Hi, Please take a minute to look at my new web page. My grandmother, Friedericka "Mary" STANGE was born in Dissen, Hessen Kassel, Germany. There are over 1,000 names, mostly from Germany. Take a minute and look at the "Surname List" to see if any of your relatives are listed. The web page address is: http://fingado.ms11.net Sue Fingado-Hubbard

Hallo Listenteilnehmer, in der Hessische Familienkunde, Band 12 (1974/75), sind interessante Informationen über einen Hexenprozeß 1653 in Lieblos. Familien im Gericht Gründau - Spalte 450: (4) Quelle: Fürstlich Ysenburg-Büdingische Hausarchiv (zit. FYBHA-Büdingen), 63654 Büdingen, Schloß, Dämonologie, Fasc. 4, Nr. 36: Elisabeth LAUTENBACH bekennt, es sei " l. Wahr, das Else, Peter LAUTENBACHs Frau Zu Lieblos (das) schandliche Laster der Zauberey vor acht Jahren gelernet. 2. Wahr, alß Ihr Peter mit Hopffen nahe Giessen gangen, Sie ahn Hirtzberge (Herzberg) in Holtz gangen, sich sehr bekümmert, seye der böse feindte in gestalt Ihres Mans zu Ihre kommen. 3. Wahr, daß der böse Feindt Ihre das Holtz helffen zusahmen leßen. 4. Wahr, das sie dz holtz uf den Halß genommen und fortgangen. 5. Wahr, dz der böße feindt Ihr das Holtz wieder abgeworffen. 6. Wahr, das der Böße feindt darauf mit ihr unZucht getrieben und nach der Hand sieben mahl. 7. Wahr, das der böse Feindt Sie bey das Hirtzbörngen geführet, mit dem Kopff hineingestossen und ins Teuffels Nahmen getaufft. 8. Wahr, das er Ihr ein thaler, welcher hernach als sie heim kommen es Scherben gewesen, uff die Handt gebet. 9. Wahr, das sie Ihm an den gespaltenen Füßen erkant und vermerkt daß die betrogen. 10. Wahr, daß er gesagt, das Sie muß sein seyen. 11. Wahr, das Sie den Herrn Jesum Christ verleugnen müssen mit diessen Wortten: "Hie stehe Ich uff dieser Statt und verleugne mein Herrn Jesum Christ, und will nimmer Ihm sein." 12. Wahr, das er sich Hanß FedderPusch genant." Am Montag, den 20.06.1653 ward "Elsa, Peter LAUTENBACHs fraun von Lieblos gleichfalls vorgesondert und Ihre schwerer Sündenfall vorgehaltten und nachdem Jhr alle artickell (s. o.) vorgelesenn affirmabat omnes articulos will sie morgen vor dem Gericht öffentlich sagn (= bekennen), wil auch Darauf sterben." Am Tage darauf wurde sie hingerichtet. Familien im Gericht Gründau - Sp. 447: (Die Familie Faß, Anmerkung 2) FYBHA-Büdingen, Dämonologie, Fasc. 3, Nr. 36: Lieblos, 21.06.1653: "Unter dem Rathauß daselbst" als Hexen enthauptet: Hans SCHAFFERs fraw von Rodenbergen (Rothenbergen); Elß, Hans HOLBen fraw daselbst; Anna, Hans HELLFRICHs fraw zu Lieblos; Elß, Peter LAUTENBACHs fraw daselbst; Anna, Wilhelm REINß fraw daselbst; Anna, Michael HENRICHs fraw von Rodenbergen (Rothenbergen). Familien im Gericht Gründau - Sp. 448: LAUTENBACH 2. Peter, Sohn des Philipp LAUTENBACH, Gasthalter der 1613 gegr. "Neuen Herberge Zum Güldnen Hirsch", an der Reichsstraße bei Lieblos, 1658 Gerichts-Schöffe, * Kaltensundheim ..., + vor 1675; oo I. Elisabeth (Elß) N.N., * ...., + Lieblos 21.06.1653 (4) s. o.; oo II. 11.11.1654 LINDNER. LINDNER, Anna Margaretha, Tochter des Bürgers NikoI Lindner in Hanau-Neustadt, *...,+...; oo LAUTENBACH 2. MfG Andreas Meininger

I have found several records of interest to me in the HADIS data base. Can someone please explain how I should go about finding more about the records concearned and hopefully getting copies?. Are all of the records available through the Hesse Darmstadt State Archives or are they from a number of locations?. Brendon Scheib. Wellington. New Zealand. researching Scheib, 61209-Bingenheim Hesse Darmstadt

I have found and read the Butzbach Hessen LDS films that contain the B-M-D and confirmation records for my KUHL ancestors from the 17 and 1800s. Now I want to write to the evangelisch church (Lutheran Church) for additional information and visit the church on an upcoming trip to Germany. Perhaps in 1800 there was only one church that served the town and nearby area. However, I would imagine that in a town the size of Butzbach there are now many churches. How do I find out which church the LDS filmed and what their current address is? The FHL notes give the following: Evangelische Kirche Butzbach (Kr. Friedberg) The film itself said: Kirchenb"ucher der EKHN. Carolyn

Sorry, the message left before I was finished. Here is the entire message. > > Hi, Gerre > > I looked in Ancestry.com and found the following: > > 1) In Tohickon Union reformed Church records of > Bucks County, PA: > William Engert, bap. Jan. 27, 1773 > Father: Philip Engert Mother: Elizabeth Engert sponsor: Peter Deger sponsor: Catharine Deger Peter Engert, bap. Jan. 27, 1773 same parents and sponsors - must be twins? mother's maiden name may have been Deger? 2) "Immigration into PA, vol 1": which listed a Philip on ship Mortonhouse and listed the "from" place as - from Rotterdam but last from Deal. arrival date: Aug. 24,1728 If you find out where Deal is that might help get closer. 3) "Immigration in PA 1727-1776 - Names of Germans, Swiss, & other immigrants" had a Philip listed and ended the list of names with the following statement: "#7. Sept. 4, 1728. Thirty Palatines with their families, about 100 persons, imported in the ship Albany, Lazarus." Hope some of this helps. Dorene > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

Hi, Gerre I looked in Ancestry.com and found the following: 1) In Tohickon Union reformed Church records of Bucks County, PA: William Engert, bap. Jan. 27, 1773 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover

Time is passing very fast me now, and after many years of ENGARD research I so want to find the "village of origin" for Philip ENGERT/ENGARD/etc. who immigrated thru Philadelphia in 1728, arriving on the Ship Mortonhouse. Philip married Catharine Elizabeth ______, settled in Montgomery Co., PA and raised at least ten children to adulthood: Adam went to NJ; m: #1 (LEEDS) #2 ROGERS, Henry m: ATKINS, Jacob m: Dorothy ______, John m: Anna Maria ______, Peter m: Isabella _______, Philip m: Katie MOSSER/MOSLER and/or Elizabeth _______, & William m: Elizabeth _______, Elizabeth m: John BECKER, Anna Margaret m: Jacob KULP/CUPP, & Mary m: Conrad EMICH. We have so many clues & connections leading us back to Rossdorf near Darmstadt. So far, the bible records we've had access to have not revealed our Philip. The following family is closely connected in America: REGARD TO RODEMICH IN UPPER DUBLIN TOWNSHIP PA. ADAM RODEMICH WAS MARRIED TO ELISABETHA MARGARETHA ENGERT BORN IN ROSSDORF HESSEN 4 AUG 1800. HER PARENTS ARE JOHANN NICOLAUS ENGERT AND EVA MARGARETHA VORNOFF. JOHANN NICOLAUS ENGERT WAS BORN 30 MAY 1772 IN ROSSDORF HESSEN. HIS PARENTS ARE JOHANN CHRISTOPH ENGERT AND ANNA BARBARA EMICH. JOHANN CHRISTOPHER ENGERT WAS BORN 11 JUN 1744. HIS PARENTS WAS JOHANN MARTIN ENGERT AND ANNA CATHARINA. JOHANN MARTIN WAS BORN 20 MAY 1704 IN ROSSDORF HESSEN. ADAM AND ELISABETHA FOLLOWED A CONRAD EMICH TO PENNSYLVANIA TO BE A PART OF THE CHURCH AT OLD PUFFS. Please, if anyone on the Hesse list has any ideas for me. I can send some old bible records that have been transcribed and placed in my "notes" for ENGERTS in Rossdorf. Just request. Gerre Engard Byrd

Hello Listers, can someone tell I some information on the book "Standard Book on Preachers and Parishes of Diehl" (Standardbuch über Pfarrer und Pfarreien von Diehl)? Thank you, Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA

Hello! I'm new to the list. My Hesse-Darmstadt connection is one George Karl Spiesz, born November 13th, 1820 (according to his own writing) in Höhen-sulzen. I do not know his parents names. I know he had the following siblings though: Phillip, Ana Maria, Barbara. I have the death date for Phillip I can dig up if anyone thinks this information looks familiar. George Karl and Barbara boarded the "Virginia" in Le Havre for America. Barbara died at sea and was buried at sea. George arrived in New York City on June 11th, 1846 and then travelled to Cincinnati, Ohio which is where he settled. George left a little bit of informaton, and for that I'm thankful. He didn't include Ana Maria's married name though and we know from his writing that she lived very near to Wörms, in a town that starts with Pfiff. He also tells his mothers death date, but neglects to mention her name. She died at Ana Maria's. A father is never mentioned, so one could assume that he had died before George left for the states in 1846. He also does not tell the relative ages of his siblings - he never says he is younger than, or older than. The one last clue I do have is that they were a Protestant family. When I'm done looking through the microfilm on another ancestor, I will attempt to order the microfilm for Hohen-sulzen. But, if anybody else out there has Spiesz ancestors from Hesse-Darmstadt, please let me know. Thanks! LeeAnn McNabb

I think this is the Hesse URL you are thinking of: http://members.cox.net/hessen/ or http://go.to/hessen . either should get you there. Marion Schmitz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Eberling" <bze@apexmail.com> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Hesse Web Site > Do you mean the GenWeb Hessen site? > > It's at http://members.cox.net/hessen/index2.htm > > > Regards, > Brian Eberling > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gini and Don <ginidon@comcast.net> > To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:51:29 -0400 > Subject: [HESSE] Hesse Web Site > > > < I have lost the URL for the Hesse Web Site, Please help. Don > < > < > < ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > < Postal Codes, How to Pay for Research, German Language > < Letters, Archive Addresses, German Telephone directory, > < http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm > > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html > to unsubscribe >

Do you mean the GenWeb Hessen site? It's at http://members.cox.net/hessen/index2.htm Regards, Brian Eberling ----- Original Message ----- From: Gini and Don <ginidon@comcast.net> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 3 May 2004 11:51:29 -0400 Subject: [HESSE] Hesse Web Site < I have lost the URL for the Hesse Web Site, Please help. Don < < < ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== < Postal Codes, How to Pay for Research, German Language < Letters, Archive Addresses, German Telephone directory, < http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm

I have lost the URL for the Hesse Web Site, Please help. Don

Hi, Brian, This chart: http://immigrants.byu.edu/english/volunteer/german_alphabet_image.html was a big help to me in doing the same as you are attempting to do. It helped me with the old typefont so I could recognize the letters and then transcribe text into online translation engines. I use two online translators and an in-hand German-English dictionary to arrive at meaning; clunky, but it more or less works: http://www.systransoft.com/index.html http://www.freetranslation.com/ Don't despair; the more you do it, the easier it gets. Michelle Stone "German Immigrant Ancestors in Syracuse & Onondaga Co., NY" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mstone/ Researching Demare/Demaree of Oberhauserhof near Burgschwalbach, Nassau Brian Eberling wrote: > Hello All, > > I've got some clipping that are supposed to be from the Dillenburg Weekly Paper from a book by Ursula Hatzfeld entitled Von Dillenburg nach Texas; Die Auswanderung im Amt Dillenburg von 1845 bis 1846. I've tried running these through BabelFish, but think my lack of success my be due to the typeface that the newspaper used. Can anyone take a look at these for me or point me in a direction for translating them? > > They can be viewed at... > http://www.brianeberling.com/KarlEberling_DillenburgPape.gif > > > Thanks in advance, > Brian Eberling > Crystal, MN, USA > Researching the Eberling family from Dillenburg, Hesse-Kassel > > > > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html > to unsubscribe > >

Thank you very much for your help Hans. Regards, Brian Eberling ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Hartmut Schuessler <hans.schuessler@main-rheiner.de> To: "Brian Eberling " <bze@apexmail.com> Sent: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:31:57 +0200 Subject: AW: [HESSE] Translation help < Good evening Brian, < the in < > standing remarks are made by me. < < (260) <number of the offert> Dillenburg Monday the 2nd Juni <1845> < afternoon < 2 o clock, shall the by Carl Eberling owned Buildings and goods, worth < 1210 < fl <Gulden> in the town hall here on his own will on highest bidding put < up < for auction. < Dillenburg, the 29th May 1845. < count of Nassau county mainmayor. < Thomae < < With Carl Eberling 175 fl are to be hired against judical grant. < < One Morgen <acre> arable land planted with potatoes is to be let at Carl < Eberling <potatoes are growing there> < Karl Eberling < < One bass-violin and one clarinet at the undersigned to be sold. < Karl Eberling < < < Please not tha in this 4 advertenties the name of EBERLING is two times < Carl < and two times Karl. < Perhaps there are two persons Carl Eberling and Karl Eberling. < It is as well possible that all 4 are the same person. < < < best wishes < Hans Hartmut Schuessler < Familiengeschichtsforscher (hobbyresearcher) < Familienarchive Schuessler und Veerhoff < Familienarchive Staehler und Wurmbach < Sudetenstrasse 22 65239 Hochheim am Main < hans.schuessler@main-rheiner.de < 06146-4183 0172-8032648 < <

Thanks Michelle, That chart will definately come in handy. Regards, Brian Eberling < Hi, Brian, < < This chart: < < http://immigrants.byu.edu/english/volunteer/german_alphabet_image.html < < was a big help to me in doing the same as you are attempting to do. It < helped me with the old typefont so I could recognize the letters and < then transcribe text into online translation engines. I use two online < translators and an in-hand German-English dictionary to arrive at < meaning; clunky, but it more or less works: < < http://www.systransoft.com/index.html < < http://www.freetranslation.com/ < < Don't despair; the more you do it, the easier it gets. < < Michelle Stone < < "German Immigrant Ancestors in Syracuse & Onondaga Co., NY" < http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mstone/ < < Researching Demare/Demaree of Oberhauserhof near Burgschwalbach, Nassau < < < < Brian Eberling wrote: < < > Hello All, < > < > I've got some clipping that are supposed to be from the Dillenburg < Weekly Paper from a book by Ursula Hatzfeld entitled Von Dillenburg nach < Texas; Die Auswanderung im Amt Dillenburg von 1845 bis 1846. I've tried < running these through BabelFish, but think my lack of success my be due < to the typeface that the newspaper used. Can anyone take a look at these < for me or point me in a direction for translating them? < > < > They can be viewed at... < > http://www.brianeberling.com/KarlEberling_DillenburgPape.gif < > < > < > Thanks in advance, < > Brian Eberling < > Crystal, MN, USA < > Researching the Eberling family from Dillenburg, Hesse-Kassel < > < > < > < > < > < > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== < > Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to < > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html < > to unsubscribe < > < > < < < ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== < Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to < http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html < to unsubscribe

Hello All, I've got some clipping that are supposed to be from the Dillenburg Weekly Paper from a book by Ursula Hatzfeld entitled Von Dillenburg nach Texas; Die Auswanderung im Amt Dillenburg von 1845 bis 1846. I've tried running these through BabelFish, but think my lack of success my be due to the typeface that the newspaper used. Can anyone take a look at these for me or point me in a direction for translating them? They can be viewed at... http://www.brianeberling.com/KarlEberling_DillenburgPape.gif Thanks in advance, Brian Eberling Crystal, MN, USA Researching the Eberling family from Dillenburg, Hesse-Kassel

Just a slight misspelling. Should be Giebelrain, a part of Dietershausen. Heinz

I am looking for the village of Giebelrein in Hesse. This name is recorded in church records in the archives of the Diocese of Fulda in the time period of the early 1700's. Other villages listed in these records include Friesenhausen, Dieterhausen and Margrethenhaun. These villages are about 10 miles east of Fulda and so my guess is that Giebelrein is in this area. I have done a mapquest search and a Google search with no results. My guess is a misspelling or a misreading. Or maybe this village was absorbed into another village and no longer exists. Thanks for any help. Researching SIMON,BLUM,DEHLER,SAUER,STORCH,OCHS Bob Tichey

Bob, I have Margerat Blum from the Fulda area. She died (1845) in Sandlofs which is west of Fulda. There are several Blum's in that area. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ginni Morey from Campbell CA Santa Clara County Historical & Genealogical Society Web Master: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascchgs/> http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascchgs/ Personal Home page: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinwald> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reinwald <mailto:GLMorey@earthlink.net> Mailto:GLMorey@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Ticnik@aol.com [ <mailto:Ticnik@aol.com> mailto:Ticnik@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 3:45 PM To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HESSE] Village of Giebelrein in Hesse I am looking for the village of Giebelrein in Hesse. This name is recorded in church records in the archives of the Diocese of Fulda in the time period of the early 1700's. Other villages listed in these records include Friesenhausen, Dieterhausen and Margrethenhaun. These villages are about 10 miles east of Fulda and so my guess is that Giebelrein is in this area. I have done a mapquest search and a Google search with no results. My guess is a misspelling or a misreading. Or maybe this village was absorbed into another village and no longer exists. Thanks for any help. Researching SIMON,BLUM,DEHLER,SAUER,STORCH,OCHS Bob Tichey ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== Looking for old messages? <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html Search or Browse

I put my first installment of my Brensbach research on WorldConnect last night. Its called Brensbach-bbh and its up now. Mostly I looked at marriage and birth records from about 1808-1870 and extracted all the info that I found for these names: Buechler, Blumensheim, Hartmann, Lautenschlaeger, Kaffenberger, Kriechbaum, Maser, Roeder, Rettig, Reinheimer, Steinmetz, Schwoebel, Vetter. All of these names except Blumensheim and Maser are connected to my great-grandfather's Bixler family in the Gross Bieberau area. Looks like I found the Steinmetz and Buechler families of two of the spouses of my great-grandfather's siblings. The other two names are ones in the ancestry of some of my cousins who are researching in the same area. I originally ordered these films because I was curious if my Bixlers aka Buexler & Bueschler were related to the Buechlers in Brensbach but before the films came in I found out that my Buexlers were from the Pirmasens area in Alsace. Warning: I used the indexes to these records and the indexes were not legible all the way through, so I may have missed people. Also, my German handwriting reading skills are getting better but far from expert. Beverly Howard Austin, TX