There was an U.S. resource in the net, kind of a table or spreadsheet, which listed all towns and what parish they belonged to. I can remember it was available for some regions I do research in. May be somebody over here has a link at hand for Joel? Regards, Thierry Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: Joel S. Russell <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 22:16:08 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] Locating Churches - Maps The discussion on locating towns in Germany reminded me of a question I've been meaning to answer. Some time ago I came across the following map http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/NSAC/SLP/map.html for Schaumberg-Lippe. One of the best features for me is the fact that it shows which villages had churches and which did not. If a village I'm interested in doesn't have a church I can easily see which nearby villages had the church they most likely attended. Are there maps like this for other parts of Germany? Thanks! Joel http://www.rafert.org/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hey, that may be the clue... Reinhausen may not refer to the town of Reinhausen. It also may just be a spelling or understanding issue of the american officer who registered the record. May be your ancestor said he is from Büdesheim in Rheinhessen and he understood Budescheim in Reinhausen. This explains why there is no Büdesheim or Budesheim or Budescheim close to a Reinhausen or Rheinhausen. It is likely that the town you're looking for is one of the latter two mentioned below on the left side of the river Rhein, which for a century was part of Hessen-Darmstadt and known as the province Rheinhessen. Move on digging... Regards, Thierry Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 21:06:49 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany Spelling is everything! Here's your town: Büdesheim That's a u with an umlaut. There are at least three such towns in Hesse. One in Kreis Friedberg (that'd be Darmstadt), One in Kreis Alzay, and one in Kreis Bingen. I can't tell you if one of these is in Rheinhessen or not. The FHL has some of those records on film. You can search them for your ancestors for minor fee. HTH, Brian On Wed, March 4, 2009 1:49 pm, Ginger Willmann wrote: > > Thank you for your reply. I got the name of the town from baptismal > records on family search. It states that Anna Maria Wink was born and > christened on 06 Jan 1838 "Romanisch-Katholische, Buedesheim, Rheinhessen, > Hessen". On her marriage the priest wrote that she was born "Darmstadt > nota" as best I can make out - very, messy writing. So where should I look > for further records? > > Thanks, Ginger > >> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:32:46 +0000 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany >> >> Hi all, >> >> for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a >> great tool. >> >> Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This >> may make it more difficult for you to find a town. >> >> For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist >> nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to >> Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once >> belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to >> Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly >> different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not >> even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of >> Baden). >> >> Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my >> understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily >> abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there >> >> I have no clue how to help you there. >> >> More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take >> care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that >> most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where >> people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after >> marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new >> farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by >> law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a >> farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. >> There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around >> Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow >> this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a >> Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody >> there. >> >> Good luck, regards, >> >> Thierry >> >> >> Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> >> An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr >> Betreff: [HESSE] where to search >> >> >> I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and >> where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German >> geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard >> Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I >> can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 >> census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is >> Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they >> married in Texas).Thank you very much. >> >> Ginger >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live�: Life without walls. >> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! 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Where can I find the scan? Where is your personal page? Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 21:21:24 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] Researching very old military records in Hesse, and other things Ok, I'm going to try this again. It's been years and my ancestors are collecting dust. I have two problems (well, actually I have a lot more than 2), I'm working on. Problem one is how/where to write/research for my ancestor Cpl Frobesen stationed in Hanau in 1774. I have a scan of his son's baptism, listing Capit. Genevs Compagnie as the outfit he is with. I'm assuming, Capit. Genev was his commanding officer. Problem two is his grandfather, Johan George Engelbach, who I think was baptized in Dec 1731 in Assenheim, but the page bleeds to black in the bottom corner and his entry is the last on the page. I have scans of both of them posted on my personal page. Johan George's scan is quite large (8MB). I've never successfully transcribed this record, but what I have discerned, makes me believe I have the right record. I was hoping that someone would care to make an attempt to try to at least transcribe that record. That record of course leads to the third problem. There are no Engelbach records, that I in my limited ability can find, before this date in Assenheim, and I don't know where to look next to try to find out where they came from. Other than the local city hall. Thanks for reading, Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Thierry, Do you mean: http://www.progenealogists.com/ ??? Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thierry Dietrich" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Locating Churches - Maps There was an U.S. resource in the net, kind of a table or spreadsheet, which listed all towns and what parish they belonged to. I can remember it was available for some regions I do research in. May be somebody over here has a link at hand for Joel? Regards, Thierry Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: Joel S. Russell <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 22:16:08 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] Locating Churches - Maps The discussion on locating towns in Germany reminded me of a question I've been meaning to answer. Some time ago I came across the following map http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/NSAC/SLP/map.html for Schaumberg-Lippe. One of the best features for me is the fact that it shows which villages had churches and which did not. If a village I'm interested in doesn't have a church I can easily see which nearby villages had the church they most likely attended. Are there maps like this for other parts of Germany? Thanks! Joel http://www.rafert.org/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00
Another site to use for locating towns anywhere in the world, along with surrounding towns in various radii is: www.jewishgen.org/communities ; then click on Shetlseeker and input the town. It returns the town's latitude and longitude. You can then find the surround towns by specifing the radius desired along with their location. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thierry Dietrich" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany > Hi all, > > for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a great > tool. > > Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This may > make it more difficult for you to find a town. > > For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist nor > a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to Göttingen in > today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once belonged to Hessen? > However, I could not find anything close to Budescheim in its proximity > (there is another town with slightly different spelling: Rheinhausen on > the border to Alsace, but this is not even close to Hessen, but rather > part of the former Grandduchy of Baden). > > Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my > understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily > abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there > > I have no clue how to help you there. > > More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take care, > again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that most of > the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where people > lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after marriage), they > then changed their family name to the one of the new farm where they > settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by law and the family > names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a farm called Wildemann. > This could have been the origin of this line. There are a lot of little > towns or farms ending with -mann around Albersloh, but I haven't yet found > Wildemann. You may like to follow this trace with a local archive or > genealogist. There is a Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and > try to contact somebody there. > > Good luck, regards, > > Thierry > > > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> > An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr > Betreff: [HESSE] where to search > > > I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and where > to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German geography. I > have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard Henrich Wildemann > was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I can find nothing > about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 census of Texas. > Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is Budescheim, > Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they married in > Texas).Thank you very much. > > Ginger > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™: Life without walls. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you Mr.Don Watson for all your knowledge and time you share with all of us. Doris. **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005)
For those who might not want to buy, see if your library has the atlas or can get it on inter-library loan. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rudy Flack" To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany Albersloh, Wesfalen 48324 Sendenhorst ADAC MaxiAtlas, Deutschland, Page & Coordinate Map Location: 83-F3 Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hess (also, see spelling: Büdesheim) Budesheim Lat: 50.2166667 Long: 8.8333333 Büdesheim 54610 129-E5 (on Highway 410, between Prüm and Gerolstein) Two other villages with the same name: 55411 Bingen am Rhein 145-G2 61137 Schüneck 133-E5 The ADAC MaxiAtlas can be ordered over the Internet and is relatively inexpensive. I recommend it. It comes in two sizes; I use the larger size which is 11.5" x 16". Also, I use the Global Gazetteer which can be accessed via the following URL: http://www.fallingrain.com/world/ Also, you can look up your towns on Google Maps Rudy Flack Saint Louis, Missouri USA
The Battenbergs became Mountbattens - a direct translation. Elizabeth C [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/3/2009 6:39:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Battenfeld/Battenberg? > > > Bob: I am interested in what Thierry 's answer will be with the name of > Battenberg. > Remember the godfather of Prince Charles and the same family with > the English relatives maybe from this area ..The did anglicize their Name somehow. Can't remember it write now. There is also a lace-tableclothes out there with the same name. > Doris. > >
http://members.cox.net/hessen/towns.htm See also....... http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/hessen For other states, provinces, etc, just change the last word. For example, http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/niedersachsen
Hi all, for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a great tool. Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This may make it more difficult for you to find a town. For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of Baden). Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there I have no clue how to help you there. More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody there. Good luck, regards, Thierry Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] where to search I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they married in Texas).Thank you very much. Ginger _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The discussion on locating towns in Germany reminded me of a question I've been meaning to answer. Some time ago I came across the following map http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/NSAC/SLP/map.html for Schaumberg-Lippe. One of the best features for me is the fact that it shows which villages had churches and which did not. If a village I'm interested in doesn't have a church I can easily see which nearby villages had the church they most likely attended. Are there maps like this for other parts of Germany? Thanks! Joel http://www.rafert.org/home
Folks- How quickly we forget how to locate towns even though you might not know how to spell them correctly. You even get your choice of maps! http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp Rob Hausman At 03:49 PM 3/4/2009, you wrote: >Albersloh, Wesfalen >48324 Sendenhorst >ADAC MaxiAtlas, Deutschland, Page & Coordinate Map Location: 83-F3 > >Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hess (also, see spelling: Büdesheim) >Budesheim Lat: 50.2166667 Long: 8.8333333 > >Büdesheim >54610 129-E5 (on Highway 410, between Prüm and Gerolstein) > >Two other villages with the same name: >55411 Bingen am Rhein 145-G2 >61137 Schüneck 133-E5 > >The ADAC MaxiAtlas can be ordered over the Internet and is relatively >inexpensive. I recommend it. It comes in two sizes; I use the larger size >which is 11.5" x 16". >Also, I use the Global Gazetteer which can be accessed via the following >URL: >http://www.fallingrain.com/world/ >Also, you can look up your towns on Google Maps > >Rudy Flack >Saint Louis, Missouri USA > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of Thierry Dietrich >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:33 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany > >Hi all, > >for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a great >tool. > >Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This may >make it more difficult for you to find a town. > >For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist nor a >town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to Göttingen in >today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once belonged to Hessen? >However, I could not find anything close to Budescheim in its >proximity (there is another town with slightly different >spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not even close to >Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of Baden). > >Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my >understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily >abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there > >I have no clue how to help you there. > >More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take care, >again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that most of >the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where people lived. >When they moved to another farm (for instance after marriage), they then >changed their family name to the one of the new farm where they settled. >Only in the 19th century this was abolished by law and the family names were >"frozen". Thus I would try to locate a farm called Wildemann. This could >have been the origin of this line. There are a lot of little towns or farms >ending with -mann around Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You >may like to follow this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is >a Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody >there. > >Good luck, regards, > >Thierry > > >Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > >D-61250 Usingen > > > > >________________________________ >Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> >An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr >Betreff: [HESSE] where to search > > >I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and where >to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German geography. I have >found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard Henrich Wildemann was >born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I can find nothing about >ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 census of Texas. Could >someone tell me what to do next. Also where is Budescheim, Reinhausen, >Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they married in Texas).Thank you >very much. > >Ginger > >_________________________________________________________________ >Windows Live: Life without walls. >http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message ********************************* Robert E. Hausman Professor and Director of Graduate Studies Department of Biology Boston University 5 Cummington Street Boston, MA 02215 USA e-mail: [email protected] phone: 617 353-2470 fax: 617 353-6340
Lord Mountbatten. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] How to access Emigration records from Hessen Darmstadton HADIS > > In a message dated 3/3/2009 6:39:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Battenfeld/Battenberg? > > > Bob: I am interested in what Thierry 's answer will be with the name of > Battenberg. > Remember the godfather of Prince Charles and the same family > with > the English relatives > maybe from this area ..The did anglicize their Name somehow. > Can't > remember it write now. > There is also a lace-tableclothes out there with the same name. > Doris. > **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. > (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >
Albersloh, Wesfalen 48324 Sendenhorst ADAC MaxiAtlas, Deutschland, Page & Coordinate Map Location: 83-F3 Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hess (also, see spelling: Büdesheim) Budesheim Lat: 50.2166667 Long: 8.8333333 Büdesheim 54610 129-E5 (on Highway 410, between Prüm and Gerolstein) Two other villages with the same name: 55411 Bingen am Rhein 145-G2 61137 Schüneck 133-E5 The ADAC MaxiAtlas can be ordered over the Internet and is relatively inexpensive. I recommend it. It comes in two sizes; I use the larger size which is 11.5" x 16". Also, I use the Global Gazetteer which can be accessed via the following URL: http://www.fallingrain.com/world/ Also, you can look up your towns on Google Maps Rudy Flack Saint Louis, Missouri USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thierry Dietrich Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany Hi all, for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a great tool. Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This may make it more difficult for you to find a town. For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of Baden). Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there I have no clue how to help you there. More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody there. Good luck, regards, Thierry Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr Betreff: [HESSE] where to search I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they married in Texas).Thank you very much. Ginger _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ok, I'm going to try this again. It's been years and my ancestors are collecting dust. I have two problems (well, actually I have a lot more than 2), I'm working on. Problem one is how/where to write/research for my ancestor Cpl Frobesen stationed in Hanau in 1774. I have a scan of his son's baptism, listing Capit. Genevs Compagnie as the outfit he is with. I'm assuming, Capit. Genev was his commanding officer. Problem two is his grandfather, Johan George Engelbach, who I think was baptized in Dec 1731 in Assenheim, but the page bleeds to black in the bottom corner and his entry is the last on the page. I have scans of both of them posted on my personal page. Johan George's scan is quite large (8MB). I've never successfully transcribed this record, but what I have discerned, makes me believe I have the right record. I was hoping that someone would care to make an attempt to try to at least transcribe that record. That record of course leads to the third problem. There are no Engelbach records, that I in my limited ability can find, before this date in Assenheim, and I don't know where to look next to try to find out where they came from. Other than the local city hall. Thanks for reading, Brian
If you are at AOL they format the links provided differently. You may have to insert the AOL format to get my links to work. I THINK it goes something like this for AOL: <A href="http://members.cox.net/hessen/letters.htm"> Maybe someone at AOL knows exactly. :-) Don
Spelling is everything! Here's your town: Büdesheim That's a u with an umlaut. There are at least three such towns in Hesse. One in Kreis Friedberg (that'd be Darmstadt), One in Kreis Alzay, and one in Kreis Bingen. I can't tell you if one of these is in Rheinhessen or not. The FHL has some of those records on film. You can search them for your ancestors for minor fee. HTH, Brian On Wed, March 4, 2009 1:49 pm, Ginger Willmann wrote: > > Thank you for your reply. I got the name of the town from baptismal > records on family search. It states that Anna Maria Wink was born and > christened on 06 Jan 1838 "Romanisch-Katholische, Buedesheim, Rheinhessen, > Hessen". On her marriage the priest wrote that she was born "Darmstadt > nota" as best I can make out - very, messy writing. So where should I look > for further records? > > Thanks, Ginger > >> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:32:46 +0000 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany >> >> Hi all, >> >> for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a >> great tool. >> >> Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This >> may make it more difficult for you to find a town. >> >> For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist >> nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to >> Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once >> belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to >> Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly >> different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not >> even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of >> Baden). >> >> Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my >> understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily >> abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there >> >> I have no clue how to help you there. >> >> More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take >> care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that >> most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where >> people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after >> marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new >> farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by >> law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a >> farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. >> There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around >> Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow >> this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a >> Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody >> there. >> >> Good luck, regards, >> >> Thierry >> >> >> Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> >> An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr >> Betreff: [HESSE] where to search >> >> >> I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and >> where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German >> geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard >> Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I >> can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 >> census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is >> Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they >> married in Texas).Thank you very much. >> >> Ginger >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live�: Life without walls. >> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >
Thank you for your reply. I got the name of the town from baptismal records on family search. It states that Anna Maria Wink was born and christened on 06 Jan 1838 "Romanisch-Katholische, Buedesheim, Rheinhessen, Hessen". On her marriage the priest wrote that she was born "Darmstadt nota" as best I can make out - very, messy writing. So where should I look for further records? Thanks, Ginger > Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:32:46 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HESSE] Locating towns in Germany > > Hi all, > > for locating towns in Germany I recommend using Google Maps. It is a great tool. > > Often, however, the american spellings of german towns are wrong. This may make it more difficult for you to find a town. > > For instance neither the below mentioned town "Budescheim" does exist nor a town "Reinhausen" in Hessen. There is a Reinhausen close to Göttingen in today's Land of Niedersachsen. May be this one once belonged to Hessen? However, I could not find anything close to Budescheim in its proximity (there is another town with slightly different spelling: Rheinhausen on the border to Alsace, but this is not even close to Hessen, but rather part of the former Grandduchy of Baden). > > Some towns disappeared over time, but Reinhausen, according to my understanding, seems to be a larger town. Larger towns were not easily abandonned, so should still exist today. Also try Rheinhausen. But there > > I have no clue how to help you there. > > More easy is Albersloh, which indeed lays in Westfalen (please take care, again a misspelling in your file). Special to Westfalen was, that most of the family names were derived from the name of the Farm where people lived. When they moved to another farm (for instance after marriage), they then changed their family name to the one of the new farm where they settled. Only in the 19th century this was abolished by law and the family names were "frozen". Thus I would try to locate a farm called Wildemann. This could have been the origin of this line. There are a lot of little towns or farms ending with -mann around Albersloh, but I haven't yet found Wildemann. You may like to follow this trace with a local archive or genealogist. There is a Westfalen-list in german language. Google it and try to contact somebody there. > > Good luck, regards, > > Thierry > > > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Ginger Willmann <[email protected]> > An: Hesse Rootsweb <[email protected]> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, den 4. März 2009, 14:49:37 Uhr > Betreff: [HESSE] where to search > > > I have been enjoying all the information about emigration papers and where to look. I am sorry to say I do not know much about German geography. I have found that my husband's grt grt grandfather Gerard Henrich Wildemann was born in Albersloh, Wesfalen, Preussen in 1832. I can find nothing about ships, papers etc. He next shows up in the 1860 census of Texas. Could someone tell me what to do next. Also where is Budescheim, Reinhausen, Hesse? His wife Anna Wink was born there. (they married in Texas).Thank you very much. > > Ginger > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™: Life without walls. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme
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I'm not sure whether I recommend this or not. For me it was great, for others it might not work, I guess. But I did an Internet search on the village my great-grandfather had left - Arnshain, Hesse-Darmstadt. And I began opening the various pages and came across a cook at a little cafe in town. He happened to have an email link, so I wrote him, in English. I asked about the town, the history of the town, and told him about my ancestors who lived there. He wrote back in English, although it was difficult. He was very enthusiastic about meeting someone in America, and about my ancestry going back to Arnshain. He actually took it upon himself to go to the church and sent information about my great-grandfather and his children. And he spoke to what he called the oldest man in town, who told him where to go for more information. This is how I learned the exact date in which the family left for America. He also sent me photos of the town, some were aerial, which were especially beautiful. So for me it was a fun experience, and I thoroughly enjoyed our communications back and forth. I also know I was lucky to have hit upon such a person on my very first, and only, letter to someone in that town. But hey, like mentioned in the email I just read, you don't know unless you try! Susan On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:19:57 AM, "Thierry Dietrich" <[email protected]> wrote: Many germans do speak or understand english a little or fairly well. Some don't. You won't know if you don't try. ;-) *grin*