Elizabeth and TW Scott - On the off-chance that someone could help you . . . since you've already put in so much info, please add a name and place! I have an almost exact story for my Eli Deao, born 1824 in NY, father born in Germany [according to one census]; Eli lived in Stark Co., Illinois, died in Iowa 1899. Can't find parents or siblings, or county of his birth or where his parents married. Anybody have an idea??! I take every opportunity to get this info out there! I already have all that's available from 1850 forward that is readily available on the Internet. Thanks - Kathleen On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Elizabeth Cunningham < [email protected]> wrote: > Welcome to the club. My father's family never owned land, never made > wills, moved every 6 months (to escape the rent man?), missed a lot of > censuses, don't know about voting, didn't serve in the army. Worked in > mills and tended boilers, as far as I can tell. Cannot tell where > great-grandfather and family came from in Germany, though I can tell > they came about 1850 (cannot find a manifest nor citizenship papers). > Actually found a receipt for a grave (grandfather died at 55 when my > father was 4) but there is no marker and the cemetery only found his > grave when I showed them a receipt. Neither wife spoke English well > (for that matter, my grandmother's first husband didn't either). > Cemetery has no record of burial of grandfather's first wife, though the > death certificate, which I actually have, shows where she is buried. > And what religion were they? Grandfather married 2 wives in Lutheran > churches, first wife and grandfather buried in Catholic cemeteries, > second wife buried in secular cemetery. AAGH! > > Elizabeth C > > TW Scott wrote: I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let > alone farther back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family > was skipped on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never > served in the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, > orphaned at 7 years old. But here I am. > > > > Regards, > > TW Scott

Welcome to the club. My father's family never owned land, never made wills, moved every 6 months (to escape the rent man?), missed a lot of censuses, don't know about voting, didn't serve in the army. Worked in mills and tended boilers, as far as I can tell. Cannot tell where great-grandfather and family came from in Germany, though I can tell they came about 1850 (cannot find a manifest nor citizenship papers). Actually found a receipt for a grave (grandfather died at 55 when my father was 4) but there is no marker and the cemetery only found his grave when I showed them a receipt. Neither wife spoke English well (for that matter, my grandmother's first husband didn't either). Cemetery has no record of burial of grandfather's first wife, though the death certificate, which I actually have, shows where she is buried. And what religion were they? Grandfather married 2 wives in Lutheran churches, first wife and grandfather buried in Catholic cemeteries, second wife buried in secular cemetery. AAGH! Elizabeth C TW Scott wrote: > True enough. And it means we are related even when our names are different. Traceable through records? Probably not. > > I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let alone farther back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family was skipped on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never served in the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, orphaned at 7 years old. But here I am. > > Regards, > TW Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Date: 04/14/2009 02:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related > > Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? > > Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names > came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (Müller), a cellarman > (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter > (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no > castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons > (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a > 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it > very hard to prove any relationship. > > Brian > > >

True enough. And it means we are related even when our names are different. Traceable through records? Probably not. I have problems tracing my paternal great grandfather, let alone farther back. No records survive. Courthouse burned down. His family was skipped on more than one census. Never owned land, never voted, never served in the Army, no birth record, no death record, no grave marker, orphaned at 7 years old. But here I am. Regards, TW Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: 04/14/2009 02:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HESSE] All related Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (Müller), a cellarman (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it very hard to prove any relationship. Brian On Tue, April 14, 2009 12:16 pm, TW Scott wrote: > Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related > somehow don't we? > Wayne Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] > Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Hi all. > > Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany.  > Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half > of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is > not represented. > > Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related > is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in > Indiana.  ;-) > > If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use > GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last > names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing > before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. > > Regards, > > Thierry >   > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Arden <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr > Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Brian, > > I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. > > >>I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. >> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). 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I don't have my Obenchains under my nose for specifics, but I think this was the list that informed me "they were very poor" (not surprising) but didn't find anything else. I first know dates, etc., about them when they somehow got over to U.S. & swore oath of allegiance to country at time of American Revolution. Thank goodness for their timing; now that I'm in D.A.R. I was able to claim them as 2 of my 9 Revolutionary War era ancestors. (I thank D.A.R. for laying down strict rules for membership, so that most of my known cousins have been proved by b-d-m records I've personally had to have or other people's "proved" research.) I've also learned that I'm one of the thousands of descendants worldwide of Ulrich Zug, Switzerland. My symphony stand partner, closely related to Zooks from Champaign Co., talked freely and often about his Zooks and German-Swiss ancestry (one of his Zook-Yoder cousins played viola in this same orchestra) - but it took me at least 10 years to learn that Zug=Zook and we're distant cousins. My county of Clark apparently at one time was overrun by a load of my Leffel cousins - but until Mother and I concentrated upon that line (her paternal grandfather Drake's) did we learn the truth about just how many descendants of Daniel Leffel (and Balthazar Leffel, the original "proved" ancestor) were living sometimes a block away from each other and had no idea there was blood relationship. We certainly weren't "kissing" cousins - my Mort neighbors and his Mort daughter married to our paperboy Kurtz's father are an interesting example. I've found through investigating backward through our English lines that many who intermarried with Germans and French and our line of Leffels tended to have generations of multiple siblings. Of course, same could be said of my father's basic Scottish, Irish, English, German ancestors. In my case my genealogy finally came down to two only children marrying and having an only with dozens of cousins. Janet

Louis M. Gasser, Apartment - opposite Fisher's factory. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JK" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [HESSE] Photogs name > Just a quick translation on a photogs name at > http://newhamburg.org/ads/ad.html > Louis M Ga????? > > Would also appreciate knowing what he is located above. > > Thanks > > JK > > TW Scott wrote: >> Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related >> somehow don't we? >> Wayne Scott >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] >> Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Hi all. >> >> Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany. >> Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half >> of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is >> not represented. >> >> Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related >> is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in >> Indiana. ;-) >> >> If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use >> GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last >> names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing >> before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. >> >> Regards, >> >> Thierry >> >> Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich >> >> D-61250 Usingen >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Von: Arden <[email protected]> >> An: [email protected] >> Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr >> Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help >> >> Brian, >> >> I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. >> >> >>> I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to >>> time. >>> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >>> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >>> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> What town does this family come from? I have a Maria Barbara Bauer >>>> from >>>> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Bev W >>>> >>>> >>>> ************** >>>> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for >>>> $10 or less. >>>> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Pest Control >> BUGS? Target them with the best in Pest Control. Click Here. >> http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1gwcLc4Ait9MHNdhYOHX6CHRlQHExq78nZE5dMZEgSbwgO8jxbXyTG/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all. Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany.  Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is not represented. Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in Indiana.  ;-) If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. Regards, Thierry   Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: Arden <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help Brian, I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. >I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. > Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I > have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my > sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. > > Brian > > On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> Hello, >> >> What town does this family come from?  I have a Maria Barbara Bauer from >> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bev W >> >> >> ************** >> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for >> $10 or less. >> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a quick translation on a photogs name at http://newhamburg.org/ads/ad.html Louis M Ga????? Would also appreciate knowing what he is located above. Thanks JK TW Scott wrote: > Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related somehow don't we? > Wayne Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] > Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Hi all. > > Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany. Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is not represented. > > Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in Indiana. ;-) > > If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. > > Regards, > > Thierry > > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Arden <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr > Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Brian, > > I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. > > >> I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. >> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. >> >> Brian >> >> On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> What town does this family come from? I have a Maria Barbara Bauer from >>> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bev W >>> >>> >>> ************** >>> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for >>> $10 or less. >>> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Pest Control > BUGS? Target them with the best in Pest Control. Click Here. > http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1gwcLc4Ait9MHNdhYOHX6CHRlQHExq78nZE5dMZEgSbwgO8jxbXyTG/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah, but the question is can those relations be traced down with records? Just about every town in the time period where surnames and last names came into being had a farmer (Bauer), a miller (Müller), a cellarman (Keller) or cooper (Kiefer), a blacksmith (Schmidt), a carpenter (Zimmermann), and a weaver (Weber). Or had one nearby. Certainly no castle town would be without any of these, along with some masons (Steinmetz, Maurer). So you see the Bauer surname probably popped up in a 1000 villages or more across the Germanic empire simultaneously, making it very hard to prove any relationship. Brian On Tue, April 14, 2009 12:16 pm, TW Scott wrote: > Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related > somehow don't we? > Wayne Scott > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] > Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Hi all. > > Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany.  > Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half > of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is > not represented. > > Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related > is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in > Indiana.  ;-) > > If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use > GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last > names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing > before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. > > Regards, > > Thierry >   > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Arden <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr > Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Brian, > > I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. > > >>I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. >> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. >> >> Brian >> >> On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> What town does this family come from?  I have a Maria Barbara Bauer >>> from >>> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bev W >>> >>> >>> ************** >>> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for >>> $10 or less. >>> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Pest Control > BUGS? Target them with the best in Pest Control. Click Here. > http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1gwcLc4Ait9MHNdhYOHX6CHRlQHExq78nZE5dMZEgSbwgO8jxbXyTG/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Yeah, good thing most of my family names are much more rare like Muller, Schmidt, Keller, and Kiefer. ;') Although I do have a Strumpfweber or two. Which I've been meaning to ask about. Not sure if it's a name or the townspeople just didn't know his name at first. Then later included records based on his name. That would make it more challenging. Brian "Still looking for that elusive Johan Adolf Müller from Prussia" On Tue, April 14, 2009 9:37 am, Thierry Dietrich wrote: > Hi all. > > Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany.  > Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half > of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is > not represented. > > Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related > is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in > Indiana.  ;-) > > If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use > GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last > names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing > before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. > > Regards, > > Thierry >   > Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich > > D-61250 Usingen > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: Arden <[email protected]> > An: [email protected] > Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr > Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help > > Brian, > > I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. > > >>I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. >> Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I >> have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my >> sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. >> >> Brian >> >> On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> What town does this family come from?  I have a Maria Barbara Bauer >>> from >>> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bev W >>> >>> >>> ************** >>> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for >>> $10 or less. >>> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Whether from the ocean ooze, or Adam and Eve, we all have to be related somehow don't we? Wayne Scott -----Original Message----- From: "Thierry Dietrich" [[email protected]] Date: 04/14/2009 10:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help Hi all. Bauer is among the TOP15 Names with the highest occurrence in Germany.  Although there is a significantly higher occurrence in the southern half of Germany, there still is no single county in Germany where this name is not represented. Therefore assuming two randomly selected Bauer's in the U.S. are related is about as probable as a Smith in Florida is related with a Smith in Indiana.  ;-) If you want to know how frequent a German last name is, you can use GeoGen, the same tool providing you the geographical distribution of last names. It will tell you the rank of the last name in the text appearing before you click "relative" or "absolute" distribution. Regards, Thierry   Dr. Thierry P. Dietrich D-61250 Usingen ________________________________ Von: Arden <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Gesendet: Montag, den 13. April 2009, 14:57:19 Uhr Betreff: Re: [HESSE] Bauer translation help Brian, I have Bauer's from Saarbrucken, some emigrated and settled in Wisconsin. >I see records of people from Gross-Karben in Assenheim from time to time. > Not surprising though as I see entries for most of the nearby towns. I > have not seen any Bauers from there though. I'll have to go through my > sponsors and see if I have any from there (time consuming). Small world. > > Brian > > On Sat, April 11, 2009 4:19 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> Hello, >> >> What town does this family come from?  I have a Maria Barbara Bauer from >> Gross-Karben ..late 1700s. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bev W >> >> >> ************** >> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store?  Make dinner for >> $10 or less. >> (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------ Pest Control BUGS? Target them with the best in Pest Control. Click Here. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1gwcLc4Ait9MHNdhYOHX6CHRlQHExq78nZE5dMZEgSbwgO8jxbXyTG/

David, I tried to look at this site but there is NO English version.My surname is EYER-Elisabetha b abt 1839. Rae QLd Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Moufarrege" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [HESSE] How do I find a Town in Hesse for surname FROLIG/FROLICH Barbara, You can try here: http://www.online-ofb.de/ This site offers local church and civil records online. There are a few from Hessen. http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ is a site that has a compilation of family trees. You should probably expand the spelling to include Frohlich and Fröhlich (Froehlich). Good luck! David Rochester, New York > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:08:21 -0600 > From: Barbara Meredith <[email protected]> > Subject: [HESSE] How do I find a Town in Hesse for surname > FROLIG/FROLICH > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It is rather difficult to find information on George Frolig born Hessen > circa 1710 when one does not know the town. Are there any Census records > that one can check looking for a surname which would then give you the > Town? Any ideas would be most helpful. George left on a ship out of > Rotterdamn in 1751 on a voyage to Canada. > > Thanks, > Barbara, in Alberta Canada > > -- > "Forgotten Settlers": Nova Scotia's Foreign Protestants > www.barbarameredith.com > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Plus, it's fun! You get to say words like "hell" and "fahrt" and they don't mean what we in the U.S. think they mean. My own house here in Germany is hell, and that's a good thing (it means light or bright). Having another language or two under your belt opens your research options. You're never too old to learn some of the basics! Anna On Apr 14, 2009, at 4:28 AM, [email protected] wrote: > However, if you're going to research your own German roots it would be > beneficial to learn some basic German at least. > > Brian

Und dann hast Du die Sache auch noch ein wenig aufgelockert! :-) Gruss aus den USA, David Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:31:37 +0200 From: "M. Anna Hanson" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HESSE] How do I find a Town in Hesse for surname FROLIG/FROLICH To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Plus, it's fun! You get to say words like "hell" and "fahrt" and they don't mean what we in the U.S. think they mean. My own house here in Germany is hell, and that's a good thing (it means light or bright). Having another language or two under your belt opens your research options. You're never too old to learn some of the basics! Anna On Apr 14, 2009, at 4:28 AM, [email protected] wrote: > However, if you're going to research your own German roots it would be > beneficial to learn some basic German at least. > > Brian

Barbara, you can try http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx it gives the geographical distribution of a name at present (or some years back) based on telephone directories. You would also have to do some research of the areas that made up Hesse(n) at the time your ancestor emigrated and see which match the places with the most people with that name. It could be a starting point. good luck, Alexis 2009/4/13 greg & rae ryan <[email protected]> > David, > I tried to look at this site but there is NO English version.My surname is > EYER-Elisabetha b abt 1839. > Rae QLd Aust. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Moufarrege" <[email protected]> > To: <hesse[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:16 AM > Subject: Re: [HESSE] How do I find a Town in Hesse for surname > FROLIG/FROLICH > > > Barbara, > > You can try here: http://www.online-ofb.de/ > > This site offers local church and civil records online. There are a few > from > Hessen. > > http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ is a site that has a compilation of family > trees. > > You should probably expand the spelling to include Frohlich and Fröhlich > (Froehlich). > > Good luck! > > David > Rochester, New York > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:08:21 -0600 > > From: Barbara Meredith <[email protected]> > > Subject: [HESSE] How do I find a Town in Hesse for surname > > FROLIG/FROLICH > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > It is rather difficult to find information on George Frolig born Hessen > > circa 1710 when one does not know the town. Are there any Census records > > that one can check looking for a surname which would then give you the > > Town? Any ideas would be most helpful. George left on a ship out of > > Rotterdamn in 1751 on a voyage to Canada. > > > > Thanks, > > Barbara, in Alberta Canada > > > > -- > > "Forgotten Settlers": Nova Scotia's Foreign Protestants > > www.barbarameredith.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Wow, this list is awesome! I have had so much help, thank you; and what is interesting is that they were all different. Many choices of websites, and ways to incorporate English to read them. This will keep me busy for a while. Cheers, Barb in Alberta, Canada

There are at least two options for viewing non-English sites for those who don't read the language. Option 1: Install Firefox, then install the plug-in abctajpu. With this combination viewing a German website in English is as easy as clicking on the "translate this page" button in the bottom corner of the browser. Option 2: copy the web address, go to http://translate.google.com, select the two languages, paste in the url and press enter. Either way, it's easy as pie. However, if you're going to research your own German roots it would be beneficial to learn some basic German at least. Brian On Mon, April 13, 2009 6:33 pm, greg & rae ryan wrote: > David, > I tried to look at this site but there is NO English version.My surname is > EYER-Elisabetha b abt 1839. > Rae QLd Aust.

Barbara, You can try here: http://www.online-ofb.de/ This site offers local church and civil records online. There are a few from Hessen. http://gedbas.genealogy.net/ is a site that has a compilation of family trees. You should probably expand the spelling to include Frohlich and Fröhlich (Froehlich). Good luck! David Rochester, New York > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:08:21 -0600 > From: Barbara Meredith <[email protected]> > Subject: [HESSE] How do I find a Town in Hesse for surname > FROLIG/FROLICH > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It is rather difficult to find information on George Frolig born Hessen > circa 1710 when one does not know the town. Are there any Census records > that one can check looking for a surname which would then give you the > Town? Any ideas would be most helpful. George left on a ship out of > Rotterdamn in 1751 on a voyage to Canada. > > Thanks, > Barbara, in Alberta Canada > > -- > "Forgotten Settlers": Nova Scotia's Foreign Protestants > www.barbarameredith.com > > >

Cindy,? Where are you Phipps from.? My husband's were from Worcestershire, England to Berkshire, to Chester?Co.?PA, to Montgomery Co. PA, then to Venango Co. PA forever. Email me at [email protected] if you'd like to collaborate on this. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 5:02 pm Subject: Re: [HESSE] A question on surnames Mine landed in NY, and it looks like they came from places fairly far apart. Even though, we both wound up in the same city (more or less). I can't say where my other ancestors settled. I know I have more immigrants to track. But who knows, maybe we are? Brian On Mon, April 13, 2009 3:47 pm, Cindy Phipps wrote: > Brian, > where is the US did your 'Rupp's settle? Mine landed in St. Louis, MO, > and > some in Louisiana. Are we related? > Cindy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:57 AM > Subject: [HESSE] A question on surnames > > >> Should I consider Rupp as a separate surname from Ruppel? I have at >> least >> one confirmed case in this town where Rupel was used in naming a Rupp, >> but >> that could be an isolated incident. >> >> Thanks, >> Brian >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ken, On "Keller Family Genealogy Forum" there is a query left by 'Patricia'. (Message #2367) She is looking for info on Frederick Keller, born about 1847 Hesse Darmstadt Germany who came to the US with family "before 1865" and lived in NYC. His parents were Jacob Keller (c 1810) and Elizabeth (unk) (c 1816), both of Darmstadt. Frederick's bro was born c 1840. He married Frederica Seiferle (b c 1839) and they moved to Farmingdale, LI around 1888. Unfortunately, this message is dated back in 2001. I found this Jacob and Frederica in Manhattan in 1880 and Frederick and his parents are living in the hh as well. Frederick is single so there's a good chance he married in NYC. Jacob and Frederika are living in Manhattan in 1900. Jacob born Apr 1840 - immigration is 1863. You may have to take a closer look at all the Keller's in NYC to see if you can find a connection. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Lampel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: [HESSE] Keller Hello! I am looking for birth, marraige, death, baptism records for a Emma Keller. Born approx NOV 1848 in Hesse-Darmstadt. I think that is in Germany now correct? I have no clue who her father and mother are but she married Matthais Strobel. She had approx 7 children Emma, Charles, Edward, John, Mary, Connie, Joseph. I have census records to show this and 1900 census shows immigration year as 1857. I know her last name from Leonhard Lampel and Emma Strobels 1886 marraige certificate stating her parents were Mathew Strobel and Emma Keller. The 1870 census lists her place of birth as H. Darmstadt. Can anyone help find who her parents were?? btw I can read German! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mine landed in NY, and it looks like they came from places fairly far apart. Even though, we both wound up in the same city (more or less). I can't say where my other ancestors settled. I know I have more immigrants to track. But who knows, maybe we are? Brian On Mon, April 13, 2009 3:47 pm, Cindy Phipps wrote: > Brian, > where is the US did your 'Rupp's settle? Mine landed in St. Louis, MO, > and > some in Louisiana. Are we related? > Cindy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:57 AM > Subject: [HESSE] A question on surnames > > >> Should I consider Rupp as a separate surname from Ruppel? I have at >> least >> one confirmed case in this town where Rupel was used in naming a Rupp, >> but >> that could be an isolated incident. >> >> Thanks, >> Brian >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >