Hi Being new to tracing ancestors out of the UK, I have got stuck on my Gt Gt Grandparents who where born in Germany and came to Britain some time between 1841 and 1864, I would be grateful for any directions of finding out prior to them coming to the UK or how they came, I only know the details below Ludwig Busmer married Katharina Woerner 27 March 1864 St Martin in the Fields, Westminster London (baker) 1881 UK Census : Louis Busmer - Head of Household - Male- aged 41- Birthplace Germany - Occ Baker Katharine Busmer Wife Female Age 36 - Birthplace Germany - Many thanks inadvance Pam

Andrea, I'll give it a try Diether, Hessen, Germany > From: Andrea Welter [mailto:aylayla@mac.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:19 AM > > Months ago I received a certificate of death of one of my ancestors. I > cannot figure out what the spellings of the mothers maiden name is. > Mary ?????? If anyone wants to take a stab at it I can email you a jpg > of the document. The handwriting is not sloppy so maybe I'm just not > seeing it. Perhaps someone more familiar w/German surnames will get it. > > Andrea

Ed and Myra, Henn, Henne = the usual short form for Johannes in Hessen, Westfalen Hein(t)z(e) = short for Heinrich Cun(t)z, Kunz = short for Konrad Jobs(t), = mix of Job (Hiob) and Jost (Jodocus) Grundf = ? Kurt, Curt, Curd = old, short for Konrad Diether, 65824 Schwalbach Hessen > From: Ed Maul [mailto:edmaul@optonline.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:49 PM > > My data from Hessen lists men's given names and this has been perplexing for me. If I knew the given name name and nick > name I will be able to fit unlinked people into my family tree. > The time period is the 1500's and 1600's. > Here goes: > Henn= > Heinz= > Heintz= > Cunz= > Cuntz= > Jobss= > Jost= > Grundf=

Months ago I received a certificate of death of one of my ancestors. I cannot figure out what the spellings of the mothers maiden name is. Mary ?????? If anyone wants to take a stab at it I can email you a jpg of the document. The handwriting is not sloppy so maybe I'm just not seeing it. Perhaps someone more familiar w/German surnames will get it. Andrea

Speaking of nicknames......I am curious about the name "Cord" or "Kurt". This sounds like a nickname, but perhaps it is not. Does anyone know it's derivation? Myra

Hello Ed, The following are taken from Ernest Thode's, "German / English Genealogical Dictionary" Here goes: Henn= there is nothing for this abbreviation but there is Hennericus which is Latin for male given name, Heinrich and also listed is Henning another male given name Heinz= and Heintz= are both forms of given name Heinrich Cunz= and Cuntz= are a form of the male given name Konrad; Conrad Jobss= Jobst, Joss, Jost are forms of given names Jodicus (or Justus) Jost= see above Grundf= nothing is shown for this...is it a name? Grund means gound, valley floor, lot of ground Hope this helps a bit. Marion in New York too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Maul" <edmaul@optonline.net> To: <HESSE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:48 AM Subject: [HESSE] Given names and Nick names

My data from Hessen lists men's given names and this has been perplexing for me. If I knew the given name name and nick name I will be able to fit unlinked people into my family tree. The time period is the 1500's and 1600's. Here goes: Henn= Heinz= Heintz= Cunz= Cuntz= Jobss= Jost= Grundf= Anyone have any ideas? I habe been at genealogy since 1977 but there is always something new to learn. All help appreciated, Edmund, New York

Hello, I am searching for Henrich BALTZ born abt. 1823 in Hesse, Kassel Henry emigrated to Phila, PA before 1845 abt 1844 Henry BALTZ married Christiana HASS who was born Ruit, Baden/ Wuertt in1824( not sure place of marriage) They lived in Phila, PA Henry is listed as an inkeeper in 1860 and a butcher in 1870 Henry and Christiana's children are: Henry 1845 Catherine 1846 Mary 1850 John 1852 Jacob 1854 Clara 1857 Christian 1859 Amelia 1863 Thank You, Anita

Searching for Gleim, Schilling, Hofacker, Herwig, Weisbecker, Herold, Seipel, Acker, etc. Bad Orb, Salmuenster, Niederduenzebach, Eschwege, Eschwege-Neustadt, Eschwege-Alstadt, etc. Ed Maul, New York http://members.tripod.com/~Silvie/Schilling.html

I am wondering if anyone on the list might have the Germans to America CD that covers the 1850-1875 period? I am asking so I can beg a look up for an ancestor that I believe I have finally figured out the 24 month period of her immigration (1865-1867). If someone might have this CD and would be willing to take a look for me, please contact me off list. Thanks in advance. Rod Fleck Forks, WA

Hello All, I have found that my Grandfather' brother was born in Frankfurt am Main in 1840. I checked the LDS Family History Library and found several films for Frankfurt am Main. The all read Frankfurt - subname. Can the subname is the parish name? Can I found him only using each parish name, no central location? Alan Rossing, Monterey, California, USA

Peter KRAMP was born in Nassau (Wood Co OH history), Prussia, emigrated to Huron Co OH in 1854 and m Christiana SEEL 1861. He had - two brothers Adam and David and - three sisters, Elizabeth m Philip Schid, Jenny m Henry Menor and Catherine ( twin of Peter) m Ernest Gross. His parents died when he was young and none of the siblings emigrated to the US. Obit of his wife says he came from the "same" area in Germany as he did. Passenger and naturalization papers also give Nassau as his bp. The SEEL family was from Burg Schwalbach and parish records of many churches in wide area have been searched for this KRAMP family. None were found. Many letters to KRAMP persons in the current German telephone book were contacted. Of those who responded none had relevant information. The Wiesbaden - Mainz repositories have been searched and nothing was found. Does anyone have knowledge of this family or ideas for finding them. I would be forever grateful. Thanks. Mary Kramp Adams

Cheryl, Just playing a hunch (not always the best idea in genealogy research, but worth a try): Check out the list posting immediately before yours today from Virginia Dunham, citing a passenger listing for the ship Mocambique from Rotterdam to New York in 1851. Is that a coincidence or what? Dave

Cheryl, these films are available via the LDS, but it would be better if you knew the month of arrival. The films are such that each one covers a 2-3 week period in 1851, so you would have to go through many to find your ship. Googling both spelling variations of you ship gets little. Can you get closer to that name? You could try TheShipsList.com and ask there. Bart

I too am having no luck in finding the ship named in my Nassau emigrant ancestor's naturalization papers (I have looked in the National Archives microfilm of New York arrivals and it is not there): The ship "Zipspring" leaving the port of Antwerp on or around 5 August 1848 under Captain Woodward and arriving in New York on or about 25 September 1848. Any suggestions on other places to look? Michelle Stone

Maybe someone can help me find this passenger ship I have searched for and no luck finding. District of New York Port of New York 1851 From Rotterdam FJJ Bowman is the ship Capt Dutch Barq Motambique (Mozambique) It is hard to read the spelling of the ship or barque Thank you, Cheryl

Found the following on Ancestry.Com: Jacob Spies, 42; Elizabeth, 41; Elizabeth, 16; Heinrich, 14; Adam, 11; Peter, 10; Gertrude(?) 9, Maria Anna, 4(?); Margaretha, 6; Jacob, 4,; Ludwig, 2; Wilhelm infant. Arrival June 18, 1851; Port of Departure, Rotterdam, Netherland; origination, Hillersheim; destination, USA; ship, Mocombique. Can send you image of listing to your email. Virginia Dunham

Edmund Thank You. Carlene -------Original Message------- From: Ed Maul Date: 01/15/05 06:50:58 To: Carlene Trouth Subject: Re:Re: [HESSE] Schilling Dear Carlene, Forwarded your e-mail to Reinhard Schilling, in Augsburg, Germany. Edmund

Ed Would you give me the information on the Schilling Association and also for Greta Bauermann. Carlene

I would like to find out where to write for records for the town of Eiterfeld which is sort of near Fulda. Can anyone help? Thanks Marsha Rapp Searching: Rapp - Eiterfeld and Tann -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12/01/2005