I have been searching for the Fürth Evangelical Records at the LDS. In their search by location, it gives Fürth, Hesse Darmstadt. Open it up and it provides a selection of both Evangelical and Catholic Records. I have been trough the St. Johann der Taufer Catholic Church records and they are fairly complete back to the 1660s. I have checked out four Evangelical Church tapes from the earliest times and they are all from Hammelbach, Bensheim, and Rimbach, principally. Fürth is listed as only the origin of a few of families. The majority are from Lörzenbach, Mörlenbach, and Rimbach. The evangelical church existed from at least the early 1700s and there should be records from that period. I am looking for the records from 1760 to 1820. Has anyone seen these or know where they are located and can be seen. -- Jay E. Frank

Hi Listers, I have been many months looking for a picture of the sailing ship "CESAR GODEFFROY" which brought my German ancestors to Australia in 1856. The Cesar Godeffroy was built and owned by J.C.Godeffroy und Sohn of Hamburg. It was built in 1855 the second of three vessels of this name owned by that company. I have found two books that may have a picture in them but neither are held at the State Library of Victoria. These are as follows:- * "J.C.Godeffroy und Sohn", Kaufleute zu Hamburg, Leistung und Schicksal eines Welthandelshauses-Hamburg 1938, Kurt Schmack * Das Hamburger Seehandelshaus J.C.Godeffroy und Sohn 1677-1879-Hamburg 1922, Richard Hertz If some kind soul could tell me whether there is a picture of the Cesar Godeffroy in either of these books and point me to the publisher so that I can request a copy I would be most appreciative. Cheers Peter STRAUSS Melbourne Australia

I was going through materials associated with my Frederick Bode line http://www.gencircles.com/users/rodfleck/2/data/547 and noticed that while I copied the Germans to America page for his passage, I didn’t write down the village code or have since lost that page. The code is listed as GRH60 – and I suspect that it translates as Hessen-Kassel, but I am just trying to see if there is a clue in my materials that I have overlooked. Thanks in advance Rod Fleck Forks, WA

Thanks, Ed http://members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Schilling.html

Ahnentafel = Ancestor table. Every direct ancestor. Parent, Grand parent, gr grandparent etc.---Bob On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:57:27 EDT Trains75buff@aol.com writes: > > Thank you to all that answered my request on the symbols. > What is the meaning of Ahnentafel and Familenbogen? > Alan Rossing > > > ==== HESSE Mailing List ==== > Don't overlook the Hesse mailing list taglines at the > bottom of each list E-Mail you receive. Valuable infor- > mation is presented there! > > >

Thanks, Ed Hessian Grenadier http://members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Schilling.html

Thank you to all that answered my request on the symbols. What is the meaning of Ahnentafel and Familenbogen? Alan Rossing

Hello Listers, I have received 4 pages titled Ahnentafel (1) and Familenbogen (3). Ahnentafel looks as family tree. Some characters as *, looks as a sword, double O, double ~ and a rectangle. Numbers like <7089> and <<2704>> Can someone tell me what is have? Thank you, Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA

Thanks Ed Hessian Grenadier at: http://members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Schilling.html

a) "ch" is not sounding like a "k" in German b) his name was most likely just Mechlenburg and he was one of the many "illegitimates", which have existed. In this case, the similarity of the names might have been the reason for an unjustified claim. Heinz Kathleen Brice, SSND schrieb: >My ancestor spelled his last name Mechlenburg, many times it is spelled Mecklenburg. Besides the "ch" sounding like a "k", is their a reason for the different spellings. The story is that my ancestor was an illegitimate son of a Duke. Could this be a reason. I have searched to find a reason but have found nothing. Any help would be appreciated. Kathleen > > >==== HESSE Mailing List ==== >Looking for old messages? >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/HESSE.html >Search or Browse > > > > >

Thanks! I'll leave the translation to others next time. I do have a German Dictionary.

translation: auf dem Molkenborn Thanks, Ed http://members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Schilling.html

My ancestor spelled his last name Mechlenburg, many times it is spelled Mecklenburg. Besides the "ch" sounding like a "k", is their a reason for the different spellings. The story is that my ancestor was an illegitimate son of a Duke. Could this be a reason. I have searched to find a reason but have found nothing. Any help would be appreciated. Kathleen

> Subject: Died Aue in Kindbett 1664? > From: Ed Maul <edmaul@optonline.net> > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:19:22 -0400 > To: HESSE-L@rootsweb.com > Aue is a place but what does the rest mean? > Thanks, > Ed Kindbett literally refers to a child's bed. It means "died in infancy." I've read all the church records for Aue/Wingeshausen, Kreis Wittgenstein. If I can help, let me know. -- Dr. Ned H. Benson St. John's Presbyterian Church 1070 West Plumb Lane Reno, Nevada 89509 http://www.stjohnschurch.org

Kindbett - in confinement

Vaterreich - Fatherland Ueten - State

Aue is a place but what does the rest mean? Thanks, Ed

In a message dated 9/17/2004 11:00:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, HESSE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I can find my ancestor in the 1860 census, but no earlier. He and all of his descendants carry the spelling Truttier. In the 1860 census he states he is 40 years old and was born in Hesse. While I am aware I need to do more research on this gentleman, I did the usual familysearch.org test (to see if there was a specific locality records were coming from) and not ONE Truttier comes up in Germany (in any state). Hi LeeAnn: If you don't have any luck finding him on the 1850 census (and are sure he was in America in 1850) try looking up some of his 1860 neighbors on the 1850 census. If his name was misspelled, and if the neighbors didn't move between 1850-1860, you might be able to find him that way. Paul C. Miller

Hi All Is anyone able to check the birth records for children of Johann Andreas Grahl (2nd marriage) and Margarethe Schroder from 1837 to when Conrad Emil Grahl was born 1843 (b: March 30, 1843 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany) and beyond if possible. I understand that Conrad was their 3rd child. I am hoping that one of his siblings is a Fritz or Frederick GRAHL. Kindest regards Dave Grahl (Derby, UK) Descendants of Johann Andreas Grahl 1 Johann Andreas Grahl b: October 20, 1788 in Oberneustadt, Deutsche Gemeinde (Kassel, Hesse?) .. +Regina Dorothea Friederike Just b: November 6, 1787 in Frankfurt am Main, Hesse . 2 Christian Ferdinand Grahl b: September 9, 1814 in Frankfurt Am Main, Hessen-Nassau, Preussen . 2 Eucharius Benedikt Grahl b: September 9, 1814 in Frankfurt Am Main, Hessen-Nassau, Preussen ..... +Eva Margarethe Preiss b: May 17, 1813 in Brunnthal bei Vielbrunn, Grand Dutchy of Hesse ..... 3 Johann Konrad Ferdinand Grahl b: March 11, 1846 in 75 Allerheiligengasse, Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany ..... 3 Margarethe Luisa Grahl b: July 10, 1847 in Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany ..... 3 Georg Heinrich Grahl b: April 10, 1849 in 92 Vogelgesanggasse, Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany ......... +Catharine Kieran b: April 4, 1854 in Liverpool, England ( or Kells Co Meath? Ireland) ..... 3 Wilhelmine Regine b: December 14, 1854 in Frankfurt Am Main, Hessen-Nassau, Preussen . 2 Johann Georg Grahl b: Abt. 1816 in Frankfurt am Main, Hessen, Germany . 2 Auguste Caroline Catharine Grahl b: April 27, 1822 in Frankfurt Am Main, Hessen-Nassau, Preussen *2nd Wife of Johann Andreas Grahl: .. +Margarethe Schroder . 2 Conrad Emil Grahl b: March 30, 1843 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany ..... +Fannie Maria b: Abt. 1848 ..... 3 Wilhelmina Emma GRAHL b: Abt. 1870 ..... 3 Gertrude Fannie Grahl b: Abt. 1875 in Leeds? ......... +George Henderson Thompson . *2nd Wife of Conrad Emil Grahl: ..... +Berlinah Susannah Croysdale

Hello everyone! I hope everyone is well. I am currently researching a line on my father's side that has me stumped. I can find my ancestor in the 1860 census, but no earlier. He and all of his descendants carry the spelling Truttier. In the 1860 census he states he is 40 years old and was born in Hesse. While I am aware I need to do more research on this gentleman, I did the usual familysearch.org test (to see if there was a specific locality records were coming from) and not ONE Truttier comes up in Germany (in any state). I thought maybe they just misunderstood him (the census taker that is) as the last name appears French. But in the 1880 census clearly written his place of origin is listed as Germany. I tried Trotter, Trutter, and Trottier and most hits are for Bavaria and Baden. I found a couple of Trotier's in Westfalen, though still most were in Baden and Bavaria. So I was just curious if anyone with a knowledge of German could imagine other spellings of this surname that when pronounced by a German could produce census takers adopting this spelling. I've taken German, but it's been a while, so I might not be thinking of something. Thanks for your time and consideration. LeeAnn McNabb