This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IMi.2ACEB/94.97.168.169.170.1.1 Message Board Post: 1920 Baldwin Co., AL census, p.24, Lillian Tship: Helton, George W. 47 yrs., male, born in AL, father born in New Jersey, mother b. in Fla, occupation fisherman. Alice 24f b. in AL, parents born in AL James 3m b. in FL George 2m b. in AL Chester 1m b. in AL Skillman, Sarah 65f mother-in-law, b. in FL, father in SC, mother in NC I think the census taker got the birthplaces wrong, as Alice's father was probably born in NJ. Lillian is a small community on the west side of Perdido Bay where Hwy 98 crosses the bay; the bridge is called the Lillian Bridge. There is a Lillian Church and Lillian Elementary School about a half mile north of Hwy 98. About 4.5 miles west of the bay is county road 97 which goes south to Perdido Beach. "Place Names in Alabama", Virginia O. Foscue, gives Perdido Bay as being named abt. 1512 by one of Ponce de Leon's explorers. The word is the past participle of "to lose" in Spanish; maybe they were lost or had been lost. 1930 Escambia Co., FL census, p. 223, Millview precinct, a Chester of the right age: Helton, John F. 64m Rebecca 63f Chester 12m nephew Modeste 9f niece (could this be Maude?) Dempsey 7m nephew June 5f niece Widowed daughter Annie Shaffer is in household with children. Their father was born in PA. John F. Helton married Rebecca Childress in 1885. 1930 Escambia Co., FL census, p. 225, Millview precinct: Helton, Charles M. 56m Bessie 50f father born in New Jersey (Bessie Lee Skillman?) Helen daughter Winifred dau Quitman son Lovedell dau Hans son J. D. 15m nephew Hilliard 13m nephew J. D. could be James; I can't find a George who might fit unless the Hilliard is George. 1880 Baldwin Co., AL census, p. 241, Camp Powell; this family looks like it includes George and John and Charles above: Helton, James 35m p. 94 Kupfrians Park, Escambia Co., FL in 1900 Dicie A. 34f John 15m p. 94 Kupfrians Park, Escambia Co., FL in 1900; his father next door James 13m Mary 11f Henry 10m p.323 Camp Powell in 1900; Charles 8m p. 321 Camp Powell in 1900 Alexander 6m p.38 pct.3, Escambia Co., FL in 1910 (Alexander Hilton) George 4m probably p. 93 Kupfrians Park, Escambia Co., FL in 1900 Martha 1m All born in Ala. Look up Charles Mose Helton in the family trees at Ancestry.com; says he was married to Bessie Lee Skillman. Then check out Membrance Helton on this message board; Henry Co., AL and Covington Co., AL are mentioned and an Indian heritage. Membrance bought land in Covington Co. I didn't see a record in Henry Co. He is in Santa Rosa Co., FL in 1880 living with a son named Jason. 1910 census for people I think are members of the above: p.43 Escambia Co., FL, precinct 3: John W. & Charles M.; this John looks like it could be George!! p.31 Escambia Co., FL, precinct 2: John F., wife Rebecca If you think this is your Helton family, I will be glad to e-mail images of the census. Genealogy is a hobby after 10 years of tracing family history. The Helton family is a great family to research; they have spunk and fire in the belly. I have copies of court records from Lumpkin Co., GA of a James Helton tried for murder. Abraham Helton, my wife's most ancient ancestor so far, drew land in the Ga lottery as a Rev. soldier; I later found records where it was claimed he was neither white nor married and his land grant was revoked.. Calvin Helton, another of my sife's ancestors and also named as Bark Chicken in the court record, was tried for stealing the horse of Gen. Eli McConnell. Gen. McConnell's house still stands in Cherokee Co., GA and he had a mill near it. I have walked on the foundations of a mill he later bought which made rope from cotton fiber. In the Atlanta Constitution I found a James Helton of Carroll Co., GA who put a sheet over him to scare a black man and! was knifed to death by the man. Also in Carroll Co., Ga, a Burnadette Helton shot an occupying soldier who was entering her house during Reconstruction (after the Civil War, you know, the Destruction of the South). She was later pardoned by Gov. Smith (I think I have the Governor's name right) saying she acted under duress and also noting that she was the only white woman held in the Ga. State Penitentiary at the time. E-mail me at l_cotton@netzero.net or L50cotton@aol.com if you would like further assistance or just more tidbits. Dahlonega was a Cherokee word meaning yellow or yellow rock; Dahlonega, GA was the site of America's first gold rush. Lanny Cotton