This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D223C45F73B719830DE07BB8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List Members, Want to apologize for the incorrect list of my ancestors that I sent to the List. Received this forwarded message and I believe the information from John is correct. Not sure now, how much of what I sent is correct and will research it all over again. Thanks, Laura --------------D223C45F73B719830DE07BB8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ruchj@magma.ca> Delivered-To: lollieshoe@mail-phnx.uswest.net Received: (qmail 14737 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 1999 21:06:01 -0000 Received: from mail5.uswest.net (204.147.80.23) by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 21:06:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 5905 invoked by alias); 9 Nov 1999 21:06:00 -0000 Delivered-To: lollieshoe@uswest.net Received: (qmail 5867 invoked by uid 0); 9 Nov 1999 21:06:00 -0000 Received: from mx1.magmacom.com (206.191.0.217) by mail5.uswest.net with SMTP; 9 Nov 1999 21:06:00 -0000 Received: from mail2.magma.ca (mail2x.magma.ca [206.191.0.220]) by mx1.magmacom.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15301 for <lollieshoe@uswest.net>; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 206.191.63.92 (port-2-92.magma.ca [206.191.63.92]) by mail2.magma.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07672 for <lollieshoe@uswest.net>; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:05:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38288F83.5287@magma.ca> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 16:17:55 -0500 From: John & Sherry <ruchj@magma.ca> Reply-To: ruchj@magma.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lollieshoe@uswest.net Subject: Your line/my line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Laura Your line has been forwarded to me, and I find it interesting. However, I must say with much regret that the BARON VON HAYDER connection was a complete fabrication by a mischievous member of the family in the 1880s. I spent considerable time in the 1970s trying to trace this, and I found that Cleveland Hendershot, who invented the story, did not have a scrap of evidence for the claim. It was an unpleasant surprise for me, since I had believed it from the time I was a child. The name and family HAYDERSCHATT was from Luxembourg, and they became extinct in the male line in the mid-1600s. I found a count in Paris whose ancestors inherited their estates -- which no longer exist. If we are ever to find other noble ancestors, we are going to have to work long and hard, and spend a lot of money. We share Casper, but my line comes from Christophers brother Peter b.1733, Peter 1775, Peter 1813, William Henry 1842, eter Harcourt 1881, Winnifred 1907, marr. John Ruch Sr. 1928 -- all remained in Welland Co. Christopher went broke, and emigrated to Peel County, Upper Canada (now Ontario) Canada about 1805. Many of his descendants either did not come with him or moved back to the U.S. John Ruch --------------D223C45F73B719830DE07BB8--