Thank you for your comments. I agree on all counts. It seems these Henrys being discussed in the emails leading up to your reply were in PA before coming to VA. The line was Presbyterian and believed to be Ulster Scots or Scots only, most likely Ulster Scots. In pension applications, old soldiers often put the current names of counties when putting where they were born, not the actual name the county was at their births. Another Henry line, the one I know best, Rev. War soldier John Henry of Shady Grove, Dumplin Creek, Jefferson Co., TN, put in his pension application that he was born 1761 in Rockingham Co. VA. At the time of his birth it was Augusta Co., but he was born in the triangle of land between War Branch and Muddy Creek, an area of land that became Rockingham Co. VA; so he gave the county name as he remembered it from his teen-age and young adult years. This Rev. War John Henry was son of Henry Henry who turned tithable in then Augusta Co. VA in 1750 and was born 1732 or before. He may or may not have been previously in PA, but most of the families his children married into followed that pattern. He is believed to have been native Irish and not an Ulster Scot, but we are still working on that, looking for clues and proofs. The DNA tests support the possibility of native Irish. The Henry group discussed in the emails leading up to this email is the first group above. I have DNA results in from the two above groups, and they have 0% chance of sharing a common ancestor in the past 800 yrs! And these two Henry groups lived on opposite ends of a small creek in Jefferson and Sevier Co. TN. We do not yet have a participant for Rev. War William Henry of Jones Cove, Sevier Co., TN. It will be interesting to see if there is a match between either of the two groups above, or we may find we have a totally third separate group here in this small area. We do have a group for a George Henry who was in Cocke Co. TN and apparently all of his that group left Cocke Co. and went to White Co. TN. See: http://genforum.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?putnam,tn::henry::395.html We have other groups testing and are eagerly awaiting results. I will check out your site. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Strong" <strong@nantucket.net> To: <HENRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: [HENRY] Re: Hugh Henry and Berkeley Co., VA >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HENRY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRi.2ACEB/3243 Message Board Post: I am looking for a complete listing of the descendants of Patrick Henry (Gov of Va) born 29 May 1736 in Virginia. My quest is to determine if any of his descendants migrated to Warren and/or Frederick Counties Virginia. Specifically I am trying to determine if Alfred Henry b. 1797 in Virginia is related to Patrick. I believe that Alfred’s father was Nelson Henry. If someone has research to prove my Henry’s in Frederick County Virginia are related to Patrick Henry or any other Henry family, I have a ton of Henry data from Frederick County Virginia to share. Thanks, Dick

Doris, I am NOT going to debate the issue. Who ever posted the info for Major Hugh Henry on the Sevier County website may either know more or Judy Henry is wrong! This is the SEVIER CO., TN LIBRARY WEBSITE SCROLL DOWN FOR MAJOR HUGH HENRY: http://www.sevierlibrary.org/genealogy/militialist/revwar.htm FROM THE SITE: Henry, Hugh Born April 1756 in Berkeley County Virginia Service Soldier In Virginia And Again in North Carolina Served under Capt. Bledsoe in Battle of Kings Mountain and under Col. Sevier at Battle of Boyd's Creek Married Mary Long 1st, Mary Upton 2nd. died March 1838. DAR Patriot Index Cent. Ed. Page 1396 Buried Hugh Henry Cemetery. Kodak I've had a copy of both my William & John Herny's Rev. War pension applications including Elizabeth Jone Henry's widow application from the Washington Archives for numerous years. Patti > Major Hugh Henry nor any of the Samuel Henry line was born in Berkley Co. VA > so far as anyone knows . Another line of Sevier Co. TN Henrys, your line, > William Henry of Jones Cove and his brother John, born Rev. War soldiers, > were born in Berkley Co. VA. There is no definitive proof where Samuel Henry > and his son Maj. Hugh Henry were born. There is no Rev. War pension for > either of them. They were born in VA. Judy received her information from > Sam, and when I checked with Sam he had no proof of the Hanover as a place > of birth. I believe that the closest he can come to where they were in VA > was that a descendant who went to AL put in a book "Goodspeeds? possibly" > that Samuel Henry's family came from PA to near Richmond VA to Sevier Co. > TN. I have not seen a single proof of documentation as to where they were > in VA or where they were born. We see severaal mentions to a Samuel Henry in > VA, but we don't get any clues to show which one of them he might be. > > In regards to your Henrys, I have transcribed Revolutionary Soldier John > Henry of Cocke Co.'s pension, and I will post in this summer. He fought at > Yorktown under George Washington and General Marcus (whom I believe was the > Marquise de LaFayette from looking up information on the battles). No wife > and children are listed in his pension, but that doesn't mean he didn't have > a wife and children. It is ususally only in the widow's pension files that > we find such information. He like his brother William of Jones Cove did put > they were born in "Barkley" Co. VA which we know is Berkley, and forgive me > if I spell any of them wrong as I am doing this from memory on a Sat. > morning! > > I have a copy of Judy Henry's book, and she and I correspond several times > a week. This is what Judy says in her well researched book about Samuel > Henry's place of birth: > > Samuel Henry, Sr. > > > > Samuel1 Henry. The traditional date used for the birth of Samuel Henry, Sr. > is about 1728 to 1730, though no document exists to prove when he was born. > He may have been born in Scotland, Ireland, Pennsylvania or Virginia[i] and > died, perhaps, about 1797[ii] in Carter or Washington County, Tennessee. He > married Rachel Unknown, who may have died by 1801. > > > > > > According to Aurelia Cate Dawson, a descendant of Hugh Henry, there was a > family tradition that "an old man - Henry with five or six sons settled in > one of the upper counties of present East Tennessee in the early settlement > of this country and that they were the progenitors of the East Tennessee > Henrys."[i] Early Tennessee records proved that Samuel Henry, his wife, > Rachel, and at least six of his sons, William, James, Hugh, John, Samuel, > Jr. and Ezekiel, settled in the Watagua River Valley of what is now the > Johnson City area of Eastern Tennessee by about 1775. They are an official > First Family of Tennessee.[ii] > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [i] Dawson, Our East Tennessee Kinsmen, p. 1. > > [ii] East Tennessee Historical Society. First Families of Tennessee, p. > 174-175. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [i] Possible locations for his birth gleaned from undocumented research > clues. > > [ii] Ray, Tennessee Cousins. He most certainly had died by 1801 when his > sons sold his final property. > > > > You can purchase her book on a CD at a very reasonable price. If interested > email me for her email if you don't have it already. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pattee@charter.net> > To: <HENRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:48 PM > Subject: [HENRY] Henry DNA Project First Results > > > > Doris and all, > > For those who are researching the Samuel Henry line, which has been > > referred to for the DNA study through Judy Henry's book. Judy states Major > > Hugh Henry Sr. s/o Samuel & Rachel Henry was born in Hanover Co., VA. Per: > > Major Hugh Henry Sr. Rev. War Pension (it's my understanding a copy is at > > the Sevier Co., TN library) states he was born in Berkeley County, > > Virginia. The Sevier County library's web site has a list of Rev. War > > soldiers and where they where born. Major Hugh Henry's is listed. > > This may assist those who have been looking in the wrong area for > > additional records. There is too much of a distance to be able to locate > > any records. It's very possible Samuel Henry may have been there for > > several years and all of his children where born there. I'm not > > researching that line at the present. > > Patti

Patti, I don't doubt that someone put that Maj. Hugh Henry was born 1756 in Berkley Co. VA on a DAR index or membership application, but I am saying there is no document anywhere to show where that "fact" came from. I don't know who submitted that application or in what year it was submitted. Sam Maner assured me within the past two months that the only "proof" he had about where Maj. Hugh Henry and Samuel Henry originated in VA came from a Maj. Hugh Henry descendant who went to Guntersville, AL, and wrote what I put in the previous post about the being descended from Henrys who came from PA to VA to TN. I believe that descendant said they lived near Richmond, VA. That descendant got the name wrong for the father of Maj. Hugh Henry. He did not call him Samuel! The rest of what Sam Maner has on Maj. Hugh Henry is traditionary. There is no Rev. War pension file for Maj. Hugh Henry. I assume that someone had read the pension files of William Henry of Jones Cove and John Henry of Cocke Co. and assumed that Maj. Hugh Henry must have been related and must have been from Berkeley Co. VA, but again there is not a single documented proof for this, and not one single person claims that there is. Sam Maner certainly does not think that his line was from Berkeley Co. VA. A D.A.R. pension application is not a proof within itself, nor is any list. Applications and even those that are accepted, and lists no matter how great they look, are not proofs. They are only as good as the proofs that went into them. The early applications to D.A. R. were accepted without the more stringent proofs that are now required. I don't doubt that Maj. Hugh Henry was at Kings Mountain. I do say there is not one shred of evidence that he was born in Berkeley Co. VA or any particular county in VA either. He was born in VA, but we don't know where. Sam will verify this. He has verified it to me in person. Sam's grandmother worked on the family tree most of her life. She is now deceased. Sam grew up working on his tree because of her involvement, but much of what they have is from oral tradition. Sam has also gotten one of my cousins into the Sons of the Revolution on my ancestor Casper Cable (Goebell in German) who was a Hessian soldier and fought for the British! We have a family legend that he fought for the Americans after deserting the Hessians/British. If so he was later recaptured, and again deserted from the British at John's Island, SC. (There are great proofs from records released in our Bicentennial Year that were furnished to us by Germany. Casper Cable was captured at Trenton, NJ, when Washington's troops crossed the Delaware. There is also great proof from the same source about the date of his desertion from Johns Island, SC, the people who deserted with him, the date, etc.) There is not one single shred of evidence that he ever served for the Americans, and I would be ashamed to be in the Sons of the Revolution based on a Hessian soldier. (I am not ashamed of my ancestor. I would just join an organization based on his service as a Hessian soldier.) The application says he served the Americans, but again that does not make it a fact! I just want to see documentation to back up any family legends no matter how strong they are. I think the world of Sam Maner for the dissemination of the genealogical material that he has put on-line for others to share, but he knows that I am much more careful on documentation than he is, and I shall remain so. I don't care where any particular Henry family originated. I will be quite happy with the locations wherever they were as soon as we have some proofs. Even strong circumstantial proofs will do if no more concrete ones are found. Actually Sam Maner's group of descendants of Samuel Henry and his son Maj. Hugh Henry always claimed that they were from Hanover Co. I had never heard them claim that they were from Berkeley Co. VA. By the way, Sam is no longer in charge of those pages, and I am not sure if he can edit them! You may check with him to verify anything that I am writing. Here is his email: genealogy@sevierlibrary.org Also there is no contest about who is right and who is wrong. Genealogy (at least as I view it) is about finding facts on our ancestors. Judy's statement that there is no documented proof for where Samuel Henry or his children were born (except it is accepted that the sons were born in VA) is true. Despite what anyone may have put on a D.A. R. application, there is no documentary evidence anywhere showing a birthplace for Maj. Hugh Henry. I would be as happy as anyone else to see such a proof, and I know that Sam Maner would be too. I am sending Sam Maner a copy of this email. I love him, and he knows it, and I'll not say anything about anyone that I wouldn't say straight to them. Doris Noland Parton Dandridge, TN Henry DNA Project Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: <pattee@charter.net> To: <HENRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: [HENRY] Henry DNA Project First Results > Doris, > I am NOT going to debate the issue. Who ever posted the info for Major > Hugh Henry on the Sevier County website may either know more or Judy Henry > is wrong! > This is the SEVIER CO., TN LIBRARY WEBSITE SCROLL DOWN FOR MAJOR HUGH > HENRY: > http://www.sevierlibrary.org/genealogy/militialist/revwar.htm > FROM THE SITE: > Henry, Hugh > Born April 1756 in Berkeley County Virginia Service Soldier In Virginia > And Again in North Carolina Served under Capt. Bledsoe in Battle of Kings > Mountain and under Col. Sevier at Battle of Boyd's Creek Married Mary Long > 1st, Mary Upton 2nd. died March 1838. > DAR Patriot Index Cent. Ed. Page 1396 > Buried Hugh Henry Cemetery. Kodak > I've had a copy of both my William & John Herny's Rev. War pension > applications including Elizabeth Jone Henry's widow application from the > Washington Archives for numerous years. > Patti >> Major Hugh Henry nor any of the Samuel Henry line was born in Berkley Co. >> VA >> so far as anyone knows . Another line of Sevier Co. TN Henrys, your >> line, >> William Henry of Jones Cove and his brother John, born Rev. War soldiers, >> were born in Berkley Co. VA. There is no definitive proof where Samuel >> Henry >> and his son Maj. Hugh Henry were born. There is no Rev. War pension for >> either of them. They were born in VA. Judy received her information >> from >> Sam, and when I checked with Sam he had no proof of the Hanover as a >> place >> of birth. I believe that the closest he can come to where they were in >> VA >> was that a descendant who went to AL put in a book "Goodspeeds? >> possibly" >> that Samuel Henry's family came from PA to near Richmond VA to Sevier Co. >> TN. I have not seen a single proof of documentation as to where they >> were >> in VA or where they were born. We see severaal mentions to a Samuel Henry >> in >> VA, but we don't get any clues to show which one of them he might be. >> >> In regards to your Henrys, I have transcribed Revolutionary Soldier John >> Henry of Cocke Co.'s pension, and I will post in this summer. He fought >> at >> Yorktown under George Washington and General Marcus (whom I believe was >> the >> Marquise de LaFayette from looking up information on the battles). No >> wife >> and children are listed in his pension, but that doesn't mean he didn't >> have >> a wife and children. It is ususally only in the widow's pension files >> that >> we find such information. He like his brother William of Jones Cove did >> put >> they were born in "Barkley" Co. VA which we know is Berkley, and forgive >> me >> if I spell any of them wrong as I am doing this from memory on a Sat. >> morning! >> >> I have a copy of Judy Henry's book, and she and I correspond several >> times >> a week. This is what Judy says in her well researched book about Samuel >> Henry's place of birth: >> >> Samuel Henry, Sr. >> >> >> >> Samuel1 Henry. The traditional date used for the birth of Samuel Henry, >> Sr. >> is about 1728 to 1730, though no document exists to prove when he was >> born. >> He may have been born in Scotland, Ireland, Pennsylvania or Virginia[i] >> and >> died, perhaps, about 1797[ii] in Carter or Washington County, Tennessee. >> He >> married Rachel Unknown, who may have died by 1801. >> >> >> >> >> >> According to Aurelia Cate Dawson, a descendant of Hugh Henry, there was a >> family tradition that "an old man - Henry with five or six sons settled >> in >> one of the upper counties of present East Tennessee in the early >> settlement >> of this country and that they were the progenitors of the East Tennessee >> Henrys."[i] Early Tennessee records proved that Samuel Henry, his wife, >> Rachel, and at least six of his sons, William, James, Hugh, John, Samuel, >> Jr. and Ezekiel, settled in the Watagua River Valley of what is now the >> Johnson City area of Eastern Tennessee by about 1775. They are an >> official >> First Family of Tennessee.[ii] >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> [i] Dawson, Our East Tennessee Kinsmen, p. 1. >> >> [ii] East Tennessee Historical Society. First Families of Tennessee, p. >> 174-175. >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> [i] Possible locations for his birth gleaned from undocumented research >> clues. >> >> [ii] Ray, Tennessee Cousins. He most certainly had died by 1801 when his >> sons sold his final property. >> >> >> >> You can purchase her book on a CD at a very reasonable price. If >> interested >> email me for her email if you don't have it already. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <pattee@charter.net> >> To: <HENRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:48 PM >> Subject: [HENRY] Henry DNA Project First Results >> >> >> > Doris and all, >> > For those who are researching the Samuel Henry line, which has been >> > referred to for the DNA study through Judy Henry's book. Judy states >> > Major >> > Hugh Henry Sr. s/o Samuel & Rachel Henry was born in Hanover Co., VA. >> > Per: >> > Major Hugh Henry Sr. Rev. War Pension (it's my understanding a copy is >> > at >> > the Sevier Co., TN library) states he was born in Berkeley County, >> > Virginia. The Sevier County library's web site has a list of Rev. War >> > soldiers and where they where born. Major Hugh Henry's is listed. >> > This may assist those who have been looking in the wrong area for >> > additional records. There is too much of a distance to be able to >> > locate >> > any records. It's very possible Samuel Henry may have been there for >> > several years and all of his children where born there. I'm not >> > researching that line at the present. >> > Patti > > > ==== HENRY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from Mail Mode send a message to: > HENRY-L-request@rootsweb.com [HENRY-D-request@rootsweb.com for Digest > Mode] that contains (in the body of the message) ONLY the command > unsubscribe.Subject line: Unsubscribe > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I have no dog in this fight, but I thought it was worth pointing out that Berkeley County, Virginia did not become a county until 1772, when it was formed from Frederick County, and in 1863 it became part of West Virginia. Since Hugh Henry was born in 1756, perhaps Frederick County should be the focus of the research as to where he was born. Also, one of my non-Henry Revolutionary War ancestors enlisted in Berkeley County in 1777, although he was born in York County, Pennsylvania. Those researching where Hugh Henry was born might also want to consider Pennsylvania. That is also the likely birthplace of my William Henry of Tryon County, North Carolina, who had sons who fought at the Battle of King's Mountain, one of whom was mortally wounded. For my William Henry, see John Gillon's website at http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=thegillons&id=I4484 Robert Strong

We sure need a Henry from your line for our dna test! We need one or more male Henrys from every Henry line to test! Doris Noland Parton administrator of the Henry DNA project at familytreedna.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <larter@gil.com.au> To: <HENRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: [HENRY] Re: Henry > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRi.2ACEB/1.62.83 > > Message Board Post: > > Charles Means ,I have a Henry born in Moneystaghan near Ballymena Counrey > of Derry N.E.Ireland who I feel may be related to your Henry. > Would you please make contact. > > > ==== HENRY Mailing List ==== > http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ > Rootsweb Guide to doing genealogy > Lessons for self-help > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Major Hugh Henry nor any of the Samuel Henry line was born in Berkley Co. VA so far as anyone knows . Another line of Sevier Co. TN Henrys, your line, William Henry of Jones Cove and his brother John, born Rev. War soldiers, were born in Berkley Co. VA. There is no definitive proof where Samuel Henry and his son Maj. Hugh Henry were born. There is no Rev. War pension for either of them. They were born in VA. Judy received her information from Sam, and when I checked with Sam he had no proof of the Hanover as a place of birth. I believe that the closest he can come to where they were in VA was that a descendant who went to AL put in a book "Goodspeeds? possibly" that Samuel Henry's family came from PA to near Richmond VA to Sevier Co. TN. I have not seen a single proof of documentation as to where they were in VA or where they were born. We see severaal mentions to a Samuel Henry in VA, but we don't get any clues to show which one of them he might be. In regards to your Henrys, I have transcribed Revolutionary Soldier John Henry of Cocke Co.'s pension, and I will post in this summer. He fought at Yorktown under George Washington and General Marcus (whom I believe was the Marquise de LaFayette from looking up information on the battles). No wife and children are listed in his pension, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a wife and children. It is ususally only in the widow's pension files that we find such information. He like his brother William of Jones Cove did put they were born in "Barkley" Co. VA which we know is Berkley, and forgive me if I spell any of them wrong as I am doing this from memory on a Sat. morning! I have a copy of Judy Henry's book, and she and I correspond several times a week. This is what Judy says in her well researched book about Samuel Henry's place of birth: Samuel Henry, Sr. Samuel1 Henry. The traditional date used for the birth of Samuel Henry, Sr. is about 1728 to 1730, though no document exists to prove when he was born. He may have been born in Scotland, Ireland, Pennsylvania or Virginia[i] and died, perhaps, about 1797[ii] in Carter or Washington County, Tennessee. He married Rachel Unknown, who may have died by 1801. According to Aurelia Cate Dawson, a descendant of Hugh Henry, there was a family tradition that "an old man - Henry with five or six sons settled in one of the upper counties of present East Tennessee in the early settlement of this country and that they were the progenitors of the East Tennessee Henrys."[i] Early Tennessee records proved that Samuel Henry, his wife, Rachel, and at least six of his sons, William, James, Hugh, John, Samuel, Jr. and Ezekiel, settled in the Watagua River Valley of what is now the Johnson City area of Eastern Tennessee by about 1775. They are an official First Family of Tennessee.[ii] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [i] Dawson, Our East Tennessee Kinsmen, p. 1. [ii] East Tennessee Historical Society. First Families of Tennessee, p. 174-175. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [i] Possible locations for his birth gleaned from undocumented research clues. [ii] Ray, Tennessee Cousins. He most certainly had died by 1801 when his sons sold his final property. You can purchase her book on a CD at a very reasonable price. If interested email me for her email if you don't have it already. ----- Original Message ----- From: <pattee@charter.net> To: <HENRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:48 PM Subject: [HENRY] Henry DNA Project First Results > Doris and all, > For those who are researching the Samuel Henry line, which has been > referred to for the DNA study through Judy Henry's book. Judy states Major > Hugh Henry Sr. s/o Samuel & Rachel Henry was born in Hanover Co., VA. Per: > Major Hugh Henry Sr. Rev. War Pension (it's my understanding a copy is at > the Sevier Co., TN library) states he was born in Berkeley County, > Virginia. The Sevier County library's web site has a list of Rev. War > soldiers and where they where born. Major Hugh Henry's is listed. > This may assist those who have been looking in the wrong area for > additional records. There is too much of a distance to be able to locate > any records. It's very possible Samuel Henry may have been there for > several years and all of his children where born there. I'm not > researching that line at the present. > Patti > > > ==== HENRY Mailing List ==== > http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ > Rootsweb Guide to doing genealogy > Lessons for self-help > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRi.2ACEB/1.62.82.95 Message Board Post: Charles Means I have a Henry born in Moneystaghan near Ballymena Counrey of Derry N.E.Ireland that I feel is connected to your Henry. Could I get you to make contact.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRi.2ACEB/1.62.83 Message Board Post: Charles Means ,I have a Henry born in Moneystaghan near Ballymena Counrey of Derry N.E.Ireland who I feel may be related to your Henry. Would you please make contact.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Henry, DeLeslie, Bartels, Flattery Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JRi.2ACEB/3242 Message Board Post: I am looking for information about Anne DeLeslie, daughter of Bernard and Julia (Flattery) Henry. Anne married Mr. DeLeslie before 1869. In January of that year (1869) she married again, a Gerhard Bartels in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Please contact me if you have any information about this family. Thanks!

Doris and all, For those who are researching the Samuel Henry line, which has been referred to for the DNA study through Judy Henry's book. Judy states Major Hugh Henry Sr. s/o Samuel & Rachel Henry was born in Hanover Co., VA. Per: Major Hugh Henry Sr. Rev. War Pension (it's my understanding a copy is at the Sevier Co., TN library) states he was born in Berkeley County, Virginia. The Sevier County library's web site has a list of Rev. War soldiers and where they where born. Major Hugh Henry's is listed. This may assist those who have been looking in the wrong area for additional records. There is too much of a distance to be able to locate any records. It's very possible Samuel Henry may have been there for several years and all of his children where born there. I'm not researching that line at the present. Patti

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gorman,Davitt,Henry Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRi.2ACEB/3241 Message Board Post: I'm looking for information on Frederick L. Henry Married to Honor Davitt.(1915) They moved to Little Falls,NY. and had 7 children.Frederick b.? died at the age of 2 after choking on an apple.The other children were Robert L. b.1917-d.1968,Thomas E. b.1919-d.2001,Mary M. b.1921-d.1997,Jeanne E. b.1925-d.2002,Frederick Davitt b.1931-d.1997, and Harold Henry still living.They moved to Utica,NY in the 50's.Robert and Thomas were both RailRoad Engineers.Also I belive my grandfather was one too.(Frederick L. Henry)

Looking for descendants of Velma hammond and Roscoe Patrick henry. Walter Henry and Catherine Roberts were their names as of 1962 in "Our East Tennessee Kinsmen". Any help would certainly be appreciated. Thanks, Timothy Henry

Does anybody have any information about a Pansy Sorenson, nee Henry? She lived much of her life in Chelan Co. Washington. She was active in the Eastern Star. I have some info about her. 1900 Census shows she was born in Nov. of 1889 in Washington. Her parents were Thomas J. and Augusta Henry. Pansy married Anton "Tony" Sorenson on Aug. 25, 1908 in Chelan Co. Washington. I am trying to see if she is related to my Samuel Henry and his Daughters Helen, Hazel and Alberta Henry. -Mark Vernon Seattle WA

I'm looking for information about the Henry family in Georgetown, SC between 1800 and 1820, especially land or tax records. If someone has a data source for Georgetown, SC during that time period, will you please take a look for HENRY. Thank you, Caroline Byng

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Henry and Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRi.2ACEB/3240 Message Board Post: Looking for the Henry and Smith family from that area. I want info on the family members so I can make a book for my children. f. Voyd V. Henry gf. Doran D. Henry both were born in Mills,Co. Texas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Henry, Jones, Cline Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JRi.2ACEB/3239 Message Board Post: I'd like to learn who were the parents of this man, as well as where & when he was born & died. He died right after the end of the Civil War, possibly in Clay Co, Al. His wife was Mary/Pollie Jones, married where & when? They had 3 children: William Jones Henry, b. 1860; Sarah J./Sallie Henry, b. c. 1863; & another son. Mary, William J. & Sarah J. moved to Tx in the late 1860s. In the 1870 census, Mary is already married to J. W. Cline & living in Washington Co, Tx.

The first three test results for the Henry project are in. These dealt with members of two different Henry families who lived only a few miles apart on a small creek that runs through Jefferson Co. and into Sevier Co. TN, Dumplin Creek. We knew from research that the two groups could not join until at least about 1700 if at all. The DNA evidence showed there was 0% possibility that there was a common ancestor between the two groups in at least 600 years. There is a calculator into which I then plugged the research that we knew they didn't join until 1700, and the 0% probability that there was a common ancestor between the two groups jumped to 800 yrs! One group descends from Samuel Henry ( see http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/HENRY/1999-03/0922411563 ). The other group descends from Henry Henry (see http://genforum.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?Parton::henry::5121.html ) A correction to this is that although son John was in the Rev. War, none of this family was at Kings Mountain. The Samuel Henry group came out with a Western European haplotype. I believe this matches their Scots or Ulster Scots legend. The Henry Henry group has a legend of the immigrant coming over as a cooper on a ship from Ireland. The Henry Henry group has a Nordic haplotype which is not just Norway, Sweden, Finland, but also shared by the vast majority of the native Irish. I foolishly first labeled my project with the empahasis on the Henry families who came to East TN. I cannot change the wording on that. The site won't let me, but I welcome and encourage all Henrys of all ethnic groups, states, countries, to join the project. We have four more kits in and at the labs. The Henry Project Website with results: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/HenryEastTNVAPAetc/ Unique Y-DNA12 marker strings: 2 Result Strings Count 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 2 R1b haplotype 15 24 15 10 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 1 I haplotype The last column means that two people had that string, and one had the second sring. To join the Henry Project: Go to http://wwww.familytreedna.com Go to box on top right and type in Henry. Three projects show up. Go to the Henry one which is the first one. I would put in the direct link, but it is a hundred miles long, full of weird characters that would be hard to type in! Administrator: Doris Noland Parton tenntree@direcway.com

Bob Lester have week exchanged emails before? My brother in law, Bob Henry, descends from Martin Henry (Henrich) also of York Co., PA born about 1805.

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Surnames: henry henrys Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/JRi.2ACEB/3238 Message Board Post: i hope this message posting doesnt get taken down. please copy it just in case, think about emailing it to a friend for their opinion. especially those interested in family trees and genealogy. i came across something quite by acccident. to begin with it gave me nightmares, but i got my head round it all now. i can make sense of it. if you have your tree as full as possible, add the dates to a one year diary david. i am in no doubt whatsoever you will find what i found. looking into the past like this, it isnt scary, or wierd. i think we should all know where we come from. i didnt have a clue what i was doing when i started to add all those dates in the diary. its groundbreaking definately. if science can show you when you pass into your next life using dna, i can show you how to find where you re-appear. using a pen and paper. dna will never tell you that. how can science study something not yet born. knowing when you pass into your next life has its advantages. i dont have to spend my life paying into a pension i wont cash. i only need to buy one lot of life insurance. i know the year. i know my children will live much longer than my 35 years. them knowing theid dad discovered this, is what ensures they never need worry about money ever. i can prove re incarnation. i can prove we all pass thru the sex! es, and the colours. i can prove if you do something bad, it comes back at you twice as bad. to someone you cherish on the anniversary. ive spent the last 3 years, since 911 trying to figure out what it all means. im now at a point where i know. i can teach what ive learnt. lesson one, is add your dates to a one year diary. if you did it off your own back, this would take you 3 years maybe more to figure out. i know what you will find come the end of those 3 years, i can teach my findings in a few weeks. in 1996, my dad gave me a copy of our family tree. sadly he passed away that year. in 2000, i bought my first pc and began transferring all my information onto it. adding the dates in the diary was meant to make the job quicker. the book ive written accompanies the akiens family tree. as many stories about each person in our history. i will be more than happy to forward a copy on to you. thousands of true stories with photos and document proof. i hope to finance publishing my book on a website online. for free. how can you charge people, when this book will show the world how to find their lost loved ones. i can take the whole worlds fear of death and the sadness of death away for good. if you could pinpoint exactly who ad what you did in say 1750, would you want to know..? that person you were in 1750, died. just like you will and i will. you got back up a fair few times since, and you will again. so long as you dont kill anyone. your soul hits the end of the road. when you! read of all the events that hapened to the akiens, how colourful our story is, you`ll understand much better. my book will be an instant hit all over the world. the story of the akiens, is as close to out of this world as our name would suggest. i could paste all the dates i have from my tree on here, but theyre colour coded and that wont show up in this text. the book ive written is far too big to email, and would take too long to break it up into emailable sections. if you would like a copy, please let me know how you would like it. printed or on disk. i wouldnt recommend reading this book on screen. once you start you wont be able to stop, and it will give you headaches. it gave me enough writing it nonstop the last 3 years. what you find on this website is about 1% of the finished book. which doesnt actually finish, until i pass away. then my kids will carry it on. then their kids will and so on. the more families that begin to do this, the better their kids will turn ! out as adults. this will geive our kids a greater sense of pride in wh o they are, because they know exactly where they come from. if you want me to give you an example of real live de ja vu, spread out missing a few generations, this is just one example. in 1913, my great uncle jesse fell from a very tall chimney. he was an 18 year old steeplejack. the wind took him frrom the top of a chimney, cracked halfway up by a bolt of lightening. as he came over the side of the chimney, he managed to get both his feet into the wall. he kicked out of it instinctively, into the wind. turning himself in midair, hoping to be able to dive further out into a tree, missing the boiler house roofs below. he didnt find a soft option that day. he was killed. i was born with a weak chest, and when i dream im falling, my arms are wide, chest proud. the ground never comes. one final thought to what helped me in the beginning, what gotr my attention most of all the dates i came across, was january 23rd. my birthday, and my twins birthday. one perfect little boy and on! e perfect litle girl. i know already ive been reborn. when i ship out, i know thats where ive already woke back up. they dont know it yet. neither does my mum , sis, or my bros. you read this before they do. if i tried to tell them what id found, theyd be callin in the white coats. i need to be tellin strangers this news online, its the fastest way to spead the news all over the world isnt it. im not sad im not going to live long, i know when, and i have to prepare my family. when they understand no one ever really dies, they wont be sad either. ideally, id like them to find out before its too late. then we can all laugh about it as i die. beats all that sadness. if you o this how i have, when you find yourself with 3 possible relatives you come across, the dates will make it easy, the moire you have. the more dates you have, the more able you are to discount the wrong 2. it turns it into a multiple choice instead of a blind alley, that could take you months out of the way down a wrong turn. i went mad trying to figure all this out , i even spent time in an institution because of it. that didnt change any of the dates id found. i had to carry on in secret without my family knowing. they know im writing a book about the family, but they havent got a clue of the content. they all think im grieving for my dad still. i got over dad a long while ago. if youre still reading this at this point i would recommend you read my book now. that institution could have a bed with your name on it if you dont read it. this finding is only one finding of thousands. its not the best bit of the book by a long way. or the most mind blowing. the stuff in here is enough to send anyone up the wall. and even off it, like great uncle jesse. i wasnt there, but i know how jesse came down. in 1996, when my dad lay dying slowly of bone cancer, he laughed his way through it believe it or not. to make it easier for us his kids. i had twins born at 38 weeks in 1996. 38 weeks later, dad passed aw! ay in front of me. from the happiest man alive to the saddest in just 38 weeks. another funny thing i found in the dates. on september 4th 1738, thomas akines was born. a twin. richard his brother died at 4 1/2 years old. the surving twin, my ggggggranddad, went on to name his first son after his lost brother. the son richard, changed our name from akines to akiens. that was the last time our name changed. thomas akiens born 1738, died on april 18th 1838. my dad passeed into his next life on september 4th, laurence akiens. LOL to his friends. that was dad all over. he laughed his whole life, even as a 5 year old boy stood on broken chimney tops. like jesse did that age. the last time our name changed, a twin changed it. i have twins born on my own birthday. what does akiens change to alphabetically...? my oldest daughter, was born on april 18th, lauren, named after my dad. the equasion roughly translated into lamens, is thomas was born the date dad died, and died the date lauren was born. they were just as much fated to be born on those dates as thomas was in 1738. in short, we`re not in contro! l of our own destinies, because we dont know much destiny we have in this world. if we knew, we could plan it better. we can even plan the next one better, if everyone knows about it. when realisation hits the world re incarnation takes you through the colours, it ends racism. its taken 3 years of round the clock working, on my pc, in graveyards, public records offices, archives. in 1996, my dad gave me a copy of our family tree. very sadly he passed away the year we began re writing our story. dad wanted to add as many stories to each name, because he could see the same i as i do, they were worth more than just a few dates and a name on one line. they were people who went through a lot for us. like we do our great great grandchildren we maybe wont ever see. i carried on after he died and now its ready. its free dont worry, but i dont have many copies. its too big s file to email. disk by snailmails the only realistic way to send it. 300mb is the size of the first book. like i said, im dying, so why do i need to be worried about money, when i see its more important to make sure i dont take what i know with me. JHC goldenballsspice@yahoo.co.uk