This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IMi.2ACEB/1143.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Jo Ann Promised I would get back to you as soon as I gathered up my info. Still gathering but will give you a bit now. My father was Claude Allen Howard born in Harlan County deaf and went to the Kentucky school for the Deaf. My grandparents were Benjamin Franklin Howard and Orpha Helton. My greatgrand parents were Elhanan Howard and Jane Alifair Howard. Elhanan died Jan 20, 1908 at the age of 48 of spinal menengtis and Jane married a Johnson and died June 7 1957 in Indiana. Jane's parents were Larkin Howard and Nancy Helton. I had Elhanan traced through one line and now find that is wrong. I am now not sure who Elhanan's parents were but now am leaning toward Benjamin Howard and Lucy Wilson. I trace the Howard's back to Thomas Howard Lettie Durham and the Heltons to Shadrick Helton and Mary "Polly" Brock. I am a descendent of Thomas Howard through several of his children including Rebecca Howard, John and Benjamin. Okay Shadrick Helton and Mary "Polly" Brock had a son Elisha brother to Elijah who married Juley Ann (Julie) Jackson Elisha and Juley had Nancy Helton who married Larkin Howard (see above for the rest of the story) they also had a son John who married Matilda Green and they had a son Elish Helton who married Louisa (Lootie) Jennings and they had my grandmother Orpha Helton. Elish Helton died of Typhoid Fever when my grandmother was around 4 years old and Lottie married a Colt Blanton and they had several children. Now John and Matilda also had a daughter Juli A. who married Stokley Helton. Stokley and Juli had children Alice, John, Louise, Josephine and Elijah. I received papers from the Kentucky School for the Deaf that states that Alice,John, Louise, Josephine attended school and were deaf. They also sent me information on a Samual Helton parents Willey and Nancy Johnson Helton. Samual attended the Deaf school and his father was suppose to be an uneducated deafmute and that said Samual was a nephew to Alice Louise, John, and Josephine. Jo Ann once you have digested this I hope to hear from you my e-mail is wvpratt1@verizon.net I figure it will be eaiser to keep in touch through e-mails where I can scan family group and pedigree charts and e-mail to you. I know this is long but----. gloria