In a message dated 6/14/04 1:01:18 AM Central Daylight Time, HESSE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I have an article about Hesse Darmstadt in the period after the Napoleonic > Wars, that > gives a detailed description of each of these provinces and contains a map > illustrating > their location. I will be glad to send it as a zip file upon request I am interested in reading this article, too. Thanks, David, for your offer. Lois Mack Schill LMS29@aol.com

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There has been a lot of interest in my article and map. A very good source of accurate historical maps will be found at the website below. http://www.ieg-maps.uni-mainz.de/enter.htm The site is in German, however, very basic German and not hard to follow. If you click on the link under the map displayed it will open up a larger image. The adobe acrobat icon will download a map in that format. All the images can be downloaded to your computer. I recommend printing them on card stock with a color printer, they are quite nice that way. The site is maintained by the University of Mainz and new maps are added periodically. If you cannot find exactly what you are looking for keep going back. I recommend to all that you bookmark the site and pass this information on to whatever other newsgroups you belong to. David Rorer

Please include me in the emailing of the article. _jgarylaine@aol.com_ (mailto:jgarylaine@aol.com) Thanks, Gary Laine

> Is there a way I could contact the nice lady named Reibold that > studies family history in Oberlangsfeld, Hessen? > > My ancestor is Anton Reibold, born about 1800 in Darmstadt, Hessen. > His wife is Susanna Stuber. I descended from their son, Martin, > married to Rachael Langenfeld--birth place, New York, Germany, > Hessen, France?--choose your census report! > > Thank you. Maybe she knows all about Anton. > Dianne > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Good evening Dianne, seams to me you mean the place Oberlengsfeld, now 36277 Schenklengsfeld and the name RIEBOLD, maybe americanized to Reibold? You get the addresses of some RIEBOLD families living at that place at online phonebook http://tinyurl.com/34yf4 , maybe it's Hilde Riebold? Also in Foko there is an address for a person having/searching RIEBOLD in Oberlengsfeld as seen at http://foko.genealogy.net . RIEBOLD in Oberlengsfeld is also shown at World connect: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=delancey23&id=I0899 Greetings, Ralf

David, I would also like to have that zipper. My Schroth side came from the southern border region of Hesse D. Many thanks in advance! Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Schroy To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Re: HESSE-D Digest V04 #130 David, Would you be so kind as to send it ot me also. Thanks, Barb DickandGerri@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/12/04 2:01:29 PM, HESSE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I have an article about Hesse Darmstadt in the period after the Napoleonic Wars, that gives a detailed description of each of these provinces and contains a map illustrating their location. I will be glad to send it as a zip file upon request. >> David, would you please send me the article mentioned above. Thank you very much for your generousity. Sincerely, Gerri ... Geraldine Happel Graham San Antonio, TEXAS A tree will whither if no one tends to the roots... Family History http://members.aol.com/dickandgerri/ ............................................................................... .......................... Deutschland: Armand Batteux Berkel Bick Bollfrass Boudemont Brensing Brill Bruchhaeuser Combe Eckart Engel Ernst Fichtenmayer Feld Gleisener Happel Henkel Hesse Ibelshaeuser Leiberg Levenz Lueckel Mayer Muecher Moeller Mueller Nalek Neff Scherer Schoeneweis Sold Staeckling Stahl Stremme ............................................................................... .......................... ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html to unsubscribe --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== Don't overlook the Hesse mailing list taglines at the bottom of each list E-Mail you receive. Valuable infor- mation is presented there!

I would also like to have that file sent. Thank you. Barbara Gessner

Hello, I have recently connected my husband to Rev. Johann Casper Stoever Jr., a very predominate German Lutheran minister in Pennsylvania in the 1700's. He was born Dec. 21, 1707, Ludorf, Solingen Amt., Germany, and came to the United States in 1728 with his father, Johann Casper Stoever Sr., born Jan. 13, 1684, Frankenburg, Hesse-Nassau, Germany. Family tradition implies that these men are direct descendants of Martin Luther. There are 2 maternal lines that claim this. 1. Johann Stoever, born early 1600 and married Miss Casper in Germany. Miss Casper claimed to be a direct descendant of Martin Luther. 2. Deitrich Stoever, born c.1660, married Magdalena Eberwein, born Feb. 21, 1657, Frankenburg, Hesse-Nassau, Germany. They wed c.1682 Frankenburg, Hesse-Nassau, Germany. Magdalena also claims to be a direct descendant of Martin Luther. Her parents are Andreas Eberwein and Christiana Riese. 3. Johann Casper Stoever Sr. 4. Johann Casper Stoever Jr. Is anyone familiar with these families? Does anyone know if there is any validity to their claims of being direct descendants to Martin Luther? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Pamela J. Adams __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Or "Liebarherzoft"? or "Lieberherhoss"...? A woman who came from there was married to a man from Daisbach (in the vicinity of Burgschwalbach, Langenschwalbach, Allendorf, etc. in Nassau) in 1803, and I can't determine what the town was then or is now. Anybody recognize this place? Thanks, Michelle Stone

David, Would you be so kind as to send it ot me also. Thanks, Barb DickandGerri@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/12/04 2:01:29 PM, HESSE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I have an article about Hesse Darmstadt in the period after the Napoleonic Wars, that gives a detailed description of each of these provinces and contains a map illustrating their location. I will be glad to send it as a zip file upon request. >> David, would you please send me the article mentioned above. Thank you very much for your generousity. Sincerely, Gerri ... Geraldine Happel Graham San Antonio, TEXAS A tree will whither if no one tends to the roots... Family History http://members.aol.com/dickandgerri/ ............................................................................... .......................... Deutschland: Armand Batteux Berkel Bick Bollfrass Boudemont Brensing Brill Bruchhaeuser Combe Eckart Engel Ernst Fichtenmayer Feld Gleisener Happel Henkel Hesse Ibelshaeuser Leiberg Levenz Lueckel Mayer Muecher Moeller Mueller Nalek Neff Scherer Schoeneweis Sold Staeckling Stahl Stremme ............................................................................... .......................... ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== Going on Vacation? Longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html to unsubscribe --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger

David, Please send to me as well. Thanks, Tami Researching: JOHNSTON/HOFFMANN/WEISHEIMER/KEISEL/DOCLAR/ZWEIFEL/ HOERNER/HUCKINS

In a message dated 6/12/04 2:01:29 PM, HESSE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I have an article about Hesse Darmstadt in the period after the Napoleonic Wars, that gives a detailed description of each of these provinces and contains a map illustrating their location. I will be glad to send it as a zip file upon request. >> David, would you please send me the article mentioned above. Thank you very much for your generousity. Sincerely, Gerri ... Geraldine Happel Graham San Antonio, TEXAS A tree will whither if no one tends to the roots... Family History http://members.aol.com/dickandgerri/ .............................................................................. ......................... Deutschland: Armand Batteux Berkel Bick Bollfrass Boudemont Brensing Brill Bruchhaeuser Combe Eckart Engel Ernst Fichtenmayer Feld Gleisener Happel Henkel Hesse Ibelshaeuser Leiberg Levenz Lueckel Mayer Muecher Moeller Mueller Nalek Neff Scherer Schoeneweis Sold Staeckling Stahl Stremme .............................................................................. .........................

I did a quick search on the Telefonbuch site - www.telefonbuch.de and got a list of about 400 individuals with that name but didn't see the Oberlangsfeld listed for those that I found. Spending some time there might help the person narrow down the address? Rod Fleck Forks, WA -----Original Message----- From: SLC [mailto:slc33@texas.net] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 7:45 PM To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HESSE] The nice lady in Oberlangsfeld Hessen Hi I have no idea of how to contact this woman unless you were to address a letter to her care of the village Oberlangsfeld Hessen Germany ? [Someone on the list might know how to properly address this letter to Germany] Since there are around 400 people that live there the postman should know the right Mrs. Reibold that is writting a book and studies family history in the village.... I sent a letter to the Parish Priest of Mylerstown Co Kildare Ireland last year and he received it,sent it on to Allen Parish in Nass that held the church records and they sent me lots of family parish records so it works. I did enclosed 3 US dollars for postage back to me... You can try it and see what happens...you have nothing to lose cept maybe the postage money back... SLC Dianne Erickson wrote: > > TO: SLC > > Is there a way I could contact the nice lady named Reibold that studies family history in Oberlangsfeld, Hessen? > > My ancestor is Anton Reibold, born about 1800 in Darmstadt, Hessen. His wife is Susanna Stuber. I descended from their son, Martin, married to Rachael Langenfeld--birth place, New York, Germany, Hessen, France?--choose your census report! > > Thank you. Maybe she knows all about Anton. > > Dianne > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Many towns in Germany have the same name! Add the 5-digit > zip code in front of the name! Zip codes explained, > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm -- No attachments with this message unless stated by the sender. ______________________________

Hi Jim, I am replying thru Hesse-L as e-mail to U directly 'Bounced' This is conjecture on my part at this point- taken off the LDS website - we are currently working backwards with German Lutheran Church records to establish Lineage !! We have established a Link to Johannes Steffen B:1681- Parents & Grandparents OF Johannes are our "Best Guess" for now ! Any Info U may have access to would most appreciated !! What does the Book show for this Nikolaus Steffen ?? Thx Geno From: JWR184@aol.com To: genofifty@hotmail.com Subject: STEFFEN- HESSEN Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:08:23 EDT Hi Gene, I have a copy of the "Sippenbuch Heppenheim a d Bergstrasse, Vol I, 1517-1668." And Vol II. Nikolaus STEFFEN is in it. What is your source? This book shows different info. Jim Rettig Heppenheim>Cincinnati ***************************

Hi I have no idea of how to contact this woman unless you were to address a letter to her care of the village Oberlangsfeld Hessen Germany ? [Someone on the list might know how to properly address this letter to Germany] Since there are around 400 people that live there the postman should know the right Mrs. Reibold that is writting a book and studies family history in the village.... I sent a letter to the Parish Priest of Mylerstown Co Kildare Ireland last year and he received it,sent it on to Allen Parish in Nass that held the church records and they sent me lots of family parish records so it works. I did enclosed 3 US dollars for postage back to me... You can try it and see what happens...you have nothing to lose cept maybe the postage money back... SLC Dianne Erickson wrote: > > TO: SLC > > Is there a way I could contact the nice lady named Reibold that studies family history in Oberlangsfeld, Hessen? > > My ancestor is Anton Reibold, born about 1800 in Darmstadt, Hessen. His wife is Susanna Stuber. I descended from their son, Martin, married to Rachael Langenfeld--birth place, New York, Germany, Hessen, France?--choose your census report! > > Thank you. Maybe she knows all about Anton. > > Dianne > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Many towns in Germany have the same name! Add the 5-digit > zip code in front of the name! Zip codes explained, > http://members.cox.net/hessen/table.htm -- No attachments with this message unless stated by the sender.

TO: SLC Is there a way I could contact the nice lady named Reibold that studies family history in Oberlangsfeld, Hessen? My ancestor is Anton Reibold, born about 1800 in Darmstadt, Hessen. His wife is Susanna Stuber. I descended from their son, Martin, married to Rachael Langenfeld--birth place, New York, Germany, Hessen, France?--choose your census report! Thank you. Maybe she knows all about Anton. Dianne

This is my Family Line from Hessen Does anyone Know How to Access departure records for Immigrants to the USA- 1840'S ?? Nikolaus Steffen Birth: About 1590 Death: 14 JUL 1669 Heppenheim, Bergstrasse, Starkenburg, Hessen Marriages: Before 1624 Heppenheim, Bergstrasse, Starkenburg, Hessen Spouse: Gertrud Family I I Johann Bartholomäus Steffen-1624 Heppenheim, Bergstrasse, Starkenburg, Hessen Christening: Death: 14 DEC 1695 Lampertheim, Starkenburg, Hessen Spouse: Elisabeth Bröder Children: Johan George-1679 JOHANN PHILLIP -1681 I Anna Catherina-1683 I Sebastian Stephan-1685 I Anna Margaretha- 1686 I Elisabetha Stephan- 1689 \ M: Anna Catharina Treiber -1705 Children: Johannes Stephan b:1704- Uncertain on this one ? Anna Catharina b:1706: M: Johannes Schlappner 1736 Johann Adam b:1708 D:1714 JOHANN ADAM b:1709 ?? I Anna Maria b:1712 I Niclas Stephan b:1713 I Adam Stephan b:1714 I Johann Peter b:1718 d:1776 I \ M: Anna Catharina -1727 I Peter Stephan b:1728- d:1773 I \ M: Elisabetha (Unknown) Children: Adam Stephan b:1739 Peter Stephan b:1748 I \ M: Anna Margretha Grieshhiemer 1773,Oct 25 Children: Adam Steffan b:1775 Catharina Steffan b:1776 Othilia Steffan b:1780 Peter Steffan b:1782 Johann Goerg b:1787 I Johannes Steffan b:1791 I \ M: Anna Maria Schmidt- 1811 Children: I Adam Steffen B:1813 Immigrated to USA- 1842-1847

Starkenburg is not a town, it is a region. Hesse-Darmstadt had three provinces; Oberhessen, north of the Main River. Rhinehessen west of the Rhine River and Starkenburg, east of the Rhine and south of the Main including the capital of Darmstadt. This link will help you with Hesse-Darmstadt http://24.1911encyclopedia.org/H/HE/HESSE_DARMSTADT.htm Note: there was no Sarkenburg in Hesse-Kassel! I have an article about Hesse Darmstadt in the period after the Napoleonic Wars, that gives a detailed description of each of these provinces and contains a map illustrating their location. I will be glad to send it as a zip file upon request. David Rorer ----- Original Message ----- From: <Zacbubba@aol.com> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:53 AM Subject: [HESSE] Hessen > I have tried to locate Philip Huebner born in 1823 on IGI through Family > Search . While I can't find him there seems to be a lot of Huebner's in > Starkenburg, Hesse. I can't seem to locate this town on the map. My father used to > say that Philip came from Hessen-Kassel area. Any help greatly appreciated. > Richard J. Huebner Youngstown, Ohio USA > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Don't overlook the Hesse mailing list taglines at the > bottom of each list E-Mail you receive. Valuable infor- > mation is presented there! > >

Not quite sure what your question is referring to. The dialect? If yes, you have to know that the language you call "solid German" only exists a few hundred years and was artificially created for writing purposes. Even today, most of the Germans speak their old dialect in day-to-day life and it is in most cases far away from the so called "Hochdeutsch". I assume, that your "Oberlangsfeld" (not sure that you got the name correctly) is somewhere in North Hesse. The village people there have their own dialect which is to a certain extent related to my own South Hesse dialect, but which is difficult to understand even for me, having grown up just about 100 miles apart. In other words: Germany is a country with many different dialects, where there is one artificially created language called "Hochdeutsch", which people use to have a common language basis. But still, many people in rural areas have difficulties with this language. Heinz

Hi, friends, I wanted to share a very interesting German index with you that is new to me: International Genealogical Index (IGI) entries (at Familysearch.org) sorted by German Town Names (Batch Numbers) - http://igi.wahler.org/ Click on the British flag and it takes you to a version of the index with enough English to get you around. This index will link you to IGI Batch number entries by town, which is eye-opening if you are researching several families in a known German location. Cheers, Michelle Stone "German Immigrant Ancestors in Syracuse & Onondaga County, New York" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mstone/