Thank you very much for the Helton Link and for Dottie's email address, John. The only clue I have is that my Great Grandmother, Mary Burton b. abt 1879 in Rogersville, TN, stated on her ssi application that her mother was Elizabeth Lype. I found Mary in the home of her parent's John and Elizabeth Burton and the mother in law, Mary C. Helton was living with them in 1880, she was 45 years of age. I don't know why Elizabeth is a Lype and her mother a Helton. I have never found a marriage record for John Burton and Elizabeth Lype, but I have found one for John Burton and Sarah Helton, right date. So the only thing I can think of is that Elizabeth had taken on the Lype name or else the Helton name when her mother married the Helton..I just don't know. My grandfather said that Mary Burton's grandmother was a Cupp/Cope and I've looked for a Mary Cupp/cope who married a Lype or a Helton..I've yet to find a marriage between the two or three. Here is the Census Record exerpts of the Burton's and the Helton's and Lype's that lived near each other..Most of these people stayed right in this area thru 1900. I have those Census Records as well, if you would like to see them, let me know. Let me know if you know of these Helton's listed here..I know some were said to have served in the Union army with the wild Wm. Sizemore in the 13th Calvary. I do know that there must had been a relationship with the Kleppers, A Klepper was the bondsman for my great Grandmother, Mary Burton when she married Charles Reynolds in 1896. ================================ 1860 dist. 10 Hawkins County, TN ----------------------------------------------------------- 220 212 Burton Isaac 32 M (could be Wm.'s Brother) " Mary 30 F Burton Nellie 11 F " Wesley 9 M " Martha 7 F " Bettie 4 F " Perry 2 M " Matilda 3mos F 221 213 Jones Greenalle 27 M " Mary 25 F Shanks Sarah E 5 F 222 214 Courtney Samuel 20 M " Lydia 19 F 223 Unoccupied 224 215 Winsted Rose 35 F " Joseph 17 M " Frances 15 M " George 13 M " David 11 M " Margaret 8 F " Roseann 5 F 225 216 Winsted William 62 M " Elizabeth 67 F " Catherina 30 F 226 217 Brooks William 30 M " Catherina 25 F " Sarah 8 F " Mary 6 F " James 5 M " Thomas 3 M 227 218 Amix Cornelius 32 M " Elizabeth 26 F " Frances 4 F " Eliza 3 F " Jeff 1 M 228 219 Kepper Peter 45 M " Polly 46 F " Larura 30 F " Susan 21 F " Joseph 16 M " Neily 17 M " Phoebe 15 F Klepper Francis 13 M " Martha 11 F " Sarah 8 F " Barbara 5 F 229 220 Klepper John 26 M " Adelia 17 F " Hiram 5mos M 230 221 Gillemwater Margaret 40 F " Ham 14 M " Isaac 12 M " William 12 M " Susanna 8 F " Thomas 5 M 231 222 Eidson Eden 61 M " Margaret 31 F " Elizabeth 28 F Davis Andrew 12 M 232 223 Isenbarger Benj 30 M " Elizabeth 29 F " Micheal 6 M " Madison 5 M " Jacob 3 M " Mary 1 F " Lizzle 6mos F Miller Madgeline 25 F 233 224 Owens George 25 M " Catherine 24 F 234 225 Reeves Artesmesa 45 F " James 19 M " Mary 7 F " Winfield 9 M 235 226 Moulsby David 24 M " Sarah 22 F Anderson Jeff 16 M 236 227 Pilant James 26 M " Winnie 32 F " George 4 M " Mahala 2 F 237 Unoccupied 238 228 Howe John 66 M Howe Sally 61 F " Joseph 21 M 239 Unoccupied 240 229 Isenbarger Simion 40 M " Mary 38 F " Sarah 14 F " Mary 13 F " Racheal 11 F " David 9 M " lizzie 7 F " Orleana 5 F " Matilda 3 F Davis Joseph 14 M 241 230 Isenbarger Jacob 69 M " Elizabeth 66 F " Martha 20 F Fletcher Isaiah 10 M 242 231 Isenbarger Jacob 26 M " Margaret 25 F " Andrew 3 M " Henry 2 M " Martha 6mos F 243 Unoccupied 244 232 Gillemwater Isaac 35 M " Nancy 24 F " Annie 8 F " Larmia ? 10mos F 245 233 Gillemwater Joel 42 M " Mary 32 F " Orvill 10 M " Sarah 4 F 246 234 Gillemwater Thomas 70 M " Polly 51 F " Eleanor 31 F " Mary 30 F " Thomas 15 M Robinson John 5 M " Sarah 3 F 247 235 Lear Samuel ? 34 M " Susan 26 F Lear Elizabeth 12 F " Mary 10 F " Sarah 8 F " John 4 M " Nancy 3 F " Joseph 2 M 248 236 Gillemwater Asbury ? M " Pattie ? F " Willie ? M " James ? M " Mary ? F " Edward ? M " William ? M Shopshire William 14 M 249 237 Johnson Moses 31 M " Sarah 24 F " Henderson 10 M " Annie 9 F " Simpson 7 M " Enoch 4 M 250 238 Stapleton Harry ? 31 M " Catherine 32 F " Roseanna 9 F " Perry 7 M " Sallie 3 F " Mary 1 F 251 239 Sizemore Henry 25 M " Catherine 21 F " James 1 M 252 240 Cornet Motgomery 36 M " Margaret 40 F " Elizabeth 12 F " John 10 M " Sarah 2 F " William 6 M " Rufus 4 M 253 Unoccupied 254 Unoccupied 255 241 Williams Hardin 33 M " Mary 45 F Williams Bettie 28 F " Lavitha 21 F " Mary 16 F " Susan 13 F " Eliza 7 F " Catherine 5 F 256 242 Armstrong James 39 M Hider Margaret 64 F 257 243 Armstrong John 80 M " Jane 47 F " Elizabeth 45 M " Sarah 42 F " Vivenra? 36 F 258 244 Payne John 40 M " Catherine 34 F " Elijah 17 M " Rebecca 14 F " William 12 M " Joseph 9 M " Sallie 7 F " Victoria 6 F 259 245 Hider John ? 28 M " Sallie 30 F " Robert 5 M " John 4 M " William 2 M 260 246 Fortner Elijah 66 M " Martha 60 F 261 247 Lawson Omla ? 22 M " Bettie 22 F " Thomas 2 M " Willaiam 2mos M 262 248 Alvis George 24 M " Sarah 24 F " William 3 M " Moses 1 M 263 Unoccupied 264 249 Fortner Samuel 36 M " Lousiana 25 F " Elijah 4 M Fortner Thomas 1 M wheeler Alice 48 F 265 250 Courtney Isaac 36 M " Mary 34 M Rutledge William 72 M 266 251 Kessenger Andrew 40 M " Mary 36 F " William 16 M " Mary E 14 F " James 9 M " Solomon 7 M " Noah 6mos M 267 252 Helton Anges 70 M " Milly 30 F Lipe Ruthy 23 F Helton Elizabeth 12 F (could be my G2xgrandmother)??? " Charles 1 M 268 253 Helton Pleasant 38 M " Elizabeth 36 F " Thomas 13 M *13th cav. Tenn with Sizemore and Lype " Mary 11 F " George 5 M " Sallie 3 F " Cornelia 1 F " Pleasant 14 M 269 254 Bryant Louis 36 F " Winnie 38 F " Lethyall 8 F " Catherine 4 F " William 1 M " John 7 M 270 255 Wright David 52 M " Jane 54 F " David 14 M 271 256 Barton William 33 F (My Burton family, Not Barton) " Melissa 34 F " James 14 M " Mary 12 F " William 11 M " John 9 M (My 2xgreatgrandfather who married Elizabeth Lype) Barton Rufus 6 M 272 Unoccupied 273 257 Gordman Adam 50 M ================