - both loved horses. The War for our Independence tore them apart - Duche was a Loyalist - and in 1770 Anthony Duche fled to England. In September of that year General Howe took over Philadelphia - for the winter. The Egolf family moved west.... I would welcome a comment.... best regards Hal
Hallo Hartmut, leider funktionieren die Listen nicht, deshalb sende ich meine E-Mail nochmals mit zusätzlichem Literaturhinweis zu von STOCKHAUSEN > > laut "Genealogen-Lexikon" von Hans-Jürgen Pauli, > Varia-Verlag, 71732 Tamm, Stuttgarter Str. 202, > > sucht nach STOCKHAUSEN 1780 in Kasbach/Sinzig > Spürk, Gustav-August, Bärenkampstr. 53, 45894 Gelsenkirchen, > Tel./Fax: 0209-30896, e-mail nicht angegeben > > sucht nach STOCKHAUSEN 1534 in Hersfeld > Becker, Dr. Ludwig, Birkenweg 13, 61381 Friedrichsdorf, > Tel.: 06172-78263, e-mail nicht angegeben > > sucht nach v. STOCKHAUSEN 1760 in Calle > Neise, Prof. Dr. Karl, Am Wildwechsel 24, 51109 Köln, > Tel.: 0221-843505, e-mail nicht angegeben > > sucht(e) nach STOCKHAUSEN 1490 in Hersfeld (enthalten in einer > unveröffentlichte Stammtafel ab der 5. Ahnengeneration GOETHEs) > Rösch, Prof. Dr. Siegfried (1899-1984) > www.genetalogie.de/roesch/roesch.html > Nachlaßverwalter: Arndt Richter, Grünstadter Platz 21, 81539 München, > Tel. bzw. e-mail nicht angegeben > Nachlaß II: Gesamtverwandtschaft GOETHE > Veröffentlichungen: GOETHEs Verwandtschaft. Versuch einer Gesamtverwandt- > schaftstafel mit Gedanken zu deren Theorien. (4. Ahnengeneration Ahnen- > nummern 16-31) Neustadt/Aisch, 1956 (Degener-Verlag) > > Die handschriftlichen Originale der Stammtafeln befinden sich im Archiv des > Nachlaßverwalters Arndt Richter Weiterer Literaturhinweis: Stammbuch der althessischen Ritterschaft, Familie von STOCKHAUSEN zu Immenhausen (vorh. im Stadtarchiv Erfurt, Gotthardstr. 21) MfG Andreas Meininger > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hartmut 'Tünn' Klein" <Thuenn@t-online.de> > To: "Hessen-L" <hessen-l@genealogy.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:43 AM > Subject: [Hessen-L] Nachkommen Stockhausen > > > Liebe Listenteilnehmer, > > Pfarrer Johann(es) Stockhausen, * um 1518 Hersfeld, + 26.01.1595 > Großen-Linden, war von 1545(46) bis zu seinem Tod Pfarrer in > Großen-Linden. > Über die Töchter seines Sohnes Tobias ist er für viele im hiesigen > Raum Vorfahre. > Seine männlichen Nachkommen waren meist Pfarrer, aber auch Beamte. > > Für eine Zusammenstellung seiner Nachkommen suchen wir noch Hinweise. > > Wer hat Ergänzungen und stellt sie zur Verfügung? > > Bekannt sind alle Angaben aus der Hassia sacra und aus Bingenheim > (Dank an Herrn Kötting), sowie die Angaben der FB Gießen, Leihgestern > und Großen-Linden. > > Von der "Familien=Chronik Stockhausen, Nr. 1 bis 138" (Staatsarchiv > Darmstadt, Nachlaß Stockhausen; Reg.-Nr. O 59) liegen bisher nur die > ersten 17 Seiten von vmtl. 141 vor. > > Wir freuen uns über jede Hilfestellung. > > Herzliche Grüße, > > Hartmut (Tünn) Klein > -- > Hartmut 'Tünn' Klein > Heide 31 > 35398 Gießen-Klein-Linden > 0641/24602 > thuenn@t-online.de > Internet-Seiten: www.giessen-klein-linden.de > www.lindehe.de > www.tuenn.de
Hi, This email was not meant for me, however I saw the name RICHTER in there. Since I am looking for RICHTER ancestors could someone tell me what he is saying about Arndt RICHTER? Thanks, Dorene --- Andreas Meininger <a.meininger@freenet.de> wrote: > Hallo Hartmut, > leider funktionieren die Listen nicht, > deshalb sende ich meine E-Mail nochmals > mit zus�tzlichem Literaturhinweis zu von STOCKHAUSEN > > > > laut "Genealogen-Lexikon" von Hans-J�rgen Pauli, > > Varia-Verlag, 71732 Tamm, Stuttgarter Str. 202, > > > > sucht nach STOCKHAUSEN 1780 in Kasbach/Sinzig > > Sp�rk, Gustav-August, B�renkampstr. 53, 45894 > Gelsenkirchen, > > Tel./Fax: 0209-30896, e-mail nicht angegeben > > > > sucht nach STOCKHAUSEN 1534 in Hersfeld > > Becker, Dr. Ludwig, Birkenweg 13, 61381 > Friedrichsdorf, > > Tel.: 06172-78263, e-mail nicht angegeben > > > > sucht nach v. STOCKHAUSEN 1760 in Calle > > Neise, Prof. Dr. Karl, Am Wildwechsel 24, 51109 > K�ln, > > Tel.: 0221-843505, e-mail nicht angegeben > > > > sucht(e) nach STOCKHAUSEN 1490 in Hersfeld > (enthalten in einer > > unver�ffentlichte Stammtafel ab der 5. > Ahnengeneration GOETHEs) > > R�sch, Prof. Dr. Siegfried (1899-1984) > > www.genetalogie.de/roesch/roesch.html > > Nachla�verwalter: Arndt Richter, Gr�nstadter Platz > 21, 81539 M�nchen, > > Tel. bzw. e-mail nicht angegeben > > Nachla� II: Gesamtverwandtschaft GOETHE > > Ver�ffentlichungen: GOETHEs Verwandtschaft. > Versuch einer Gesamtverwandt- > > schaftstafel mit Gedanken zu deren Theorien. (4. > Ahnengeneration Ahnen- > > nummern 16-31) Neustadt/Aisch, 1956 > (Degener-Verlag) > > > > Die handschriftlichen Originale der Stammtafeln > befinden sich im Archiv > des > > Nachla�verwalters Arndt Richter > > Weiterer Literaturhinweis: Stammbuch der > althessischen Ritterschaft, > Familie von STOCKHAUSEN zu Immenhausen > (vorh. im Stadtarchiv Erfurt, Gotthardstr. 21) > > MfG > Andreas Meininger > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hartmut 'T�nn' Klein" <Thuenn@t-online.de> > > To: "Hessen-L" <hessen-l@genealogy.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:43 AM > > Subject: [Hessen-L] Nachkommen Stockhausen > > > > > > Liebe Listenteilnehmer, > > > > Pfarrer Johann(es) Stockhausen, * um 1518 > Hersfeld, + 26.01.1595 > > Gro�en-Linden, war von 1545(46) bis zu seinem Tod > Pfarrer in > > Gro�en-Linden. > > �ber die T�chter seines Sohnes Tobias ist er f�r > viele im hiesigen > > Raum Vorfahre. > > Seine m�nnlichen Nachkommen waren meist Pfarrer, > aber auch Beamte. > > > > F�r eine Zusammenstellung seiner Nachkommen suchen > wir noch Hinweise. > > > > Wer hat Erg�nzungen und stellt sie zur Verf�gung? > > > > Bekannt sind alle Angaben aus der Hassia sacra und > aus Bingenheim > > (Dank an Herrn K�tting), sowie die Angaben der FB > Gie�en, Leihgestern > > und Gro�en-Linden. > > > > Von der "Familien=Chronik Stockhausen, Nr. 1 bis > 138" (Staatsarchiv > > Darmstadt, Nachla� Stockhausen; Reg.-Nr. O 59) > liegen bisher nur die > > ersten 17 Seiten von vmtl. 141 vor. > > > > Wir freuen uns �ber jede Hilfestellung. > > > > Herzliche Gr��e, > > > > Hartmut (T�nn) Klein > > -- > > Hartmut 'T�nn' Klein > > Heide 31 > > 35398 Gie�en-Klein-Linden > > 0641/24602 > > thuenn@t-online.de > > Internet-Seiten: www.giessen-klein-linden.de > > www.lindehe.de > > www.tuenn.de > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html > to unsubscribe > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
We have this concerning Elisabetha Voilmer born about 1729 in Dillenburg. mit Elisabetha gebürtig aus dem Nassauyschen Dellenburg ist, from a Fraktur probably commisioned in the early 1800's. We translate that to with Elisabetha (Vollmer), born in Dellenberg of Nassau,(about 1829)... Her parents were known to be Reformed. and I understand that is probably Dillenburg in Dillkreis, Hessen-Nassau, which is now Hesse? One question - What Reformed Church might they have attended? Second Question - What Dialect was spoken in Dillenburg? Best regards Hal
Does anyone on this HOENE list have any ROSTs in his family tree? In Germany my 2nd great-grandfather, CHRISTOPHER HOENE m. (Anna) MARTHA ROST around 1855. The location was in or about Oberhone, Kurthessen (Hessen-Nassau). MARTHA (Rost) HOENE, 4 daughters and one granddaughter came to America in 1882 and settled in Philadelphia for awhile. The 4 daughters were: Frederika - Margaretha - Louisa and Elizabetha (Eliza). The granddaughter, two year old, Amelia, was my grandmother Since all sources, here in America have been researched, if you have information about them, it would be greatly appreciated. Virginia
In a message dated 4/5/04 4:46:03 PM, TheFamilySleuth@aol.com writes: << Also, it seems to me that Bremen is quite far from Hesse-Darmstadt. How likely is it someone would make that journey? Couldn't they have boarded a ship somewhere closer? Also, are there any emigration indexes (auswanderung) or lists for the Hesse-Darmstadt area? >> In 1867, the ways to leave Hesse Darmstadt were by rail, by river, by foot, or by a combination of these three. Obviously, the emigrants did whatever they could afford and what was easiest to accomplish. The ports of Le Havre, Rotterdam, Bremen, and Hamburg were the likeliest choices. Yes, there are a number of published sources for emigration information for Hesse. If you check out the information on the Hesse website you'll find the references to these sources. I've also mentioned them a number of times on this list, so they're in the archives for this list. You could also Google for "Auswanderungen". That should get some hits. Dona Ritchie
Hallo Hartmut, hallo Listenteilnehmer, laut "Genealogen-Lexikon" von Hans-Jürgen Pauli, Varia-Verlag, 71732 Tamm, Stuttgarter Str. 202, sucht nach STOCKHAUSEN 1780 in Kasbach/Sinzig Spürk, Gustav-August, Bärenkampstr. 53, 45894 Gelsenkirchen, Tel./Fax: 0209-30896, e-mail nicht angegeben sucht nach STOCKHAUSEN 1534 in Hersfeld Becker, Dr. Ludwig, Birkenweg 13, 61381 Friedrichsdorf, Tel.: 06172-78263, e-mail nicht angegeben sucht nach v. STOCKHAUSEN 1760 in Calle Neise, Prof. Dr. Karl, Am Wildwechsel 24, 51109 Köln, Tel.: 0221-843505, e-mail nicht angegeben sucht(e) nach STOCKHAUSEN 1490 in Hersfeld (enthalten in einer unveröffentlichte Stammtafel ab der 5. Ahnengeneration GOETHEs) Rösch, Prof. Dr. Siegfried (1899-1984) www.genetalogie.de/roesch/roesch.html Nachlaßverwalter: Arndt Richter, Grünstadter Platz 21, 81539 München, Tel. bzw. e-mail nicht angegeben Nachlaß II: Gesamtverwandtschaft GOETHE Veröffentlichungen: GOETHEs Verwandtschaft. Versuch einer Gesamtverwandt- schaftstafel mit Gedanken zu deren Theorien. (4. Ahnengeneration Ahnen- nummern 16-31) Neustadt/Aisch, 1956 (Degener-Verlag) Die handschriftlichen Originale der Stammtafeln befinden sich im Archiv des Nachlaßverwalters Arndt Richter MfG Andreas Meininger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut 'Tünn' Klein" <Thuenn@t-online.de> To: "Hessen-L" <hessen-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:43 AM Subject: [Hessen-L] Nachkommen Stockhausen Liebe Listenteilnehmer, Pfarrer Johann(es) Stockhausen, * um 1518 Hersfeld, + 26.01.1595 Großen-Linden, war von 1545(46) bis zu seinem Tod Pfarrer in Großen-Linden. Über die Töchter seines Sohnes Tobias ist er für viele im hiesigen Raum Vorfahre. Seine männlichen Nachkommen waren meist Pfarrer, aber auch Beamte. Für eine Zusammenstellung seiner Nachkommen suchen wir noch Hinweise. Wer hat Ergänzungen und stellt sie zur Verfügung? Bekannt sind alle Angaben aus der Hassia sacra und aus Bingenheim (Dank an Herrn Kötting), sowie die Angaben der FB Gießen, Leihgestern und Großen-Linden. Von der "Familien=Chronik Stockhausen, Nr. 1 bis 138" (Staatsarchiv Darmstadt, Nachlaß Stockhausen; Reg.-Nr. O 59) liegen bisher nur die ersten 17 Seiten von vmtl. 141 vor. Wir freuen uns über jede Hilfestellung. Herzliche Grüße, Hartmut (Tünn) Klein -- Hartmut 'Tünn' Klein Heide 31 35398 Gießen-Klein-Linden 0641/24602 thuenn@t-online.de Internet-Seiten: www.giessen-klein-linden.de www.lindehe.de www.tuenn.de
I suspect you have a misspelling. The closest my Gross Shell Atlas comes is a Burg-Grafenrode, which happens to be in Hesse. However, without knowing any more it will be impossible to narrow this down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Davey" <greatgrandson1998@yahoo.ca> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: [HESSE] Burgrafsmoth, Hessen > Burgrafsmoth, Hessen, was given as the former home of my g-g-grandparents Nicolaus and Wilhelmine HESS, on their ship's passenger list from Hamburg in 1858. I haven't been able to find this place on a map, and would like to know its location, to find church records. All suggestions and help appreciated. Albert Davey. > > > > --------------------------------- > Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Don't overlook the Hesse mailing list taglines at the > bottom of each list E-Mail you receive. Valuable infor- > mation is presented there! > >
Burgrafsmoth, Hessen, was given as the former home of my g-g-grandparents Nicolaus and Wilhelmine HESS, on their ship's passenger list from Hamburg in 1858. I haven't been able to find this place on a map, and would like to know its location, to find church records. All suggestions and help appreciated. Albert Davey. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Go to http://24.1911encyclopedia.org/H/HE/HESSE_DARMSTADT.htm to learn about Hesse Darmstadt ----- Original Message ----- From: <TheFamilySleuth@aol.com> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:45 PM Subject: [HESSE] BURG ancestors > Hi. I am new to the list and don't exactly know where to start. > > I am seeking to find the ancestors of my Conrad BURG (b. April 29, 1837) and > his brother, Gotthard H. BURG (b. 1848). I have no information yet on > Conrad's immigration to the U.S., but Gotthard came over aboard the ship, Weser, port > of embarkation Bremen, in 1867. It says on a U.S. census record that > Gotthard was from "Hesse-Darmstadt." Can anyone tell me what that means? Does that > mean the city of Darmstadt? > > Does anyone have any info on any BURG families in this time period in the > Hesse Darmstadt area? > > Also, it seems to me that Bremen is quite far from Hesse-Darmstadt. How > likely is it someone would make that journey? Couldn't they have boarded a ship > somewhere closer? Also, are there any emigration indexes (auswanderung) or > lists for the Hesse-Darmstadt area? > > Thanks for shedding some light on this subject for me. > > Rebecca Weigold > Newport, KY > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Many towns in Germany have the same name! Add the 5-digit > zip code in front of the name! Zip codes explained, > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm >
Hi. I am new to the list and don't exactly know where to start. I am seeking to find the ancestors of my Conrad BURG (b. April 29, 1837) and his brother, Gotthard H. BURG (b. 1848). I have no information yet on Conrad's immigration to the U.S., but Gotthard came over aboard the ship, Weser, port of embarkation Bremen, in 1867. It says on a U.S. census record that Gotthard was from "Hesse-Darmstadt." Can anyone tell me what that means? Does that mean the city of Darmstadt? Does anyone have any info on any BURG families in this time period in the Hesse Darmstadt area? Also, it seems to me that Bremen is quite far from Hesse-Darmstadt. How likely is it someone would make that journey? Couldn't they have boarded a ship somewhere closer? Also, are there any emigration indexes (auswanderung) or lists for the Hesse-Darmstadt area? Thanks for shedding some light on this subject for me. Rebecca Weigold Newport, KY